"FREEZE Warning!" Seems a little early BUT......

azsnowman · #1 Postby **azsnowman** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:13 am

DANG

....seems a *little* early but what the heck, could this be a sign of things to come this winter? :wink:

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/fgz

FREEZE WARNING

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FLAGSTAFF AZ
420 AM MST SAT SEP 16 2006

AZZ004-006-011-015>017-039-161930-
/O.NEW.KFGZ.FZ.W.0001.060917T0700Z-060917T1500Z/
KAIBAB PLATEAU-GRAND CANYON COUNTRY-
CHUSKA MOUNTAINS AND DEFIANCE PLATEAU-WESTERN MOGOLLON RIM-
EASTERN MOGOLLON RIM-WHITE MOUNTAINS-BLACK MESA AREA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...JACOB LAKE...FREDONIA..
GRAND CANYON VILLAGE...SUPAI...NORTH RIM...WINDOW ROCK...GANADO..
FLAGSTAFF...WILLIAMS...MUNDS PARK...HEBER...HAPPY JACK..
FOREST LAKES...SHOW LOW...GREER...PINETOP...NAVAJO N.M.
420 AM MST SAT SEP 16 2006

...FREEZE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 8 AM MST
SUNDAY..

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN FLAGSTAFF HAS ISSUED A FREEZE
WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 8 AM MST
SUNDAY.

VERY DRY AIR OVER NORTHERN ARIZONA...COUPLED WITH DECREASING WINDS
OVERNIGHT...WILL ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO FALL TO NEAR OR BELOW
FREEZING ON SUNDAY MORNING FOR ELEVATIONS ABOVE 6500 FEET.

A FREEZE WARNING MEANS SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES ARE HIGHLY LIKELY.
THESE CONDITIONS CAN DAMAGE OR KILL SENSITIVE VEGETATION.

bob rulz · #2 Postby **bob rulz** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:22 am

There's a freeze watch in effect for here, too. It's DEFINITELY early for that here.

But that's okay, I'll take it. 8-)

azsnowman · #3 Postby **azsnowman** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:27 am

bob rulz wrote:There's a freeze watch in effect for here, too. It's DEFINITELY early for that here.

But that's okay, I'll take it. 8-)

You BETCHA....*let's see what happens come late Feb. early March when we are SICK of the cold and SNOW!* "LOL!" :lol:

Extremeweatherguy · #4 Postby **Extremeweatherguy** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:17 pm

these early freezes, and strong cold fronts lead me to believe this winter may be particularly cold and stormy nationwide.

bob rulz · #5 Postby **bob rulz** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:48 pm

Freeze watch here has been upgraded to a freeze warning.

[QUOTE=extremeweatherguy]these early freezes, and strong cold fronts lead me to believe this winter may be particularly cold and stormy nationwide.[/QUOTE]

I hope so. I'm sick of these warm, dry winters. :grr:

azsnowman · #6 Postby **azsnowman** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:33 am

A BALMY 28.4° at 0634 this morning :eek:

, heavy frost (white roof tops and white grass) was the rule of thumb! :ggreen:

bob rulz · #7 Postby **bob rulz** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:41 pm

Well, it didn't bust for you. We had a freeze warning, and mostly cloudy conditions throughout the night kept the low way up at 43. It might have been colder here, but still not freezing-level.

azsnowman · #8 Postby **azsnowman** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:23 pm

Tonight bobrulz, tonight....keep the faith brother :ggreen:

It's supposed to even COLDER tonight, could possibly hit the LOW 20's :eek:

Scott Patterson · #9 Postby **Scott Patterson** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:22 pm

We had our first official frost on September 2. In 2005 it was on August 31 and in 2004 it was on August 28, so a bit later this year.

bob rulz · #10 Postby **bob rulz** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:35 pm

azsnowman wrote:Tonight bobrulz, tonight....keep the faith brother

It's supposed to even COLDER tonight, could possibly hit the LOW 20's

It's supposed to be colder here, as well, but that's ONLY because of the cloud cover last night. Most of the mountain valleys got into the 20s this morning. The temperature is supposed to be in the upper 30s for tonight; no freeze warning in effect any more.

azsnowman · #11 Postby **azsnowman** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:51 am

Bottomed out at 29.1° a few minutes ago....not as cold as night before but still CHILLY :ggreen:

Not as much frost either, RH% values are down and so is the DP°

bob rulz · #12 Postby **bob rulz** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:20 pm

Got down to 41 degrees this morning, at least at the airport. There was some frost on the ground when I went to school. I don't know if there was frost yesterday morning, since I wasn't up that early, but up here I will count September 18 as the first frost of the season. That's quite a bit earlier than normal.

#13 Postby **vbhoutex** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:44 am

Extremeweatherguy wrote:these early freezes, and strong cold fronts lead me to believe this winter may be particularly cold and stormy nationwide.

Not sure about nationwide, but with an El Nino coming we can expect stormier and cooler in the south.

Scott Patterson · #14 Postby **Scott Patterson** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:03 pm

these early freezes, and strong cold fronts lead me to believe this winter may be particularly cold and stormy nationwide.

Maybe, but don't bet your life savings on it. :wink:

One of our earliest "big" snowstorms in the mountains in the area was in September 9-10 2001. It got everyone excited and several feet fell in the mountains. Ski resorts began to fire up the snowmakers. The winter of 2001-2002 turned out to be one of the driest winters on record for parts of Colorado, and extreme drought conditions were in place by April. Even in January, some above timerline mountains in parts of CO were snow free, something that has never happened in recorded history.

For the sake of the drought, I hope you are right, but I won't bet much money on it.

azsnowman · #15 Postby **azsnowman** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:56 pm

vbhoutex wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:these early freezes, and strong cold fronts lead me to believe this winter may be particularly cold and stormy nationwide.

Not sure about nationwide, but with an El Nino coming we can expect stormier and cooler in the south.

Let's pray they're right Brother....we need a wet and extremely COLD winter (to kill off bugs that have invaded this area over the past 10 years of the Exceptional Drought!)

"FREEZE Warning!" Seems a little early BUT......

"FREEZE Warning!" Seems a little early BUT......

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