TX Winter Wx Threat # 11-- sleet and snow in a lot of Tx/La
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I did not check my good thermometer before leaving but most of the stations surrounding my area were 25-26F. IAH was 27F and I'm normally 1 degree colder so 26F sounds right. Here is a report from a reliable station just a couple of miles form me:
Last Updated: 8:15am on 2/16/07
Outside Temperature: 26.4°F
Today's High: 31.7°F at 12:00am
Lo: 25.5°F at 7:26am
Barometric Trend: -0.00
I think most of my plants will be OK but the cover did blow off of one of my tropical shrubs in the front. It looked very wilted and sick this morning, but if that's the only plant I lose, I'll be happy.
With some of the reports I've seen in the city look for a lot of dead tropicals unfortunately. Lots of dead papaya, Norfolk Pines, etc.
Today is a very sad day for garden enthusiasts.
Last Updated: 8:15am on 2/16/07
Outside Temperature: 26.4°F
Today's High: 31.7°F at 12:00am
Lo: 25.5°F at 7:26am
Barometric Trend: -0.00
I think most of my plants will be OK but the cover did blow off of one of my tropical shrubs in the front. It looked very wilted and sick this morning, but if that's the only plant I lose, I'll be happy.
With some of the reports I've seen in the city look for a lot of dead tropicals unfortunately. Lots of dead papaya, Norfolk Pines, etc.
Today is a very sad day for garden enthusiasts.
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Nah, looks like they just had upper 20s in urban Houston, that's not too bad and not enough to kill Norfolk Pines, I've seen old ones survive 23-24F in Florida. The truly tropical stuff like hibiscus and bougainvillea won't be thrilled but they'll come back. Probably a good thing you protected your majesty palms though
Nah, looks like they just had upper 20s in urban Houston, that's not too bad and not enough to kill Norfolk Pines, I've seen old ones survive 23-24F in Florida. The truly tropical stuff like hibiscus and bougainvillea won't be thrilled but they'll come back. Probably a good thing you protected your majesty palms though
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Hey Rich,
That is amazing if they survived that low:
"Hardiness: USDA Zones 10 - 11. Norfolk Island pine is very tender and will begin to sustain damage at temperatures below 40ºF (4.4ºC) beginning with discoloration of foliage. In Florida the Norfolk Island pine is grown in warmer and protected micro-climates throughout Zone 9 - especially near the water. If the tree is killed by frost new stems will be produced from the roots."
http://www.floridata.com/ref/a/arau_het.cfm
http://hort.ufl.edu/trees/ARAHETA.pdf
Also, most of the ones here in Houston are younger trees because they were all killed by the last big freeze. They were just now starting to mature some.
That is amazing if they survived that low:
"Hardiness: USDA Zones 10 - 11. Norfolk Island pine is very tender and will begin to sustain damage at temperatures below 40ºF (4.4ºC) beginning with discoloration of foliage. In Florida the Norfolk Island pine is grown in warmer and protected micro-climates throughout Zone 9 - especially near the water. If the tree is killed by frost new stems will be produced from the roots."
http://www.floridata.com/ref/a/arau_het.cfm
http://hort.ufl.edu/trees/ARAHETA.pdf
Also, most of the ones here in Houston are younger trees because they were all killed by the last big freeze. They were just now starting to mature some.
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Brrrrrr.... it's a cold one!!
There were several 23° and 24° readings in Beaumont this morning, and a 22° at KFDM. I've got ice puddles outside as it was below freezing for many hours.
Officially, it hit 25° at KBPT, the Beaumont/Port Arthur Regional Airport (which is actually south of Beaumont), breaking the old record of 27° in 1906. That's quite a few cold records broken this winter here. Too bad we couldn't get some snow out of this cold winter though.
At 10:45am, it's only 33° - NWS lowered today's high as well. They originally had 50's, now show 45°
Now how about some warm, spring temps?
There were several 23° and 24° readings in Beaumont this morning, and a 22° at KFDM. I've got ice puddles outside as it was below freezing for many hours.
Officially, it hit 25° at KBPT, the Beaumont/Port Arthur Regional Airport (which is actually south of Beaumont), breaking the old record of 27° in 1906. That's quite a few cold records broken this winter here. Too bad we couldn't get some snow out of this cold winter though.
At 10:45am, it's only 33° - NWS lowered today's high as well. They originally had 50's, now show 45°
Now how about some warm, spring temps?
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Ahh... I always get a kick out of reading this thread.
That's our high today!
It's been snowing enough over the past several weeks that the plows now have piles of snow well over 10 feet high. Over the past month, we've had three days where our high temperature got above freezing.
With that said, looks like this nasty trough that's been funneling cold weather to the eastern half of the nation should see a building ridge over the next week or two, boosting temperatures.
Actually, there's a rumor going around here in Omaha that we might actually have a day where the morning low is above freezing with highs approaching 60. I'll have to make a post in Matt-hurricanehunter's last freeze thread when that happens.
southerngale wrote:Brrrrrr.... it's a cold one!!
There were several 23° and 24° readings in Beaumont this morning, and a 22° at KFDM. I've got ice puddles outside as it was below freezing for many hours.
That's our high today!
It's been snowing enough over the past several weeks that the plows now have piles of snow well over 10 feet high. Over the past month, we've had three days where our high temperature got above freezing.
With that said, looks like this nasty trough that's been funneling cold weather to the eastern half of the nation should see a building ridge over the next week or two, boosting temperatures.
Actually, there's a rumor going around here in Omaha that we might actually have a day where the morning low is above freezing with highs approaching 60. I'll have to make a post in Matt-hurricanehunter's last freeze thread when that happens.
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After a few days of problems...I was finally able to log back in tonight! 
(back on topic now) As for the cold weather...
I had 23.2F on my thermometer and puddles were frozen over anywhere they were present this morning. Coldest of the winter (and of the last 5 years at IAH..which hit 26F) for sure!
Now that the cold is passing though, let's just hope this was our last blast of the season! I am now fully ready for spring and the warmth of highs back into the 70s and 80s!
BTW: It is hard to believe that last year on this date we were in the lower 80s for highs. What a difference a year makes!
(back on topic now) As for the cold weather...
I had 23.2F on my thermometer and puddles were frozen over anywhere they were present this morning. Coldest of the winter (and of the last 5 years at IAH..which hit 26F) for sure!
Now that the cold is passing though, let's just hope this was our last blast of the season! I am now fully ready for spring and the warmth of highs back into the 70s and 80s!
BTW: It is hard to believe that last year on this date we were in the lower 80s for highs. What a difference a year makes!
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It went below freezing here about 10:30 last night. I let the dog out about 1am and saw a funny sight. when the wind would blow the Banana tree was stiff as a board! just before it got dark I went and looked at it, it's a dark green wet limp thing. On the good side all that clover that was growing in the yard looks the same way, all sick looking.
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For the hardiness of Norfolk Pine I'm just using personal observation. I remember there were a number of old ones that had survived at least the mid-20s in Cocoa Beach back in the late '80s. There were also lots of them around McAllen and Brownsville up until 1983, and they had had nothing lower than the mid-20s for 20+ years up until then. They also had no damage in the '04 snow in the Valley when temps dropped to 26-29. So I think the ones intown in Houston should be OK. It's those ultratender tropicals that are in trouble (hope you didn't leave any royal palms out!). I noticed where it dropped to about 23 in Jacksonville and Gainesville last night
For the hardiness of Norfolk Pine I'm just using personal observation. I remember there were a number of old ones that had survived at least the mid-20s in Cocoa Beach back in the late '80s. There were also lots of them around McAllen and Brownsville up until 1983, and they had had nothing lower than the mid-20s for 20+ years up until then. They also had no damage in the '04 snow in the Valley when temps dropped to 26-29. So I think the ones intown in Houston should be OK. It's those ultratender tropicals that are in trouble (hope you didn't leave any royal palms out!). I noticed where it dropped to about 23 in Jacksonville and Gainesville last night
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Johnny wrote:Any cold air in the long range or was this the grand finale?
Come on beach weather!
And some good news for us warm weather fans....the NWS has us hitting the mid 70's for highs starting Tuesday and going into the weekend!!
Well, Mr. Bastardi believes this coming week will be warm for us in the southern Plains followed by a weekend storm system (possible severe weather) and then a return to colder. How much colder? He hasn't indicated yet.
Last few GFS runs do show what looks like a full latitude trough moving west to east across the Plains next weekend which would support some of JB's ideas.
My sense is that this past week's cold temps won't be matched until next winter (if that). I'm with everyone else ... ready for spring, sunshine and warmer temps. Bring it on!!
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