Steve Irwin dead

[Jim Cantore]

He may have seemed crazy, but he had a passion that few could understand.

[Johno8080]

John, I think she will stay so that her kids can grow up there at the zoo and possibly take over the business when they are adults. I wonder if his young son will be like he was. I just can't imagine what Terri, the kids, Steve's father, and of course, his best mate Wes, are going through right now.

Yeah your right! im sure she would never leave! infact she would probly be more determined to stay and help out more.....through the park!

[LaPlaceFF]

To our members in Austrailia, please let us know what is happening and know our prayers are with you and Steve and his family.

[artist]

I am wondering if he didn't kill himself, accidently of course, by removing the barb, since it had indeed struck his heart. If he had left it in and sought medical help immediately, could he have survived? Obviously, he must not have realized it penetrated his heart, though. It is so terribly sad.

[JonathanBelles]

I am wondering if he didn't kill himself, accidently of course, by removing the barb, since it had indeed struck his heart. If he had left it in and sought medical help immediately, could he have survived? Obviously, he must not have realized it penetrated his heart, though. It is so terribly sad.

thats my thought because when my neghbor got hit with a barb the hospital didnt pull the barb from his leg until 3 hours after he arrived.

[tropicana]

FUNERAL PLANS TO BE FINALISED ON WEDNESDAY

Wed Sep 6 2006
630am

Brisbane AUS

Funeral arrangements to farewell Crocodile Hunter Steve Irwin are expected to be finalised today, Wednesday.
As tributes continued to pour in from around the world, his body was returned on a charter flight Tuesday night to the Sunshine Coast hinterland, where the Irwin family owns and lives at Australia Zoo.

But there was no sign of Mr Irwin's American-born wife Terri, who was trekking in Tasmania when her husband died.
Mrs Irwin was believed to have already returned to the zoo with the couple's two children Bindi, eight, and Bob, two.

Queensland Premier Peter Beattie has said Mr Irwin may be honoured by naming a national park after him.
Mr Beattie has also offered a state funeral and said the Irwin family was expected to decide today whether or not they would accept the offer.

Mr Irwin's close friend John Stainton, who accompanied the body on the charter flight from Cairns, said a state funeral would be a fitting tribute to Mr Irwin's contributions to Queensland and Australia.
Queensland's coroner has yet to rule out an inquest into Mr Irwin's death.

[brunota2003]

I am wondering if he didn't kill himself, accidently of course, by removing the barb, since it had indeed struck his heart. If he had left it in and sought medical help immediately, could he have survived? Obviously, he must not have realized it penetrated his heart, though. It is so terribly sad.

thats my thought because when my neghbor got hit with a barb the hospital didnt pull the barb from his leg until 3 hours after he arrived.

thats what I was wondering since last night...my dad said that when he was a kid, a person he knew got stabbed in the heart by an ice pick, now mind that an ice pick and stingray barbs are completely different, however the principle should be the same. The individual did not pull the ice pick out, he got to a hospital and they surgically removed the pick. The docters said that had he removed the pick, his heart would of basically exploded due to the pressure of the blood on the hole. My thinking is that something similar happend to Irwin when he removed the barb, if he was still alive...not to mention the barb goes in clean, but if you rip it out then it tears the skin up...regardless of what exactly happend...it is a very sad turn of events and my prayers go out, once again, to his family.

[vbhoutex]

That is exactly what they are saying now. It makes sense too unfortunately. Question I have though is if he had left it in would the toxins have killed him anyway since it was stuck in his heart?

[tropicana]

Probably yeah. But I think it would be natural reaction if you get stuck with anything into your body, and the pain gets to your brain, first reaction would be to pull it out becuase at that very moment, you won't think of not pulling it out or getting it out of your body.

Its still sad

[Lindaloo]

That is exactly what they are saying now. It makes sense too unfortunately. Question I have though is if he had left it in would the toxins have killed him anyway since it was stuck in his heart?

I was thinking the same thing. I also believe the toxins would have killed him, regardless. The puncture was a hole in the heart. Now, I do not even pretend to know what that means, but a hole in the heart, plus adding toxins to be pumped through the arteries probably went straight to his brain. I forgot what those two arteries are called in your neck. But, they are a MAJOR carrier of oxygen to the brain.

If any of you have ever felt scuba diving gear then you know it is thick. Makes me wonder why he was not better protected. That is my question.

[george_r_1961]

That is exactly what they are saying now. It makes sense too unfortunately. Question I have though is if he had left it in would the toxins have killed him anyway since it was stuck in his heart?

I was thinking the same thing. I also believe the toxins would have killed him, regardless. The puncture was a hole in the heart. Now, I do not even pretend to know what that means, but a hole in the heart, plus adding toxins to be pumped through the arteries probably went straight to his brain. I forgot what those two arteries are called in your neck. But, they are a MAJOR carrier of oxygen to the brain.

If any of you have ever felt scuba diving gear then you know it is thick. Makes me wonder why he was not better protected. That is my question.

Carotid arteries. And yes u are right about them being the major..well really the only, carrier of oxgenated blood to the brain.

[stormtruth]

There's actually conflicting information on the pulling out the barb news. In a later interview Steve's manager says he never even saw the tape and couldn't bear to watch it. That might put some of the quotes that say the manager saw Steve pulled out the barb in question. Hard to say where the truth lies sometimes especially while everyone close to him is still in a heightened emotional state.

There are some very moving quotes from Irwin's father today.

"He certainly did die doing something he loved doing, and that's a lot better than getting hit by a bus, but there's no comfort at this stage in anything at all.

"I [recently] spent three or four weeks with Steve and Terri and the children and Steve was probably the best I'd seen him for many years in his own personal attitude and he was peaceful and he was not under stress and he was doing something that he really loved doing.

At least his Dad got some quality time with him before the end!

More here

[AussieMark]

this is absolutely disgraceful


Feminist Greer slams Steve's antics

AS glowing tributes and praise for Steve Irwin filled newspapers and television screens around the world, fellow Australian Germaine Greer launched a distasteful tirade on the much-loved Crocodile Hunter yesterday.

Most London papers carried sympathetic news articles, features, columns and obituaries mirroring the disbelief felt in Australia.

But Greer launched a scathing attack on Irwin, declaring "the animal world has finally taken its revenge".

In her column in The Guardian newspaper, Greer said the wildlife warrior displayed the "sort of self-delusion it takes to be a real Aussie larrikin".

"There was no habitat, no matter how fragile or finely balanced, that Irwin hesitated to barge into," she wrote. "Every creature he brandished at the camera was in distress."

"The animal world has finally taken its revenge, but probably not before a whole generation of kids in shorts seven sizes too small has learned to shout in the ears of animals with hearing 10 times more acute than theirs, determined to become millionaire animal-loving zoo owners in their turn."

London's The Daily Telegraph dubbed Irwin "a bloody good bloke" and likened him to Bob Geldof for pledging his own money to save endangered creatures.

The Sun gave half its front page to a photo of Irwin and quoted British botanist David Bellamy saying: "I had a good cry when I heard the terrible news. Why did it happen to such an important and talented guy?"

Even the staid Financial Times ran an obituary, noting Irwin's "accessible approach marked a distinct break from the more didactic style of earlier generations of nature presenters".

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20 ... 02,00.html

Read the whole Column referenced here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/sto ... 24,00.html

[Miss Mary]

this is absolutely disgraceful


Feminist Greer slams Steve's antics

AS glowing tributes and praise for Steve Irwin filled newspapers and television screens around the world, fellow Australian Germaine Greer launched a distasteful tirade on the much-loved Crocodile Hunter yesterday.

Most London papers carried sympathetic news articles, features, columns and obituaries mirroring the disbelief felt in Australia.

But Greer launched a scathing attack on Irwin, declaring "the animal world has finally taken its revenge".

In her column in The Guardian newspaper, Greer said the wildlife warrior displayed the "sort of self-delusion it takes to be a real Aussie larrikin".

"There was no habitat, no matter how fragile or finely balanced, that Irwin hesitated to barge into," she wrote. "Every creature he brandished at the camera was in distress."

"The animal world has finally taken its revenge, but probably not before a whole generation of kids in shorts seven sizes too small has learned to shout in the ears of animals with hearing 10 times more acute than theirs, determined to become millionaire animal-loving zoo owners in their turn."

London's The Daily Telegraph dubbed Irwin "a bloody good bloke" and likened him to Bob Geldof for pledging his own money to save endangered creatures.

The Sun gave half its front page to a photo of Irwin and quoted British botanist David Bellamy saying: "I had a good cry when I heard the terrible news. Why did it happen to such an important and talented guy?"

Even the staid Financial Times ran an obituary, noting Irwin's "accessible approach marked a distinct break from the more didactic style of earlier generations of nature presenters".

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20 ... 02,00.html

Read the whole Column referenced here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/sto ... 24,00.html

How this woman feels is precisely why I haven't responded on this thread. First off, I am sorry he died so violently and so young, leaving behind a wife and 2 young children, not to mention scores of fans. So RIP Mr. Irwin. But I never supported his approach to observing wildlife. I much prefer watching it from afar - or not at all - leaving wildlife alone. As I believe it should be.

Let the attacks on my post begin, I don't mind. I stand firm on this opinion and don't even get me started on the circus.

Mary

[Jim Cantore]

Steve always said when he goes he wants to be remembered for Passion, enthusasum, and conservation. Thats how I'll always remember him, for his passion and not for the sometimes crazy things he did. A great human being has been lost in a very unexpected way to say the least.

Rest in peace Steve, I'll miss the fire and passion you brought. you gave me my love for nature.

[Lindaloo]

Well that lady certainly has a right to her opinion. But, now was not the time and speaks volumes about her character! Steve did alot of good and helped us understand the wild. It is not like he was out there capturing or wounding wildlife. Heck, he would even go after poachers. Guess that lady did not see what they would do to elephants and gorillas? She should save her energy and direct it towards something more positive, like he did. Watching from afar is exactly the approach the illegal game killers want, but not Steve! RIP Steve!

Someone has to step in to protect our wildlife. We can't sit idly by and watch this happen.

[kevin]

I agree with Lindaloo on this. If other less honorable people weren't taking such a hands on approach, then there wouldn't be a need for the kind of engagement he was doing with wildlife. But if people can come to respect and admire wildlife, then there is a chance that the degredation of our biosphere may diminish.

[sunny]

Someone has to step in to protect our wildlife. We can't sit idly by and watch this happen.

Very true!

The way it sounds, Steve was admired and respected by a lot of people, especially the people of Australia.

[HurricaneBill]

this is absolutely disgraceful


Feminist Greer slams Steve's antics

Apparently she thinks his mourners are idiots.

But don't worry, Australia has pretty much slammed her right back.



http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20366907-662,00.html

What a wretched woman.

[Jim Cantore]

Disgusting, if she ever watched his show she'd have a completely diffrent opinion. Steve was a man of passion, and he will be missed.

And through all his work with animals, he always found time for his family.