Cracker Barrel Being Sued for Racism

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#101 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:42 am

Cookiely wrote:
Lindaloo wrote:Cracker Barrel has a policy addressing racism.

Second, I have never met anyone that teaches their children to be racist! BLACK OR WHITE!

This is absolutely not true. Children learn from watching their parents behavior. I have seen first hand things repeated by little children both black and white that made me want to puke. There are also subtle degrees of rascism. Take for instance my papa who I loved dearly. He was raised by his aunt and uncle who were share croppers and living with them was a former slave that had been freed as a child. My father loved this man, but he also had this attitutde that whites were "better" in some ways than blacks. It has to do with pride. When you are as low on the financial and social scale as they were, maybe it made you feel better that there was someone lower on the scale than you. My mother tempered our behavior and allowed us to realize that we didn't have to believe everything my father believed and that he was a good man to emulate and love as well as respect, but also that he was human and had flaws. This is a little off the subject but the cruelest remarks I have ever witnessed didn't have to do with anyones skin color but concerned obesity, and by so called educated intelligent people who would fight to the death for someones civil rights.


I never said it doesn't happen. I said I have never seen it.
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#102 Postby Pburgh » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:45 am

spiced apples - yummy. I like them too.

If everyone screamed and raved indefinitely for every violation of ethics and morality, nothing would ever get done.

gtalum, you hit the nail right on the head. If the race card is continually being played (especially those playing it for the bucks they can get) it makes everyone skeptical of the true motives behind the gripe. It's not that racisim does not exist - it does. Do we have to try to eliminate it? - yes we do. But, as long as there are dishonest black or white people out there trying to get something for nothing, the people who have their nose to the grindstone and work their butt off to make a living will be offended and irritated by these offenders.
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#103 Postby Cookiely » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:55 am

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Lindaloo wrote:Cracker Barrel has a policy addressing racism.

Second, I have never met anyone that teaches their children to be racist! BLACK OR WHITE!

This is absolutely not true. Children learn from watching their parents behavior. I have seen first hand things repeated by little children both black and white that made me want to puke. There are also subtle degrees of rascism. Take for instance my papa who I loved dearly. He was raised by his aunt and uncle who were share croppers and living with them was a former slave that had been freed as a child. My father loved this man, but he also had this attitutde that whites were "better" in some ways than blacks. It has to do with pride. When you are as low on the financial and social scale as they were, maybe it made you feel better that there was someone lower on the scale than you. My mother tempered our behavior and allowed us to realize that we didn't have to believe everything my father believed and that he was a good man to emulate and love as well as respect, but also that he was human and had flaws. This is a little off the subject but the cruelest remarks I have ever witnessed didn't have to do with anyones skin color but concerned obesity, and by so called educated intelligent people who would fight to the death for someones civil rights.


I never said it doesn't happen. I said I have never seen it.

I'm glad you haven't Lindaloo. I wish I was as fortunate.
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#104 Postby Ptarmigan » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:58 am

Cookiely wrote:This is absolutely not true. Children learn from watching their parents behavior. I have seen first hand things repeated by little children both black and white that made me want to puke. There are also subtle degrees of rascism. Take for instance my papa who I loved dearly. He was raised by his aunt and uncle who were share croppers and living with them was a former slave that had been freed as a child. My father loved this man, but he also had this attitutde that whites were "better" in some ways than blacks. It has to do with pride. When you are as low on the financial and social scale as they were, maybe it made you feel better that there was someone lower on the scale than you. My mother tempered our behavior and allowed us to realize that we didn't have to believe everything my father believed and that he was a good man to emulate and love as well as respect, but also that he was human and had flaws. This is a little off the subject but the cruelest remarks I have ever witnessed didn't have to do with anyones skin color but concerned obesity, and by so called educated intelligent people who would fight to the death for someones civil rights.


No one is born racist or prejudiced. It is a learned behavior. Children do what their parents do by seeing. You should watch American History X. The main character in the movie played by Edward Norton and Edward Furlong, who fell into a world of racism and hate. Derek played by Norton learned racist attitudes from his firefighter father Dennis, who was murdered. His father wasn't a blatant racist, unlike Derek, which he slipped into. His younger brother Danny became a racist because of Derek. In the end, Derek and Danny change their racist attitudes.
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#105 Postby Ptarmigan » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:00 am

rainstorm wrote:sharpton may be the biggest racist in the room, so to speak. again, remember tawanna brawley. sharpton should be in prison over that.


Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are bad news. I was too young to remember that Brawley thing, but I have heard and read of it. I wonder if anything like that happened before?
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#106 Postby Ptarmigan » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:03 am

Cookiely wrote:My aunt and I waited at a restaurant for twenty minutes the other day and the restaurant was only half full. I assumed from the wait that they were short handed. The staff certainly had their hands full. I didn't get paranoid because we had to wait to be seated or wait for our food (a long time) or wait for extra condiments (I finally raided another table). Even after all the difficulties, I tipped well because the staff were doing the best they could. Sometimes people jump to conclusions when the reality is far different. If it does turn out they have a policy of racism, then I say throw the book at them and make them pay big time.


I have waited at Cheesecake Factory for 20 minutes. I never complained of it and it is always crowded.
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#107 Postby Ptarmigan » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:08 am

kevin wrote:I am white and had to wait an ungodly amount of time at Cracker Barrel before, and should have sued them for emotional trauma. Any restaurant that traps you in a gift shop, is a threat to my psychological welfare. Horrible part of my childhood. They will have to drag me in before I'll ever go there again.


Never been to a Cracker Barrel. They are usually on the outer limits of metro areas. How is the food like?
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#108 Postby coriolis » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:33 am

Isn't "cracker" a derogotory term for whites, used by blacks?"

I see some irony in this whole situation.
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#109 Postby Pburgh » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:33 am

Great breakfasts, Ptarmigan. Get the spiced apples.
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#110 Postby Kelarie » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:38 am

Wow, I didn't realize because of the colour of my skin that when I didn't get service in a timely manner that I can scream and holler that a particular food establishment is racist. And then I could get money for it. Wow, again. I thought it was just poor service and would never go there again.

Oh and for the people who think that racism only affects the "minorties" in the world, it doesn't. I am a white and it happens. It is a product of the environment people are raised. Does this appear to be a frivolous lawsuit, YES. Should the people who are bringing the suit be punished for wasting the courts time? YES. But it wont happen and it will continue. Is there a solution, yes, but educating people who don't want to change, you can't do.

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#111 Postby Cookiely » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:07 pm

coriolis wrote:Isn't "cracker" a derogotory term for whites, used by blacks?"

I see some irony in this whole situation.

Irony is right. My spanish grandfather used to call my papa cracker and my papa used to call him Gallego (I think it has something to do with being a Gypsy) . It wasn't derogatory between the two of them. Its all in the intent and the way you are using the word. and who is using the word.
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#112 Postby vbhoutex » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:37 pm

Kelarie wrote:Wow, I didn't realize because of the colour of my skin that when I didn't get service in a timely manner that I can scream and holler that a particular food establishment is racist. And then I could get money for it. Wow, again. I thought it was just poor service and would never go there again.

Oh and for the people who think that racism only affects the "minorties" in the world, it doesn't. I am a white and it happens. It is a product of the environment people are raised. Does this appear to be a frivolous lawsuit, YES. Should the people who are bringing the suit be punished for wasting the courts time? YES. But it wont happen and it will continue. Is there a solution, yes, but educating people who don't want to change, you can't do.

My 2 cents.
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#113 Postby chadtm80 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:16 pm

Seems we have gotten all our thoughts out on this issue wouldnt you say?
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