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#21 Postby Regit » Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:19 pm

Would be nice to see a White Christmas on the Carolina coast. Last one here was 1989, and Christmas Eve that year was the coldest day we ever had in the area.

I remember people who'd lived here a long time then saying it was the first white Christmas they'd ever seen, so I'd be amazed to see another any time soon.
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#22 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:22 pm

I am not sure a freak winter weather event and a hurricane strike the following summer go hand in hand. In 04 as you all know the Coastal Bend got the historic Christmas snowstorm of recorded weather history. But in 2005 we escaped all tropical activety. In 1983 and 1989. we had historic cold snaps and ditto.
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#23 Postby GalvestonDuck » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:23 pm

cctxhurricanewatcher wrote:I am not sure a freak winter weather event and a hurricane strike the following summer go hand in hand. In 04 as you all know the Coastal Bend got the historic Christmas snowstorm of recorded weather history. But in 2005 we escaped all tropical activety. In 1983 and 1989. we had historic cold snaps and ditto.


That may not quite be true in your neck of the woods. But hurricane landfalls are a bit more narrow than the path of winter storms. We all got winter here on the coast, but you guys escaped the tropical stuff by a slim margin. Meanwhile, up on the southeast Texas coast:

2005 - Rita
1989 - Allison, Chantal, Jerry
1983 - Alicia

(And let it be noted -- that Tropical Storm Allison was bad too...even if many of us only remember the one in 2001)
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#24 Postby Regit » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:18 pm

I've never heard anyone say anything about snow being followed by a hurricane. Although in this area, people tend to connect Hurricanes with a snow the season after the hurricane. The two biggest hurricane events of the past 20 years here have been followed by the two biggest snow events of the past 20 years.

Hugo 1989 --> 13" snow 12/22-12/25 1989

Floyd 1999 ---> 8" snow 1/25 2000

Of course the first thing you learn in basic statistics courses is that correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation.
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#25 Postby southerngale » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:21 pm

duckie, wasn't that Allison in the summer of 1989 and then the snow was after that, near Christmas of 1989?
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#26 Postby wx247 » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:08 pm

Can I have a white Christmas? Please!!!!???!!! haha

Actually... at the rate of melting right now... we still have some of this ice and snow on the ground on Christmas. :eek:
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#27 Postby sunny » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:27 pm

hmmmm Jagno and CajunMama - I went looking and found that prior to Christmas Day 2004, the last time NOLA had snow on Christmas Day was in 1954, followed by Tropical Storm Brenda in July of 1955 (max winds of 60), and then Tropical Storm #5 in August 1955 (max winds 40).

Interesting fact for today :D
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#28 Postby Lindaloo » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:41 pm

Since some believe that snow has something to do with hurricane season, please provide me some scientific proof? That way I will know 100% whether I want snow or not this year.

I am not from Louisiana, so please fill me in on the cajun folklore. :cheesy:
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#29 Postby sunny » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:42 pm

I'm not saying I believe there is a connection - I just thought it was an interesting find. I had never heard this folklore before Katrina.
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#30 Postby Lindaloo » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:00 pm

sunny wrote:I'm not saying I believe there is a connection - I just thought it was an interesting find. I had never heard this folklore before Katrina.


Sorry, I was not directing that at you. :oops: Was generally speaking and Kathy mentioned the folklore. :P
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#31 Postby sunny » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:05 pm

Lindaloo wrote:
sunny wrote:I'm not saying I believe there is a connection - I just thought it was an interesting find. I had never heard this folklore before Katrina.


Sorry, I was not directing that at you. :oops: Was generally speaking and Kathy mentioned the folklore. :P


I'm sorry :oops:
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#32 Postby WhiteShirt » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:28 pm

southerngale wrote:duckie, wasn't that Allison in the summer of 1989 and then the snow was after that, near Christmas of 1989?


If it's Tropical Storm Allison, that was June 2001.
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#33 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:44 pm

WhiteShirt wrote:
southerngale wrote:duckie, wasn't that Allison in the summer of 1989 and then the snow was after that, near Christmas of 1989?


If it's Tropical Storm Allison, that was June 2001.


there was another one in 1989...names repeat as long as theyre not significant storms
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#34 Postby AnnularCane » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:49 pm

sunny wrote:hmmmm Jagno and CajunMama - I went looking and found that prior to Christmas Day 2004, the last time NOLA had snow on Christmas Day was in 1954, followed by Tropical Storm Brenda in July of 1955 (max winds of 60), and then Tropical Storm #5 in August 1955 (max winds 40).

Interesting fact for today :D



I think they mean BIG storms. :wink:
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#35 Postby sunny » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:50 pm

AnnularCane wrote:
sunny wrote:hmmmm Jagno and CajunMama - I went looking and found that prior to Christmas Day 2004, the last time NOLA had snow on Christmas Day was in 1954, followed by Tropical Storm Brenda in July of 1955 (max winds of 60), and then Tropical Storm #5 in August 1955 (max winds 40).

Interesting fact for today :D



I think they mean BIG storms. :wink:


Yes, I am aware of that.
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#36 Postby southerngale » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:10 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
WhiteShirt wrote:
southerngale wrote:duckie, wasn't that Allison in the summer of 1989 and then the snow was after that, near Christmas of 1989?


If it's Tropical Storm Allison, that was June 2001.


there was another one in 1989...names repeat as long as theyre not significant storms


Yeah, what he said. :)

I remember Allison 2001 VERY WELL - we flooded badly here.
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#37 Postby CajunMama » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:25 pm

Lindaloo wrote:Since some believe that snow has something to do with hurricane season, please provide me some scientific proof? That way I will know 100% whether I want snow or not this year.

I am not from Louisiana, so please fill me in on the cajun folklore. :cheesy:


No, Jagno mentioned the folklore. I just agreed with her. No one ever said it was scientific proof. I just mentioned i barely had any snow that christmas day and didn't have any damage from either hurricane. I was right smack dab in the middle of them. I was just having a little fun here not knowing i had to provide scientific facts on what i was saying.
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#38 Postby CajunMama » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:27 pm

AnnularCane wrote:
sunny wrote:hmmmm Jagno and CajunMama - I went looking and found that prior to Christmas Day 2004, the last time NOLA had snow on Christmas Day was in 1954, followed by Tropical Storm Brenda in July of 1955 (max winds of 60), and then Tropical Storm #5 in August 1955 (max winds 40).

Interesting fact for today :D



I think they mean BIG storms. :wink:


No, no one said anything about the storms being big or small. Gosh, all this from an innocent statement.
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#39 Postby WhiteShirt » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:34 pm

southerngale wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:
WhiteShirt wrote:
southerngale wrote:duckie, wasn't that Allison in the summer of 1989 and then the snow was after that, near Christmas of 1989?


If it's Tropical Storm Allison, that was June 2001.


there was another one in 1989...names repeat as long as theyre not significant storms


Yeah, what he said. :)

I remember Allison 2001 VERY WELL - we flooded badly here.


Me, too. My niece got married that night, and her and new husband were flooded out trying to get to the airport. I guess that was a bad omen, because they divorced 4 years later. :roll:
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#40 Postby sunny » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:42 pm

CajunMama wrote:
AnnularCane wrote:
sunny wrote:hmmmm Jagno and CajunMama - I went looking and found that prior to Christmas Day 2004, the last time NOLA had snow on Christmas Day was in 1954, followed by Tropical Storm Brenda in July of 1955 (max winds of 60), and then Tropical Storm #5 in August 1955 (max winds 40).

Interesting fact for today :D



I think they mean BIG storms. :wink:


No, no one said anything about the storms being big or small. Gosh, all this from an innocent statement.


I still think it's interesting - whether it's true or not I don't know.
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