Typhoon Ioke Thread #2

[ArizonaBay]

wow, I must be getting tired, I read the first line of your reply and thought "uh oh, someone is going to yell at me..." I just now noticed the rest of what you said

[WxGuy1]

LOL - no, I mean ODD.

You mean odd; I'm starting to think fake. I haven't heard anythign about this from anywhere other than this board, and a member by the handle of "LeeJet" was the first to mention it if I recall correctly. I'm not necessarily saying that he made it up, but the his source (the news apparently) may have been in error.

Has anyone else heard this from anywhere other than this board?

LeeJet, on what station did you hear this?

[ArizonaBay]

He heard it on an infrared beam from Pluto

[ArizonaBay]

Just an update... I looked at this map several days ago, and there was a small pink dot for Wake Island, it is no longer there http://www.goes.noaa.gov/guam/GUAMVS.JPG
As you can see some of the tiny islands on the left of the map that are represented by tiny pink dots, but no longer for Wake. This is a CURRENT map - don't know if that means it doesnt exist, or they forgot to use pink Sharpie
Opening page is here
http://www.prh.noaa.gov/satellite.html

[P.K.]

RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TY 0612 IOKE (0612)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 020900UTC 23.8N 157.1E GOOD
MOVE WNW 13KT
PRES 935HPA
MXWD 095KT
50KT 140NM NORTHEAST 95NM SOUTHWEST
30KT 300NM NORTHEAST 200NM SOUTHWEST
FORECAST
24HF 030900UTC 25.4N 151.9E 80NM 70%
MOVE W 12KT
PRES 935HPA
MXWD 095KT
45HF 040600UTC 26.8N 148.9E 150NM 70%
MOVE WNW 10KT
PRES 935HPA
MXWD 095KT
69HF 050600UTC 29.4N 145.1E 220NM 70%
MOVE NW 10KT
PRES 940HPA
MXWD 090KT

[CentralFlGal]

Big Wave News
Red Bull Tai Fu Goes on Amber Alert: Team Readies

Surfersvillage Global Surf News, 30 August, 2006 : - - This is an alert to all concerned that there is a significant typhoon present that may warrant a green light for the big-wave project Tai Fu in the next few days. A green light will mean immediate departure for Japan. All surfers and crew should have their bags packed ready to go in case. To follow the status of the project and see a detailed meteorological report and history go to the Red Bull Tai Fu website .
Source: http://www.globalsurfnews.com/news.asp?Id_news=23612

Project has a green light. Big wave surfers trying to beat Ioke to Japan:

Big Wave News

Red Bull Tai Fu Big-Wave Project Gets Green Light

Surfersvillage Global Surf News, 1 September, 2006 : - - The Red Bull big-wave project Tai Fu is ON. The current typhoon in the area has been deemed appropriate for supplying the correct conditions for sizeable surf in the Wakayama region. All surfers and crew are immediately making their way to Osaka, Japan by quickest means possible.

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About the Red Bull TaiFu
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Source: http://www.globalsurfnews.com/news.asp?Id_news=23666

[CentralFlGal]

Just an update... I looked at this map several days ago, and there was a small pink dot for Wake Island, it is no longer there http://www.goes.noaa.gov/guam/GUAMVS.JPG
As you can see some of the tiny islands on the left of the map that are represented by tiny pink dots, but no longer for Wake. This is a CURRENT map - don't know if that means it doesnt exist, or they forgot to use pink Sharpie
Opening page is here
http://www.prh.noaa.gov/satellite.html

Agitating my dots? (love that commercial)

We'll find out soon how much damage occurred:

Super Typhoon Ioke Destroys Sensors, Planes to Check for Damage
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By Gene Byrd
Sep 2, 2006

Super Typhoon Ioke ripped through Wake Island as advertised and carried such force it knocked out the Island's weather sensors as it lashed the isle with some of the central Pacific's fiercest winds in over a decade.

The National Weather Service says the instruments failed when Ioke hit the island with 78 mile-per-hour winds and 100 mile-per-hour gusts. That was before Ioke's eye passed north of Wake Island.

***

AP is reporting that now the Air Force plans to fly planes over Wake Island after Typhoon Ioke passes, to see how much damage the storm inflicted on the mid-Pacific U.S. military refueling outpost.

Visual reconnaissance planes will head out after Ioke clears, said Maj. Clare Reed, spokeswoman for the 15th Airlift Wing at Hickam Air Force Base.

***

"We're hoping everything turns out well," Reed said. But she said senior Air Force officers would decide what to do with the facility if Ioke causes so much destruction that troops and workers couldn't return immediately.

Forecasters predicted the storm would submerge the two-and-a-half-square-mile atoll and 'destroy everything' on the island that isn't concrete.

National Weather Service lead forecaster Jeff Powell called it "a monster storm."

The small island some 2,300 miles west of Honolulu, Hawaii, was expected to be severely damaged by the giant Category 5 typhoon and the assessment will be unknown now until the reconnaissance planes are able to make their trip.

"This thing is so strong that it's just going to clean things out, unfortunately," said Tim Craig, National Weather Service lead forecaster in Honolulu.

***

Forecasts called for the storm to head northwest toward Japan over the open ocean after it passes over Wake Island.

It is likely to gradually lose some of its power in coming days. No populated islands lie in Ioke's immediate path.

Source: http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/pu ... 8132.shtml

[HenkL]

The ECMWF model shows Ioke making a sharp clockwise turn just east of Japan. For days now, this model is consistent about that turn. The remnant low will then be heading towards Alaska.

[CentralFlGal]

Just curious, I know this was from many posts-ago, but didnt anyone else find it "odd" that the following story is found all over the web, but without the paragraph regarding the french meteorologist and that the Associated Press used the term "Pro Met"?????? Funny, I only see that term used in chat rooms like this, not in Associated Press stories. And why is there no other information on the web when you type in this "french meteorologist's" name, or for that matter, try googling anything about someone staying on Wake Island during this storm, and the only match was for this particular post ........ very odd..........

I've been watching & posting news stories (whenever possible) since prior to the Wake hit, and I have yet to see where someone stayed on the island atoll after the DoD contractors had been evacuated.

There's been no mention of a French meteorologist anywhere other than in this thread.

[CentralFlGal]

Here's our answer:

Posted on: Saturday, September 2, 2006
Typhoon evacuees on O'ahu 'vacation'


By David Waite
Advertiser Staff Writer



Almost 190 accidental tourists from Wake Island are hanging loose at an airport hotel awaiting word on how soon they might be able to return to their storm-ravaged Western Pacific atoll.

They arrived here Monday on an Air Force cargo plane, well before Typhoon Ioke had a chance to deliver a smackdown on their tiny island.

A short meeting yesterday after breakfast at the Best Western Airport Hotel dealt mostly with the logistics of relocating 188 evacuees, most of them from Thailand, on short notice, and not being able to say how soon they can be sent back to Wake Island.

A Coast Guard C-130 was scheduled to do a low-level fly-over yesterday to get the first look at the storm damage, said Air Force Capt. Nate Harris, the highest-ranking military officer stationed on Wake.

He expected to receive the first report last night on the extent of damage.

"The planning is still in the works, but the next step might be to send a ship, possibly from Kwajalein, to land a survey team to get a firsthand look, if possible," Harris said.

No one was left behind on Wake, and landing a plane on the island's runway was deemed too risky without someone on the ground to check the extent of the storm damage, Harris said.

Kwajalein, the nearest inhabited island, is about 600 miles away.

Harris, a logistics readiness officer, supervises a crew of four enlisted personnel on Wake, which served a strategic role in World War II and is used today almost solely as a refueling stop for trans-Pacific military flights.

An average of about six flights a week stop on the island and help to break the monotony, said Harris, a native of Maine who has been in the Air Force for about eight years and who put in for a remote-duty station. He arrived on Wake Island about six weeks ago while his wife stayed behind in Pennsylvania.

Harris stood out yesterday in his Air Force battle dress uniform at the front of a hotel meeting room, ringed mostly by Thai contract workers.

Most of them wore shorts and T-shirts, a few of which appeared to be newly purchased from tourist shops here.

Harris said the evacuees' rooms and meals are being paid for, each gets $20 a day and all remain on the payroll — at least for now — of the private company that recruited them to work on Wake.

Island fire department Capt. Sawengsak Dejalerd served as an interpreter at the morning meeting.

Afterward, he said the unexpected vacation cuts both ways.

"It's nice to be in Hawai'i — it's the ideal place to be," Dejalerd said. "But still, we worry about our working place and what's going to happen to us."

He said much will depend on the extent of the damage.

Dejalerd said he has talked to his family in Thailand, as have most of his co-workers, to tell them everything is OK.

Outings are being organized for the Wake workers, who planned to visit Pearl Harbor yesterday and maybe hit the stores at Pearlridge Center later. A trip to Waikiki Beach was also on the itinerary.

As of 11 a.m. yesterday morning, the center of Typhoon Ioke was about 400 miles northwest of Wake Island, with sustained winds of 135 mph and gusts up to 160 mph, said Sam Houston, a hurricane specialist at the Central Pacific Hurricane Center in Manoa.

Some of the storm's outer bands were still raking across the island, meaning it was probably being pelted by strong winds and heavy rains, he said.

Houston said the storm is moving west-northwest at about 16 mph.

If it continues at the same speed and on the same general track, it will be just southeast of Tokyo by Wednesday, Houston said, adding that there are many variables that could affect Ioke's intensity and direction by then.

Reach David Waite at dwaite@honoluluadvertiser.com.
Source: http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060902/NEWS12/609020318/1023/NEWS

[bostonseminole]

The ECMWF model shows Ioke making a sharp clockwise turn just east of Japan. For days now, this model is consistent about that turn. The remnant low will then be heading towards Alaska.

I am nt sure the ECMWF is the choice model but there is not question there will be a turn northward, it just depends when.. at this point I think the turn will happen about 50-100 miles of the coast of Japan.. maybe closer it all depends when it starts that NW turn . around Tuesday

[Jim Cantore]

Lookslike he's about to hit another small island, which island is it?

[LeeJet]

LOL - no, I mean ODD.

You mean odd; I'm starting to think fake. I haven't heard anythign about this from anywhere other than this board, and a member by the handle of "LeeJet" was the first to mention it if I recall correctly. I'm not necessarily saying that he made it up, but the his source (the news apparently) may have been in error.

Has anyone else heard this from anywhere other than this board?

LeeJet, on what station did you hear this?

Fox News

[vbhoutex]

LOL - no, I mean ODD.

You mean odd; I'm starting to think fake. I haven't heard anythign about this from anywhere other than this board, and a member by the handle of "LeeJet" was the first to mention it if I recall correctly. I'm not necessarily saying that he made it up, but the his source (the news apparently) may have been in error.

Has anyone else heard this from anywhere other than this board?

LeeJet, on what station did you hear this?

Fox News

Find A link and prove it with that link. We take the posting of false information on this site VERY SERIOUSLY!!!

[HenkL]

Lookslike he's about to hit another small island, which island is it?

Perhaps you mean Minami-Tori-Shima at 24°18'N 153°58'E ?
See Wikipedia.

[AZRainman]

Find A link and prove it with that link. We take the posting of false information on this site VERY SERIOUSLY!!!

I would say that story about an old met being left behind is pure fraud.

Typhoon evacuees on O'ahu 'vacation' -Honolulu Advertiser
No one was left behind on Wake, and landing a plane on the island's runway was deemed too risky without someone on the ground to check the extent of the storm damage, Harris said.

A Coast Guard C-130 was scheduled to do a low-level fly-over yesterday to get the first look at the storm damage, said Air Force Capt. Nate Harris, the highest-ranking military officer stationed on Wake.

[wc is my initials]

Look at that big eye

http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/jtwc/satshots/wp0106sair.jpg

[HurricaneHunter914]

Looks more like a mouth to me.

[Stratosphere747]

Also if LeeJet "heard" it on Fox news, why did he provide a post being credited to an AP story?

This person needs to come clean, or provide a better explanation.....

[wxmann_91]

ERC's nearly done

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... splay.html