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#241 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:51 pm

If I remember , 2005 was a neutral year, so we dont need a full blown la nina to have one heck of a season and 2004 actually went into a weak el nino near the end of the season
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#242 Postby x-y-no » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:05 am

Ivanhater wrote:If I remember , 2005 was a neutral year, so we dont need a full blown la nina to have one heck of a season and 2004 actually went into a weak el nino near the end of the season


Yes. In fact, for most of the 2005 season Nino 3,4 was about half a degree warm - still neutral but on the warm side.

As far as I'm aware, there's little difference between neutral and La Nina as far as the Atlantic season goes. It does have some impact on the EPAC season.
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#243 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:30 pm

Cooler than normal temps continue... looks like we'll definitely end up seeing the status turn to La Nina.

[web]http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data/anomnight.3.30.2007.gif[/web]
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#244 Postby AussieMark » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:43 pm

La Nina is still off

there has not been a single week where Nino 3.4 was in negatives yet.

and when it happens we need a 3 monthly average of -0.5 to be classed as La Nina
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#245 Postby wxman57 » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:44 am

Latest analysis/forecast is for a significant La Nina during July-August-September-October of 2007, in the range of -1.0 to -1.5. Regions 3-4 are now slightly cooler than normal and decreasing.

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And for those of you asking abour region 3.4 during 2005, here's the archived image:
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#246 Postby Aquawind » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:46 am

Wow.. That does take a significant dive durring the peak of cane season.
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#247 Postby P.K. » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:49 am

AussieMark wrote:La Nina is still off

there has not been a single week where Nino 3.4 was in negatives yet.

and when it happens we need a 3 monthly average of -0.5 to be classed as La Nina


Nino 3 dropped to -0.12C for a week in early March but rose back into positive figures after that. Nino 3.4 and 4 are still positive as you say to 25/3.
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#248 Postby cycloneye » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:43 pm

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The subsurface waters continue to be cool at El Nino 1-2 and 3 but more warm at El Nino 3-4.
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#249 Postby James » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:59 am

Based on the latest imagery it does look as though the cooler anomalies are continuing to creep slowly westward.
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#250 Postby cycloneye » Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:18 pm

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Here is the latest anomalies graphic of the Pacific and surely those cool waters at El Nino 1-2 and 3 are la Ninalike ones.But still west of that ,at El Nino 3-4 area not so cool waters prevail.
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#251 Postby cycloneye » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:02 am

CPC (Climate Prediction Center) April Update

The pattern of anomalous sea surface temperatures (SSTs) during March 2007 was consistent with ENSO-neutral conditions in the tropical Pacific, with average to slightly below-average SSTs extending from the date line to the west coast of South America (Fig. 1). The latest weekly SST departures are near 0ºC in the Niño 3.4 region, and below -0.5ºC in the Niño 3 and Niño 1+2 regions (Fig. 2). An area of anomalously warm SSTs persisted well west of the date line (near 165ºE), and an area of SSTs exceeding 30°C was centered between 150°E and 165°E.

Here is the April ENSO update from CPC.Above is a paragrafh of the update.Read all the details at link above.
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#252 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:22 am

This is not good from my POV. Every time Eastern New England and Western New Brunswick (usually hit after the first landfall around Cape Cod) has suffered a major hurricane hit in the past, it has been during a La Nina year (1954 with Carol and Edna springs at once to mind, as the last real major two storms). I'm rather worried now.
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#253 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:30 am

Strange I personally always counted on my maternal Grandmother's knowledge to pull me through any storm; she lived in the area for over 60 years. She died this winter. She told my stories about how bad Carol and Edna were, especially Edna. She claimed you could not imagine how bad it was it you hadn't went through it, and that no storms she could remember (winter or summer) could compare. How ironic it would be if the same thing happened this year, now that I don't have her memories to help me prepare.

Pardon my musings, just struck at cord.
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#254 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:16 am

Everything seems to indicate we will have an active season. Now it's the time to get ready, so nothing will be a surprise in August, September, or October.
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#255 Postby HouTXmetro » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:33 am

HURAKAN wrote:Everything seems to indicate we will have an active season. Now it's the time to get ready, so nothing will be a surprise in August, September, or October.


don't forget June and July
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#256 Postby cycloneye » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:37 am

HouTXmetro wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:Everything seems to indicate we will have an active season. Now it's the time to get ready, so nothing will be a surprise in August, September, or October.


don't forget June and July


He may be reffering to the most active part of the season.
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#257 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:38 am

HouTXmetro wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:Everything seems to indicate we will have an active season. Now it's the time to get ready, so nothing will be a surprise in August, September, or October.


don't forget June and July


I know, but June and July usually don't bring strong cyclones, except for 2005!!!
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#258 Postby P.K. » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:01 pm

cycloneye wrote:The latest weekly SST departures are near 0ºC in the Niño 3.4 region, and below -0.5ºC in the Niño 3 and Niño 1+2 regions (Fig. 2)


Agree with the Nino 3.4 value (BoM have it at +0.14C for the week 26/3/2007 to 1/4/2007), but I'm not sure where they are getting -0.5C from for Nino 3 as the BoM only have it at -0.11C for the same week as the previous value. That is quite a big difference there so one of them must be a little way out.

Latest Nino 1 ave is +0.55C with Nino 2 at -0.89C, maybe they've averagd over both regions there.
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#259 Postby Blown Away » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:15 pm

Currently we are transitioning from "neutral" to "La Nina" over the next few months. Let's say we are experiencing "La Nina" conditions come June, what is the average length of time for La Nina conditions?
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#260 Postby AussieMark » Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:22 pm

3 months till La Nina is a bit optimistic since Nino 3.4 has only had negative values for one week and that was like 2-3 weeks ago now.
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