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#281 Postby wx247 » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:00 am

Tonight's episode... WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW!!! Is that enough wows for you?

My favorite characters:
1. Juliette (I must have a thing for blondes... GDuck... no comment! lol)
2. Sun
3. Rose/Bernard
4. Locke
5. Hurley

*Can you tell that I am much more of a secondary character fan?*


Favorite Line: ??? I will have to think on that ???


Favorite Scene: When Libby pulled Hurley back from the cliff.


Miss The Most: DUH!!! LIBBY!!! :cry:
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#282 Postby O Town » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:19 am

:woo:
Finally, back on. So glad they had the survivors guide on first, or I don't think I would have remebered everything too well. I thought that was a good way to do a recap show. Get a little bit into the producers head. :P

New episode was great, can't wait to see what happens here. As usual there were some questions answered, but then they leave you with just as many new ones to answer. I love this show! I am so happy its finally back.
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#283 Postby Miss Mary » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:53 am

Me too - thrilled to have Lost back.

So many questions....naturally!

Juliette's character was more likeable tonight. At least we caught a glimpse of her life before she was brought to the island (or Portland, OR as she thought).

They all thought they were going someplace else I guess - our Losties - LA and points beyond. Desmond - sailing around the world. Danielle - forget where but not this island.

Now I'm wondering who's been brought to the island against their will or strongly encouraged to succomb to pressure? Definitely Ethan.

Can I say again - there was something so creepy about Ethan.

Question - how could Ben wake up and talk in the middle of surgery? And not be in pain! OMG, I was wincing when he woke up.

And like any good surgeon, Jack stuck around, watching his patient. He could have just high tailed it out of there, swimming to the other island. His island. Anything beats being held captive! But was he waiting for Ben to come out of anethesia? And why was Ben still on his stomach? I would think he'd be in recovery on his back?

So now another stranger has to move in with the Losties - Carl. He's going to have some stories to tell!

Can't wait for next week.

Previews: God bless Kate - I knew she'd go back for Jack! This is why she is my second favorite character!

Garrett - I have noticed how you like secondary characters. I like that about you! I'm guessing you always root for the under dog too? In general I mean....

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#284 Postby Miss Mary » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:01 am

TV Guide's Commentary (let me know if you all could care less about these):

http://community.tvguide.com/forum.jspa ... =800030871

Lost
by Sabrina Rojas Weiss

February 7, 2007: Drs. Burke and Shepherd, Round 2

ABC insiders are having a little fun with this not-so-inside joke, no? And that concludes the obvious portion of tonight's episode. The rest is almost pure psychodrama. Who's on whose side? What's motivating whom? Who's in charge when and where? Damn if we'll ever know, but I'm loving the emotional twists and turns.

At first, I thought Juliet injecting stuff into her bald sister meant that she wasn't a fertility doc after all, but an oncologist. Wrong. She's a fancy fertility doc who can impregnate a male mouse. But what kind of power did her ex-husband have over her that she scurried around in fear of him and still worked in his lab while he fooled around with hot research assistants? I like how Mittelos Bioscience's Dr. Halpert tried to lure her in with some stock photography before he really got her attention with those x-rays of a 26-year-old woman's uterus that looked like it belonged to a 72-year-old. Is it Penny's? Or maybe someone on the island? I know one of the theories out there is that the people on the island are infertile, which is why they're always stealing kids. Maybe there's something making their reproductive systems deteriorate. What really creeped me out about Halpert wasn't his aggressive recruiting tactics but his eyeliner. And the whole bus-hitting thing. I attribute that more to the hand of J.J. Abrams, who may not be very involved in this show anymore, but I can just imagine him sending out little memos to his people saying, "You know, it's been a couple years since someone on my show has been suddenly hit by a car. I'm disappointed in you guys." And all these years after Todd Mulcahy got slammed by a bus while wooing Felicity, I still find it funny. I'm sick. Anyway, those Mittelos people, aka the Dharma Initiative, arranged things quite nicely for Juliet. I just did a little check on the boards and discovered that Mittelos is an anagram of "lost time" (was that cheating?). That would explain why Juliet was supposed to go to this "not Portland" for six months and has been there for three years, two months and 28 days, which means she's been on the island since late summer of 2001. I really hope there's no 9/11 tie-in with that. We deserve better.

Juliet seems to be a pretty good judge of character, so I'm sure she a) knew Jack wouldn't let Ben die and b) assumed that at some point he would tell everyone that she asked him to kill Ben. So whose fault is it that Ben woke up on the operating table? And can any lip readers out there tell me what he really said? I'm getting very confused about who wanted to kill Sawyer and Kate and who wanted to set them free. Danny wanted them dead 'cause of his wife, of course. But Ben and Juliet kept going back and forth on the matter. You could assume Kate and Sawyer were being held at first just to motivate Jack to operate, but if that were the case, why would they be threatening to kill them while the operation was still going on? And forgive me if I'm stating something you've gone over before, but why would Ben have cancer if the island made Rose's disappear?

This episode wasn't big on action, but the little there was offered more proof that both the Others and Sawyer are terrible shots. He needs to learn to give Kate the gun at all times. But it was Alex and the superb burrowing skills she learned from Mama Rousseau that saved them. Best Sawyer nickname-bestowing of the night: "Nice to meet you, Sheena." Best overall Sawyer quote: "Don't get mad at me just because you were dumb enough to fall for the ol' Wookie-prisoner gag." Couldn't get much out of slow-mo'ing the video Carl was forced to watch, Clockwork Orange-style. For those of you who'd like to decode it, it said: "Plant a good seed and you will joyfully gather fruit. Everything changes. We are the causes of our own suffering. God loves you as he loved Jacob. Think about your life." And it had a brief flash of that far-off shot of Alvar Hanso in the office building. Anything else I missed?

A few other things we learned: Alex is Ben's daughter. Does Rousseau know that? And Kate really does love Jack. At least that's how Sawyer and I are interpreting Kate's tears. Man, ABC shows do know how to turn surgery tales into the best love poems!
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#285 Postby Brent » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:12 pm

From Mediaweek:

Lost returned with a 9.8 rating/15 share in the overnights, which ranked second in the 10 p.m. hour behind CBS' CSI: NY (10.0/15). Although Lost should have no trouble winning the hour among adults 18-49 once the fast nationals are posted at PIfeedback.com, here are observations -- positive and negative -- to make note of:

1) Leading out of Dancing With the Stars, Lost averaged a heftier 11.5/17 in the overnights this fall in the Wednesday 9 p.m. hour..
2) Lost last night led out of a retrospective special, The Lost Survivor Guide, which scored a third-place 6.7/10 at 9 p.m. Next Wednesday, Lost airs out of the regularly scheduled, and barely seen, In Case of Emergency.
3) Lost increased from the debut of former regularly scheduled occupant The Nine (9.1/15 on Oct. 4, 2006) by only 8 percent in the overnights.
4) The year ago occupant, Invasion, rated considerably lower, however, at a 6.4/10 in the overnights (out of a 12.1/17 for Lost).

Although the cancellation bells will certainly not be ringing anytime soon, Lost is a classic example of a show mishandled by its network.

and in the fast nationals, not that good. I expected a high 9.

At 10 p.m., "CSI: NY" posted a 10.2/16 for CBS, winning the hour in viewers over the return of ABC's "Lost," 8.5/14, which was well below its season average (but did win the hour in adults 18-49). NBC's "Medium" was third at 5.4/8.
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#286 Postby wx247 » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:24 pm

I think you will see this show wrapped up next season much to my chagrin. Oh, and by the way, I still think Jack is an other. ;)
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#287 Postby wx247 » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:26 pm

Miss Mary... I don't know what it is about secondary characters that I enjoy. I guess it is the fact that I find their stories more fascinating. Libby had potential for an amazing story, as do Bernard and Rose. Juliette is fascinating to me just based on her position as an Other. Hurley's visit to the insane asylum makes his character much more dimentional than originally thought and Locke is very complex. I find Jack to be too bland.. except for the fact that he is an Other. ;)
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#288 Postby southerngale » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:22 pm

You think Jack is an Other? lol

Why?


Miss Mary...since Ben's surgery was on his back, I don't think he can lay on it yet, so he's recovering in that position.


I'm so glad LOST is back!!!
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#289 Postby Miss Mary » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:40 pm

Jack an Other - wash your mouth out Garrett!!!!

LOL

I've heard this theory before......if you go back to the pilot, Jack stumbled out of the woods, he wasn't on the beach with the rest of the Losties.

But I'd be interested to read why you think he might be an Other Garrett. Seriously. But I don't believe for one second he is.


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#290 Postby Tstormwatcher » Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:44 pm

After reading these comments, I am looking forward to watching the show tonight.
1 hour and 15 minutes to go. :ggreen:
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#291 Postby Tstormwatcher » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:12 pm

Good show, very surprised at what Juliet did in the end. And it seems that she is being held against her will which explains why she wanted ben to die.
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#292 Postby wx247 » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:30 am

I have several reasons why Jack is an other:

1) He woke up in the island. He was originally a plant who was supposed to save lives but he went beyond that. He turned his back on the Others. Thus, when he was captured, he was put in an observation cell inside and separated from Kate and Sawyer. Sort of a he was a bad guy but had second thoughts kind of thing.

2) This is why he told Kate not to come back for him. I realize Jack may be noble, but is he that noble?

3) He is a doctor. DUH!!! The Others aren't stupid enough to be on the island without one are they? I don't think so.

4) This is why he wanted to know what Juliette and Ben were saying to each other. While it comes across to us that he is just being nosy, he really wants to know what his future has in store.

Okay, that is just a sample of my reasons why...go ahead, tear the theory apart. I hope I am wrong.
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#293 Postby Miss Mary » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:38 am

I hope you are wrong too Garrett. But you make valid points. Another might be if you recall Jack fought being their leader. Especially when Locke told him to step up, be that leader, Jack hesitated. As if to say - this isn't right, I can't do this.

Wait, don't sway me to the dark side here....LOL

Jack is not an Other (drumming into my head here).

No I don't believe he is but I think the writers may want us to wonder if he is an other.

Just another twist to the puzzle? Maybe!

One final note, fans thought right away that Ben is Alex's father. But wouldn't Danielle have recognized Ben when he caught in the net? If he is Alex's father, maybe Danielle was tricking the Losties? Or maybe since Alex was kidnapped as a baby, she may not even know her mother is on the other island and she also could have been told Ben is her father. When in fact he isn't - biologically speaking.

One more note - there seems to be a biological father theme going on. With Kate and now Sun's baby. Is Jin the father or not?

Mmmm......interesting!

Yet one more note - my daughter think someone named Jacob is in charge, not Ben. And here is how that Other order goes:

1. Jacob
2. Ben
3. Juliet

And she wonders if Juliet's ex is really Jacob?

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#294 Postby southerngale » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:08 pm

I never thought Ben was Alex's biological father. I immediately figured that since she was kidnapped as a baby from Danielle, she was just told that Ben was her father. It is odd though that if Danielle named her Alex, why they'd continue to call her that, risking Danielle running into her or hearing of her, etc. Why wouldn't they just rename her? Maybe they think Danielle died with the others (not THE Others, but the others who died. lol) But if that's the case, it'd be kinda hard to believe that they didn't run into Danielle for 16 years!
Danielle is definitely odd, but I don't think she is an Other. I think she's just paranoid and a little on the nutso side, understandably so.

Garrett, I respectfully disagree about Jack. He's a good guy!!
You do raise some interesting points, but his back story doesn't jive with that theory.
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#295 Postby lurkey » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:28 pm

Episode 3x10 "Tricia Tanaka is Dead" promo pics -- not much in the way of spoilers
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#296 Postby brunota2003 » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:45 pm

Wasn't Jack on the plane? When they show it breaking apart, he is on the plane...and you know that the Others did not know the plane was going to crash right then and there (or did they?) remember the first episode this season showed it from the Others view, and they were surprised at the plane and dispatched people out to survey the area, etc...leads me to believe Jack is not an Other and that the plane crashing was not *entirely* planned...(got to always leave that doubt in there though...)
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#297 Postby Tstormwatcher » Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:52 pm

Jack was on the plane, he was taking his dead father back to the states. Remember.
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#298 Postby brunota2003 » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:22 pm

Tstormwatcher wrote:Jack was on the plane, he was taking his dead father back to the states. Remember.
Thats what I thought...at least I remembered something correctly...:lol:
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#299 Postby Miss Mary » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:18 pm

I've read about Garrett's theory before. On Lost message boards. For some reason fans put this idea in that Ethan category, remember Ethan was discovered coming out of the woods too. And there's a connection about the reflection we see in Jack's eye, in the pilot.

But do I believe any of this bunk - NO!!!!

Jack was on the plane. But I do respect Garrett's opinion.

Another recurring theory is they are in Purgatory but I dare anyone to post this idea on the Internet Movie Database Lost board. If you do, look out. Die hard Lost fans blast you for that opinion. Besides the creators have said it's not Purgatory. They even did a spoof on it, on SNL when Matthew Fox hosted.

I want to figure some of this out and then again, I just want more actual time on the island with our Losties - not the others. I want more of Charlie, Claire, baby Aaron Hurley, Sayid (I miss his wisdom), Sun, Jin, even Rose (is she still doing laundry on the beach, bet she misses that washer in the hatch), and even the dog, I miss Vincent. There I said it - I miss the dog more than I care about Juliet. Sorry Garrett...... :wink:

Mostly I'm just glad to have Lost back and wait for answers.

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#300 Postby lurkey » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:26 pm

I don't think Jack is an Other, but I think his father is somehow associated with the Hanso Foundation and/or the Widmores. But then again, I think Claire is Jack's half-sister.

'Lost' loses footage in airport blunder


By Sean Hao
Advertiser Staff Writer


Film from ABC's hit show "Lost" was ruined when security employees at the Honolulu International Airport accidentally X-rayed the canisters despite warnings labels asking them not to.

The show's crew had to reshoot the scenes because there were no copies.

"This is the first time anything like this has happened," said state Film Commissioner Donne Dawson, adding that steps have been taken to prevent a repeat of the incident.

The loss will not affect the broadcast schedule for the popular show, according to co-executive producer Jean Higgins.

Higgins declined to say how much the gaffe cost ABC.

"That's proprietary information between us and the insurance company," she said. "We've already reshot. We are still on schedule."

Having to reshoot film is a monumental issue, said Anne Misawa, a local film producer and instructor at the University of Hawai'i Academy for Creative Media. A reshoot involves paying added costs for actors and venues.

For a commercial, those costs could easily top $100,000, and for a big-budget production such as "Lost," a reshoot could be more expensive. "You have to redo everything related to the production of the damaged dailies," Misawa said.

"Lost" reportedly spends $1.5 million to $2 million or more per episode with about 200 full- and part-time workers. Normally it takes about eight days to shoot an episode of "Lost." So if one day's worth of film was destroyed, the cost could be close to $200,000.

A commercial for Bank of Hawaii also was accidentally X-rayed and ruined on the same day the "Lost" film was X-rayed.

The incidents occurred when the film canisters were mistakenly mixed with passenger luggage and then sent through an X-ray machine. The canisters were left unattended at X-ray machines along with other non-film cargo. The film apparently was then thrown in with piles of passenger luggage without regard for the warning labels indicating not to X-ray the sensitive contents within.

According to an informational Web site run by the film office, the mistake occurred following a new Transportation Security Administration cargo security directive that requires that all small cargo packages traveling on passenger planes be screened by air carriers via an explosive detection system or explosive trace detection system.

Explosive trace detection testing involves TSA agents swiping items with cotton pads then testing the pads in a machine that detects explosive residue. That test would not destroy film.

Film shot in Hawaii typically is sent to the Mainland for processing.

The state film office said it has worked with TSA and United Airlines to put a new process in place that will prevent future accidents.

"The issue has been addressed, and they have procedures in place to make sure it doesn't happen again," said Dawson, the state film commissioner.

Reach Sean Hao at shao@honoluluadvertiser.com
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