Kids these days!

[kevin]

"Children nowadays are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannize their teachers." - Socrates.

[Derek Ortt]

and they are much worse

Which is why good old fashioned spankings are needed once again. Nothing like a nice leather belt behind an old fashioned woodshed to keep a child in line

[Yarrah]

Which is why good old fashioned spankings are needed once again. Nothing like a nice leather belt behind an old fashioned woodshed to keep a child in line

...I hope you're joking

[Cyclenall]

Which is why good old fashioned spankings are needed once again. Nothing like a nice leather belt behind an old fashioned woodshed to keep a child in line

...I hope you're joking

No he isn't joking.

[nholley]

I wouldn;t go so far as a leather belt but a good clip round the ear can work wonders.

[GalvestonDuck]

I'd take a belt over head trauma any day.

[Lindaloo]

Which is why good old fashioned spankings are needed once again. Nothing like a nice leather belt behind an old fashioned woodshed to keep a child in line

...I hope you're joking

Why would he be joking? He speaks the truth. Kids today are out of control. Both parents have to work to make ends meet and with the zero tolerance in place, kids are being taught to become defiant in the school setting.

Corporal punishment needs to be in place instead of zero tolerance. Zero tolerance was adopted because of weapons and drugs. It is being used as a crutch so teachers do not have to deal with unruly kids.

[JonathanBelles]

i cant believe you people!

[Regit]

When I was in school we had paddling for fighting. There was a fight about once a week.

By the 90's, paddling was still in place in the local schools. The local high school had over 200 fights in a 180-day school year. The school actually closed one day because of violence.

The next year, the district hired a prinicpal who got rid of paddling and instituted a zero tolerance policy. If there was a fight, both teens were taken to the sheriff's department and dealt with there. That year there were two fights. During his four-year tenure there were seven.

[wxmann_91]

Seriously, there has to be a balance between corporal punishment and other ways of discipline.

I cannot understand some adults' attitudes these days, especially on this forum and from my experiences in daily life. Kids are bad. Kids are stupid and they know nothing. Kids destroy things and vandalize. Kids are crazy lunatics who try risky stunts. I'm sorry but a miniscule minority does not represent us all.

[Lindaloo]

i cant believe you people!

What is it you can't believe about us people? The facts? Mighty bold statement without nothing to back it up.

[kevin]

Kids have always been rebellious, hence the reason for quoting a notable Athenian from the 4th century before Jesus.

[Lindaloo]

When I was in school we had paddling for fighting. There was a fight about once a week.

By the 90's, paddling was still in place in the local schools. The local high school had over 200 fights in a 180-day school year. The school actually closed one day because of violence.

The next year, the district hired a prinicpal who got rid of paddling and instituted a zero tolerance policy. If there was a fight, both teens were taken to the sheriff's department and dealt with there. That year there were two fights. During his four-year tenure there were seven.

Zero tolerance was not adopted for fighting. It was for guns and drugs. And furthermore, zero tolerance was not adopted overnight by a district. Principals do not have the power to say whether or not they will use zero tolerance.


wxman... innocent children get caught up in the zero tolerance all the time. Although you may not be one of the bad teens, they are out there.

[wxmann_91]

The facts?

What facts?

Even since I started high school nearly 1 and a half years ago, I've only seen one fight. I have never seen somebody be disrespectful to the teacher and rarely to somebody else intentionally.

wxman... innocent children get caught up in the zero tolerance all the time. Although you may not be one of the bad teens, they are out there.

True...they're out there. But a very small minority IMO.

[Regit]

When I was in school we had paddling for fighting. There was a fight about once a week.

By the 90's, paddling was still in place in the local schools. The local high school had over 200 fights in a 180-day school year. The school actually closed one day because of violence.

The next year, the district hired a prinicpal who got rid of paddling and instituted a zero tolerance policy. If there was a fight, both teens were taken to the sheriff's department and dealt with there. That year there were two fights. During his four-year tenure there were seven.

Zero tolerance was not adopted for fighting. It was for guns and drugs. And furthermore, zero tolerance was not adopted overnight by a district. Principals do not have the power to say whether or not they will use zero tolerance.


wxman... innocent children get caught up in the zero tolerance all the time. Although you may not be one of the bad teens, they are out there.

LoL

He called his policy "zero tolerance." This was in or about 1993. And yes, a prinicpal can adopt policies and call them whatever he/she pleases.

[Ptarmigan]

Why would he be joking? He speaks the truth. Kids today are out of control. Both parents have to work to make ends meet and with the zero tolerance in place, kids are being taught to become defiant in the school setting.

Corporal punishment needs to be in place instead of zero tolerance. Zero tolerance was adopted because of weapons and drugs. It is being used as a crutch so teachers do not have to deal with unruly kids.

Dude, I hate it when kids run wild in a public place and parents do nothing about it. Some people are not fit to be parents. The last time I heard of corporal punishment being used was when I was in elementary and that was in the early 90s. Kids are spoiled.

[Yarrah]

Hmm, I thought corporal punishment was something of the old days. Still, I think corporal punishment is a very bad way of raising kids, because:

A: it gives children the impression that it's allright to resolve a conflict by using some sort of physical punishment. They're given the impression that something like that is normal. Research, for example, has shown that a large number of criminals who were caught for some sort of act of violence were punished corporally when they were still a kid. Also, research has shown that parents ho use corporal punishment, received it too when they were young. You could say that by hitting your child, you'll only make thing worse.

B: in a way, corporal punishment shows the incompetence of a parent to handle and raise his/her own child. Apparently, for the parent, there is no other way to resolve the conflict then to use corporal punishment, while most of the times there's a good, non-violent way to resolve it.

Remember that bad behavior doesn't come from the child itself. 9 out of 10 times, a child is showing unacceptable behavior because its parents didn't know how to raise the child; for example, they either gave the child everything it asked for or they were never there to raise it at all. It's a shame that children have to receive corporal punishment because their parents didn't know how to raise them in a good way.

[angelwing]

and they are much worse

Which is why good old fashioned spankings are needed once again. Nothing like a nice leather belt behind an old fashioned woodshed to keep a child in line

Agree!!!

[JonathanBelles]

kids are not out of control, parents dont know how to adapt to the new "age" of kids.

[Lindaloo]

When I was in school we had paddling for fighting. There was a fight about once a week.

By the 90's, paddling was still in place in the local schools. The local high school had over 200 fights in a 180-day school year. The school actually closed one day because of violence.

The next year, the district hired a principal who got rid of paddling and instituted a zero tolerance policy. If there was a fight, both teens were taken to the sheriff's department and dealt with there. That year there were two fights. During his four-year tenure there were seven.

Zero tolerance was not adopted for fighting. It was for guns and drugs. And furthermore, zero tolerance was not adopted overnight by a district. Principals do not have the power to say whether or not they will use zero tolerance.


wxman... innocent children get caught up in the zero tolerance all the time. Although you may not be one of the bad teens, they are out there.

LoL

He called his policy "zero tolerance." This was in or about 1993. And yes, a prinicpal can adopt policies and call them whatever he/she pleases.

Um no they cannot. They have to follow rules set in place by the superintendent and the school board. Does the principal write the student handbook? no. A principal can only recommend expulsion. The principal is not even in control of the curriculum.