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#301 Postby wxman57 » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:51 pm

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I wouldn't attack JB and accuse him of -removed- when nearly everyone this year who has made a forecast on a storm this year has busted at some point.

And as for your track, I agree but you recurve this too soon imo as it is not heading NW right now like you indicate.


I watch Joe's video and read his blog every day. He's extremely biased toward hits where he forecast in the pre-season. I remember 3-4 years ago he tried to take TS Larry in the southern BoC northeast and up the east U.S. Coast. Larry just moved inland into Mexico. I"ve seen that kind of bias over and over through the years.

Sometimes you have to really listen to what he's saying. Often, he's not actually forecasting such a track to occur, just mentioning that there may be a slim chance of it happening. Once it develops, take a look at where AccuWeather forecasts it to track. See if they drive it west to the Bahamas or recurve it.

I do agree with Joe that an east coast hit by a Cat 2-3 is quite likely over the next 3-4 weeks. But it won't be TD 7.
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#302 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:53 pm

I think this will have a hard time developing for a while. It faces the same problems Florence did.
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#303 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:53 pm

I guess we should all just stop hypothesizing where this might go. It doesn't hurt for other members to talk about other scenario's, eventhough they may not be correct.
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#304 Postby Normandy » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:54 pm

^ I thought Accuweather's track and JB's thoughts of where it goes are not related
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#305 Postby caribepr » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:54 pm

North is good! South / west is bad! That's my story and I'm sticking to it (along with a few thousand other people around here). 8-)
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#306 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:57 pm

Dissipation is best...and that is what I am predicting. It will have a hard time taking the name Gordon.
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#307 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:59 pm

This has nothing what Florenece has.

1# Shear 5-8 knots over this system, with 30 knot decreases.
2# Upper low moving away which should form outflow jet on the northwestern side.
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#308 Postby wxman57 » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:01 pm

Normandy wrote:^ I thought Accuweather's track and JB's thoughts of where it goes are not related


Thet's strange, as he's their main tropical "guru". Why wouldn't they use his track instead of paying any attention to the NHC track (assuming NHC recurves it)?

Ok, enough about Joe. I do like the man and I enjoy his discussions.
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#309 Postby caribepr » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:02 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Dissipation is best...and that is what I am predicting. It will have a hard time taking the name Gordon.


Yep..you win, dissipation would absolutely be best. I hate the name Gordon (been there, done that, Fla east side).
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#310 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:04 pm

This has a .00001 percent chance of hitting PR. In has about a 95 percent chance of recurving.
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#311 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:05 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Normandy wrote:^ I thought Accuweather's track and JB's thoughts of where it goes are not related


Thet's strange, as he's their main tropical "guru". Why wouldn't they use his track instead of paying any attention to the NHC track (assuming NHC recurves it)?

Ok, enough about Joe. I do like the man and I enjoy his discussions.
i've noticed they usually are somewhere in between the two. They are rarely ever exactly with Joe or exactly with the NHC (unless both are predicting the same thing). One example is when JB was calling Ernesto a TX storm..Accuweather's forecast had it hitting SW Louisiana.
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#312 Postby caribepr » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:06 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:This has a .00001 percent chance of hitting PR. In has about a 95 percent chance of recurving.


Actually I wasn't thinking about it *hitting* PR, just getting a huge rain event is a bad thing for all of us. But I like your odds :)
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#313 Postby SWFLA_CANE » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:07 pm

Even bigger news then td7 Giants just scored a touchdown
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#314 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:07 pm

Tropical Depression 7 could be developing right now. It could become Gordon.
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#315 Postby Normandy » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:07 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Normandy wrote:^ I thought Accuweather's track and JB's thoughts of where it goes are not related


Thet's strange, as he's their main tropical "guru". Why wouldn't they use his track instead of paying any attention to the NHC track (assuming NHC recurves it)?

Ok, enough about Joe. I do like the man and I enjoy his discussions.


I thought their official track is a consensus of many mets at Accuweather rather than solely being Joe's thoughts alone, but I could be wrong.
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#316 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:12 pm

Normandy wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
Normandy wrote:^ I thought Accuweather's track and JB's thoughts of where it goes are not related


Thet's strange, as he's their main tropical "guru". Why wouldn't they use his track instead of paying any attention to the NHC track (assuming NHC recurves it)?

Ok, enough about Joe. I do like the man and I enjoy his discussions.


I thought their official track is a consensus of many mets at Accuweather rather than solely being Joe's thoughts alone, but I could be wrong.
yes, that is probably what they do. That consensus usually is somewhere in between the NHC and JB forecast though...with it occassionally more one-sided.
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#317 Postby GeneratorPower » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:16 pm

Grease Monkey wrote:*starts marinating the crow just in case*.


Crow Teryaki or Barbecue Crow.
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#318 Postby brunota2003 » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:22 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:
Grease Monkey wrote:*starts marinating the crow just in case*.


Crow Teryaki or Barbecue Crow.
wait...I thought the Crow were driven into extinction after Ernesto and we had to start handing out mosquito instead (since there seem to be plenty of them now with no chance of going extinct...:lol:) I for one will wait to see what recon finds tomorrow before jumping onto any bandwagon...
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#319 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:25 pm

But some mosquito have proven to kill you. So be very careful forecasting. :eek:
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#320 Postby abajan » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:26 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:I think this will have a hard time developing for a while. It faces the same problems Florence did.

Actually, if satellite presentation is anything to go by, TD7 is a very healthy looking system.

A 5:00 AM upgrade to TS Gordon is very likely, IMO.
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