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WPAC - Tropical Storm Bebinca

#1 Postby TheEuropean » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:46 am

On JTWC site it's TD 19W:

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This may become the next Typhoon.
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#2 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:49 am

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#3 Postby WindRunner » Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:47 pm

The JTWC are strengthening this very rapidly - to a typhoon in 36h and at 85kts in 72h, during which it turns to a due north heading. That'll put it in prime waters for more intensification as it heads up towards/near Japan. Nothing more than a TD without advisories from JMA.

WWJP25 RJTD 011200
WARNING AND SUMMARY 011200.
WARNING VALID 021200.
WARNING IS UPDATED EVERY 6 HOURS.
GALE WARNING.
DEVELOPING LOW 1012 HPA
AT 42N 169E FAR OFF EAST OF JAPAN MOVING EAST 40 KNOTS.
WARM FRONT FROM 42N 169E TO 43N 173E 43N 176E.
COLD FRONT FROM 42N 169E TO 40N 166E 39N 163E.
EXPECTED WINDS 30 TO 35 KNOTS WITHIN 300 MILES OF LOW
FOR NEXT 12 HOURS.
WARNING.
DENSE FOG OBSERVED LOCALLY OVER SEA OF OKHOTSK NORTHERN PART OF SEA
OF JAPAN MIDDLE OF SEA OF JAPAN.
WARNING.
DENSE FOG OBSERVED LOCALLY OVER WATERS BOUNDED BY 41N 142E 46N 151E
56N 163E 53N 180E 42N 180E 36N 160E 37N 148E 41N 142E.
SUMMARY.
LOW 1002 HPA AT 54N 166E SOUTH 10 KT.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 998 HPA AT 14N 133E WEST SLOWLY.
LOW PRESSURE AREA 1002 HPA NEAR 15N 149E WNW SLOWLY.
HIGH 1020 HPA AT 41N 132E ALMOST STATIONARY.
HIGH 1024 HPA AT 42N 149E EAST 15 KT.
STATIONARY FRONT FROM 27N 126E TO 30N 132E 32N 135E 33N 140E 35N 150E
39N 163E.
STATIONARY FRONT FROM 43N 176E TO 42N 180E 42N 175W.
REMARKS.
SEVERE TROPICAL STORM 0615 XANGSANE (0615) 980 HPA AT 15.4N 106.4E :
SEE TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING.

JAPAN METEOROLOGICAL AGENCY.=
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#4 Postby P.K. » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:10 pm

Just to note they have had this as a TD since 1200 GMT on the 28th Sept in which time it has dropped 6hPa.
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#5 Postby P.K. » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:32 pm

RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TD
ANALYSIS
PSTN 011800UTC 14.7N 130.6E POOR
MOVE WNW 10KT
PRES 998HPA
MXWD 030KT
FORECAST
24HF 021800UTC 16.0N 131.5E 150NM 70%
MOVE NNE SLOWLY
PRES 992HPA
MXWD 035KT =
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#6 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:59 pm

Well... the NRL site's not updating and the FNMOC site is down. Floaters aren't going to be moved, of course.

Also, the NOGAPS model hasn't been working either. What's going on??

One huge complicating factor for intensity is the area of storms to the east. Many models have developed 19W w/ the exception of the useless CMC, but they disagree on the evolution of the second system to the east. Some indiate a binary/fujiwhara interaction where both aren't going to develop much, some indicate this will become the dominant system. Just some food for thought.

EDIT: just looked at the 12Z models and nearly all the models develop both systems quite robustly. ECMWF paints a very queer situation as 19W doesn't get picked up and instead is trapped in a COL area between two areas of high pressure.
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#7 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:04 pm

New forecast isn't as bullish as the JTWC forecasters have just realized that the UL anticyclone over Guam is going to shear this system quite vigorously through the first 36-48 hours. However I believe that if there is little negative storm interaction after that this could develop quite robustly.
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#8 Postby P.K. » Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:40 pm

RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TD
ANALYSIS
PSTN 012100UTC 14.9N 130.2E POOR
MOVE WNW 10KT
PRES 998HPA
MXWD 030KT
FORECAST
24HF 022100UTC 16.2N 131.5E 150NM 70%
MOVE NNE SLOWLY
PRES 992HPA
MXWD 035KT =
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#9 Postby Coredesat » Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:42 pm

PAGASA has this as TD Neneng now.
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#10 Postby P.K. » Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:16 am

RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TD
ANALYSIS
PSTN 020600UTC 15.3N 130.0E POOR
MOVE ALMOST STATIONARY
PRES 994HPA
MXWD 030KT
FORECAST
24HF 030600UTC 16.5N 129.4E 150NM 70%
MOVE NNW SLOWLY
PRES 990HPA
MXWD 040KT =
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#11 Postby P.K. » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:04 am

RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TD
ANALYSIS
PSTN 021200UTC 15.0N 130.0E POOR
MOVE ALMOST STATIONARY
PRES 994HPA
MXWD 030KT
FORECAST
24HF 031200UTC 16.7N 130.0E 150NM 70%
MOVE N SLOWLY
PRES 990HPA
MXWD 040KT =
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#12 Postby WindRunner » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:01 pm

This is the 15Z advisory, though the 18Z summary still had it as a TD.

RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TD
ANALYSIS
PSTN 021500UTC 15.0N 130.0E POOR
MOVE ALMOST STATIONARY
PRES 994HPA
MXWD 030KT
FORECAST
24HF 031500UTC 17.0N 130.1E 150NM 70%
MOVE N SLOWLY
PRES 990HPA
MXWD 040KT
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#13 Postby P.K. » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:04 pm

Yeah it is a little slow updating, the 2100 advisory is posted below.

RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TD
ANALYSIS
PSTN 022100UTC 14.0N 131.5E POOR
MOVE ALMOST STATIONARY
PRES 994HPA
MXWD 030KT
FORECAST
24HF 032100UTC 16.8N 131.7E 150NM 70%
MOVE N 07KT
PRES 990HPA
MXWD 040KT =
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#14 Postby WindRunner » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:05 pm

Now why can't I see that? :x Oh well . . .
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#15 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:29 pm

T0616 (BEBINCA)
Issued at 00:00 UTC 3 Oct 2006RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TS 0616 BEBINCA (0616) UPGRADED FROM TD

ANALYSIS
PSTN 030000UTC 14.8N 130.7E POOR
MOVE ALMOST STATIONARY
PRES 992HPA
MXWD 035KT
30KT 300NM SOUTHWEST 200NM NORTHEAST

FORECAST
24HF 040000UTC 16.9N 131.6E 100NM 70%
MOVE NNE SLOWLY
PRES 990HPA
MXWD 040KT
48HF 050000UTC 21.5N 134.1E 160NM 70%
MOVE NNE 12KT
PRES 985HPA
MXWD 045KT
72HF 060000UTC 25.8N 137.3E 290NM 70%
MOVE NNE 13KT
PRES 985HPA
MXWD 045KT

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Bebinca is here!!!

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#16 Postby Chacor » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:16 pm

PAGASA differs a lot from the JMA and JTWC tracks over this one, PAGASA has it heading west.

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And JMA 03Z:
WTPQ21 RJTD 030300
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TS 0616 BEBINCA (0616)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 030300UTC 15.1N 130.6E POOR
MOVE NW SLOWLY
PRES 992HPA
MXWD 035KT
30KT 300NM SOUTHWEST 200NM NORTHEAST
FORECAST
24HF 040300UTC 17.3N 131.6E 100NM 70%
MOVE NNE 08KT
PRES 990HPA
MXWD 040KT
45HF 050000UTC 21.5N 134.1E 160NM 70%
MOVE NNE 12KT
PRES 985HPA
MXWD 045KT
69HF 060000UTC 25.8N 137.3E 290NM 70%
MOVE NNE 13KT
PRES 985HPA
MXWD 045KT =
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#17 Postby P.K. » Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:26 am

RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TS 0616 BEBINCA (0616)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 030600UTC 15.9N 130.6E POOR
MOVE NW SLOWLY
PRES 992HPA
MXWD 035KT
30KT 300NM SOUTHWEST 200NM NORTHEAST
FORECAST
24HF 040600UTC 19.7N 132.3E 100NM 70%
MOVE NNE 10KT
PRES 985HPA
MXWD 045KT
48HF 050600UTC 23.3N 134.5E 160NM 70%
MOVE NNE 10KT
PRES 980HPA
MXWD 050KT
72HF 060600UTC 25.3N 136.2E 290NM 70%
MOVE NNE 06KT
PRES 975HPA
MXWD 055KT
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#18 Postby Coredesat » Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:43 am

RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TS 0616 BEBINCA (0616)

ANALYSIS
PSTN 031200UTC 17.2N 131.2E POOR
MOVE NNE 13KT
PRES 992HPA
MXWD 035KT
30KT 350NM SOUTHWEST 220NM NORTHEAST

FORECAST
24HF 041200UTC 20.7N 132.8E 100NM 70%
MOVE NNE 09KT
PRES 985HPA
MXWD 045KT
48HF 051200UTC 23.9N 135.3E 160NM 70%
MOVE NNE 08KT
PRES 975HPA
MXWD 055KT
72HF 061200UTC 24.9N 137.5E 290NM 70%
MOVE ENE SLOWLY
PRES 965HPA
MXWD 060KT
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#19 Postby WindRunner » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:54 pm

This is up to 40kts now, which means that the JMA is higher than the JTWC for both systems in the WPAC right now. JMA's two 40kt TS's beats JTWC's 35kt TS and 15kt TCFA . . . for once.

RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TS 0616 BEBINCA (0616)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 032100UTC 18.8N 131.0E POOR
MOVE N 10KT
PRES 990HPA
MXWD 040KT
30KT 350NM SOUTHWEST 220NM NORTHEAST
FORECAST
24HF 042100UTC 21.7N 133.0E 100NM 70%
MOVE NNE 08KT
PRES 985HPA
MXWD 045KT
45HF 051800UTC 23.7N 135.1E 160NM 70%
MOVE NE 06KT
PRES 975HPA
MXWD 055KT
69HF 061800UTC 24.3N 136.8E 270NM 70%
MOVE ENE SLOWLY
PRES 965HPA
MXWD 060KT
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#20 Postby WindRunner » Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:31 am

Holding steady, though the forecast track is further to the south and slower now.

RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TS 0616 BEBINCA (0616)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 040900UTC 20.0N 131.2E POOR
MOVE NNE 07KT
PRES 990HPA
MXWD 040KT
30KT 325NM
FORECAST
24HF 050900UTC 22.0N 133.8E 100NM 70%
MOVE NE 07KT
PRES 985HPA
MXWD 045KT
45HF 060600UTC 23.4N 135.0E 160NM 70%
MOVE NE SLOWLY
PRES 975HPA
MXWD 055KT
69HF 070600UTC 24.0N 136.4E 270NM 70%
MOVE ENE SLOWLY
PRES 970HPA
MXWD 060KT

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