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#401 Postby CajunMama » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:40 pm

gboudx ( i secretly call you boudreaux!) and jschlitz...thanks for the answers. I understand now.
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#402 Postby LAwxrgal » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:42 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:Yep, hard freeze warning in effect now, coldest temps since December 2004 on tap for tonight!


Yep Tracker, we're under freeze warning too...even in New Orleans. Hard freeze on the "north shore" and light freeze in the city. Where I am I'm expecting somewhere in the middle, I'm thinking upper 20s. Still very collld!
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#403 Postby CaptinCrunch » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:43 pm

The snow and ice we saw last Thursday was only the second time I have seen winter type precip in November (1st being Thanksgiving of 93").

November ended up (57.3) +2.0 above the monthly normal 55.3 degrees, and December is currently (39.5) -10.2 below the monthly norm. While December has just started it is still expected to be below normal on average temp wise with above average precip. As with the last arctic plunge I expect another around Christmas and again the chances of precip will depend on timing and track of upper low system.
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#404 Postby gboudx » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:47 pm

CajunMama wrote:gboudx ( i secretly call you boudreaux!) and jschlitz...thanks for the answers. I understand now.


Well, you would be correct CajunMama. :wink:
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#405 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:13 pm

Only 47.1 here today, after a low of 27.8. Already down to 39.9 and dropping quickly... expecting low 20's by morning.

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#406 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:17 pm

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
346 PM CST MON DEC 4 2006

.DISCUSSION...
EXCELLENT RADIATIONAL COOLING CONDITIONS TONIGHT. DECOUPLING WINDS
JUST AFTER SUNSET COMBINED WITH CLEAR SKIES/SFC HIGH SETTLING ATOP
THE REGION/LOW DEWPOINTS SHOULD MAKE FOR SOME COLD TEMPS OVERNIGHT.
A COUPLE OF RECORD LOW ARE IN DANGER OF BEING BROKEN (CLL/IAH..SEE
BELOW FOR THE ACTUAL NUMBERS). THE ONLY BUGABOO COULD BE THE CLOUD
(MOSTLY MID/HIGH) DECK MOVING IN FROM THE W/SW.
OTHERWISE THE REST
OF THE FCST LOOKS TO STAY ON THE QUIET/DRY SIDE. ONSHORE WINDS SET
TO RETURN AREAWIDE LATE TOMORROW AS THE HIGH SHIFTS EASTWARD. LOW-
LEVEL MOISTURE TO START INCREASING WED OVER SE TX...POOLING MAINLY
OVER THE SRN HALF OF THE FA WED NIGHT AHEAD OF THE NEXT FRONT THAT
IS STILL ON TRACK FOR PASSAGE INTO THE COASTAL WATERS BY THU MORN-
ING. AS IT HAS BEEN THESE LAST FEW RUNS...MODELS NOT TERRIBLY GUNG
HO ON THE IDEA OF WIDESPREAD PCPN WITH FROPA.
AVAILABLE MOISTURE A
TAD LOW AND CONVERGENCE ALONG THE BOUNDARY NOT THAT IMPRESSIVE. SO
BARRING ANY ROGUE S/WVS EMBEDDED WITHIN THE INCREASINGLY ZONAL UP-
PER FLOW...WILL KEEP WITH THE LOWISH POPS ALREADY IN THE GRIDS. A-
NOTHER DECENT COOLDOWN IN THE POST FRONTAL ENVIRONS WITH THE UPPER
LOW SITUATED OVER THE GREAT LAKES AND THE RIDGE OVER THE ROCKIES.
THIS PATTERN TO CREATE A NICE PATH FOR CANADIAN AIR MOVING SWD TO-
WARD THE STATE.
SOME DIFFERENCES NOTED IN THE EXTENDED GUIDANCE AS
THE GFS-LR TRIES TO DEVELOP A CLOSED LOW OVER THE CALI BAJA BEFORE
TRACKING IT EAST ACROSS NRN MEXICO. THIS FEATURE DOES SEEM TO HAVE
AN IMPACT ON THE RIDGE THAT SHOULD BE BUILDING ALOFT OVER THE CNTL
PLAINS IN THE WAKE OF THE STRONG TROF MOVING OFF THE NERN US COAST.
ON THE OTHER HAND...THE ECMWF DOES NOT APPEAR TO FEATURE THIS FEA-
TURE AT ALL. SO WILL OPT TO HEDGE ON THIS PORTION OF THE FCST JUST
A LITTLE LONGER. 41

RECORD LOW FOR TUE (12/5)
CLL 25 IN 1921
IAH 28 IN 1990
GLS 25 IN 1886
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#407 Postby Yankeegirl » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:25 pm

THE ONLY BUGABOO COULD BE THE CLOUD
(MOSTLY MID/HIGH) DECK MOVING IN FROM THE W/SW.


Who is reporting this? a Childrens bookwriter??? That made me laugh! I havent heard that word in years!!!
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#408 Postby weatherrabbit_tx » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:34 pm

bears and bugaboos, hehehe :lol:
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#409 Postby jasons2k » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:04 pm

For my zone from NWS:

"Tonight: Clear, with a low around 29. Calm wind."

Ouch. That would be my coldest reading since we moved here in '05. I hope those clouds can roll-in or something.
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#410 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:16 pm

jschlitz wrote:For my zone from NWS:

"Tonight: Clear, with a low around 29. Calm wind."

Ouch. That would be my coldest reading since we moved here in '05. I hope those clouds can roll-in or something.
The crazy thing is it may even be colder than that. The NWS is probably just waiting to see if those high clouds will have an impact before going too low.

Over in Beaumont they have a low forecast of 26-27F.

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#411 Postby Yankeegirl » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:30 pm

They are forecasting clear and 30 for me tonight.... Chilly! I think I am going to put on the fireplace and put up the Christmas tree!!!
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#412 Postby gboudx » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:56 pm

jschlitz wrote:For my zone from NWS:

"Tonight: Clear, with a low around 29. Calm wind."

Ouch. That would be my coldest reading since we moved here in '05. I hope those clouds can roll-in or something.


What plants are you dreading losing from this? From our freezing rain/sleet/snow and freezing temps last week, we lost our canna lillies and basil. I cut them back this past weekend.
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#413 Postby JenBayles » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:04 pm

Well, at least those "bugaboos" and "bears" get our attention. :lol:

This weather is reminiscent more of January than early December. I have been cold all day long, and very grateful for the stack of firewood (dwindling already) we got a couple weeks ago. Fire, fire, FIRE!! :lol:
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#414 Postby jasons2k » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:11 pm

Hopefully I won't actually lose anything at 29F - other than finishing off my bananas and canna lillies. The cutoff for my Majesty Palms, Citrus, and Pygmy Date is 28F before I worry about real damage - so I am borderline before wrapping them up.

My hibiscus are still alive but I plan to replace them anyway this spring.

Also - yes it will prob. be colder towards Beaumont. Lows get colder off to the east.
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#415 Postby jasons2k » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:12 pm

JenBayles wrote:Well, at least those "bugaboos" and "bears" get our attention. :lol:

This weather is reminiscent more of January than early December. I have been cold all day long, and very grateful for the stack of firewood (dwindling already) we got a couple weeks ago. Fire, fire, FIRE!! :lol:


Ok Beavis :lol:
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#416 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:15 pm

I am already down to 39F here at 6:13pm. At this rate I will be in the mid 20s by morning.

Also, I do not see a single cloud in the sky and there is no wind at all. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the NWS cuts back low temperatures at their next update.
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#417 Postby jasons2k » Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:02 pm

I am already down to 40 here and I'm pretty concerned myself. 40@ 7PM is not a good sign. But it should not fall at this pace all night, it should level off some in a few hours.

7:15 - now 39F here
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#418 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:42 pm

I now have a reading of 35F at 7:40pm. Brrr...

Also..more bad news..

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
713 PM CST MON DEC 4 2006

.DISCUSSION...
SETTING UP FOR THE COLDEST NIGHT OF THE SEASON SO FAR ACROSS MOST
OF SE TX. SURFACE ANALYSIS SHOWS 1034 MB HIGH CENTERED RIGHT OVER
SE TX THIS EVENING.
TEMPS ARE DROPPING QUICKLY WITH VERY DRY
AIRMASS (DEWPOINTS UPPER TEENS/LOWER 20S) AND DECOUPLING WINDS.
MANY LOCATIONS IN OUR NRN ZONES ARE ALREADY IN THE MID 30S. HAVE
DECIDED TO LOWER MINS OVER MOST OF THE AREA TONIGHT...WITH LOWER
TO MID 20S OVER THE NORTHERN HALF AND UPPER 20S TO AROUND 30
ELSEWHERE. EVERYONE CAN EXPECT FREEZING TEMPS EXCEPT THE IMMEDIATE
COAST WHICH WILL ONLY DROP TO AROUND 40.
WILL UPDATE HWOHGX AND
ISSUE SPS ABOUT THE FREEZING TEMPS. IR IMAGERY SHOWS SCATTERED
HIGH CLOUDS STREAMING IN FROM THE WEST...BUT THINK CLOUD COVER
WILL REMAIN THIN ENOUGH TO HAVE LITTLE IMPACT ON TEMPS.


The new forecast low for my area is...26/27F! Also, Conroe is now forecast to hit 24F, and the Woodlands to hit 26F! This will be the coldest night in a long time for sure. Even IAH should be in the 20s. :eek:

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#419 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:49 pm

Special Weather Statement Issued!

Special Weather Statement

HOUSTON-TRINITY-MADISON-WALKER-SAN JACINTO-POLK-BURLESON-BRAZOS- WASHINGTON-GRIMES-MONTGOMERY-LIBERTY- COLORADO-AUSTIN-WALLER- HARRIS- CHAMBERS-WHARTON-FORT BEND-JACKSON- MATAGORDA-BRAZORIA- GALVESTON- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...CROCKETT... TRINITY...GROVETON... MADISONVILLE... HUNTSVILLE...SHEPHERD...COLDSPRING... LIVINGSTON... CORRIGAN...ONALASKA... CALDWELL...LAKE SOMERVILLE... COLLEGE STATION...BRYAN...BRENHAM...NAVASOTA... THE WOODLANDS... CONROE...WILLIS... LIBERTY...CLEVELAND...DAYTON... COLUMBUS... EAGLE LAKE...WEIMAR... SEALY...BELLVILLE...HEMPSTEAD... PRAIRIE VIEW...BROOKSHIRE...HOUSTON... PASADENA...KATY...TOMBALL... HUMBLE... WINNIE...MONT BELVIEU...ANAHUAC...EL CAMPO...WHARTON... PIERCE...SUGAR LAND...MISSOURI CITY...RICHMOND... ROSENBERG... EDNA...BAY CITY... PALACIOS...PEARLAND...LAKE JACKSON... ALVIN... ANGLETON...FREEPORT...LEAGUE CITY...TEXAS CITY...FRIENDSWOOD... GALVESTON 742 PM CST MON DEC 4 2006
...FREEZING TEMPERATURES OVER MOST OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS TONIGHT...

A DRY AIRMASS AND LIGHT WINDS WILL ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO FALL BELOW FREEZING OVER ALL BUT THE IMMEDIATE COAST TONIGHT. THIS WILL BE THE COLDEST NIGHT OF THE SEASON SO FAR IN MOST AREAS.

NORTH AND EAST OF A LINE FROM MADISONVILLE TO NAVASOTA TO CONROE TO CLEVELAND...TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO FALL BELOW FREEZING LATE EVENING AND REMAIN BELOW FREEZING UNTIL MID MORNING TUESDAY. TEMPERATURES COULD REMAIN BELOW FREEZING FOR 9 TO 12 HOURS IN THIS AREA. READINGS WILL BOTTOM OUT AT 22 TO 26 DEGREES.

FURTHER SOUTH AND WEST...OVER THE REMAINDER OF THE INLAND COUNTIES OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS...TEMPERATURES SHOULD FALL BELOW FREEZING AROUND MIDNIGHT AND REMAIN BELOW FREEZING THROUGH EARLY TUESDAY. THIS INCLUDES THE OUTLYING SUBURBS OF HOUSTON. TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN BELOW FREEZING FOR 6 TO 8 HOURS IN THESE AREAS. READINGS WILL BOTTOM OUT BETWEEN 25 AND 30 DEGREES. THE EXCEPTION WILL BE THE METRO HOUSTON AREA...WHERE ONLY A LIGHT FREEZE (31 OR 32 DEGREES) IS EXPECTED.

OVER THE INLAND PORTIONS OF THE COASTAL COUNTIES...TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN BELOW FREEZING FOR 3 TO 6 HOURS. READINGS IN THIS AREA WILL BOTTOM OUT BETWEEN 28 AND 32 DEGREES.

A FREEZE WARNING WILL BE NOT BE ISSUED SINCE MOST AREAS HAVE ALREADY ENDURED FREEZING TEMPERATURES THIS SEASON.

SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES ARE IMMINENT OR HIGHLY LIKELY. THESE CONDITIONS WILL AFFECT HIGHLY SENSITIVE VEGETATION.
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#420 Postby Yankeegirl » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:20 pm

Earlier the low forecasted by the NWS had a low of 30, now they changed it to a low of 32? that makes no sence after that special report they made? !
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