EF5 Tornado levels Greensburg Kansas.

#241 Postby **MGC** » Sun May 06, 2007 4:32 pm

Fox News is calling the tornado an F-5. Don't know their source though....MGC

#242 Postby **Windy** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:00 pm

Yes, it's rated EF-5, as per the damage survey team's conclusion. Was announced a couple hours ago.

#243 Postby **vbhoutex** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:01 pm

I guess the question I have here is about how the storms are rated. Is it rated for the highest damage that is found vs the overall damage which could be less?

That is the hugest MONSTER TORNADO I have ever seen and I take nothing from it(basically the entire storm was the tornado), but the videos I have seen all seem to be EF4 damage. I know that some of the areas were literally swept clean, but definitely not all the areas. Just trying to understand.

My prayers go out to all those affected. I can not imagine trying to recover form a tragedy such as this.

#244 Postby **dizzyfish** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:11 pm

I heard about this earlier but just saw part of a report on tv. How awful!
I felt so bad for the guy that was walking around trying to find his pets.

My prayers to all those affected by this disaster.

#245 Postby **Windy** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:52 pm

vbhoutex wrote:I guess the question I have here is about how the storms are rated. Is it rated for the highest damage that is found vs the overall damage which could be less?

That is the hugest MONSTER TORNADO I have ever seen and I take nothing from it(basically the entire storm was the tornado), but the videos I have seen all seem to be EF4 damage. I know that some of the areas were literally swept clean, but definitely not all the areas. Just trying to understand.

My prayers go out to all those affected. I can not imagine trying to recover form a tragedy such as this.

If enough EF-5 indicators are found, it is rated EF-5 even if surrounding areas get less damage. Most of the trees in the area were denuded and some were actually debarked. The school damage apparently held a lot of weight; one of the NWS survey guys was raised by a bricklayer. The school was 100 years old and very, very well constructed with brick, and yet was still completely obliterated.

#246 Postby **simplykristi** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:59 pm

Windy,
That is what I read on Kansas City's online paper.

Kristi

Bunkertor · #247 Postby **Bunkertor** » Sun May 06, 2007 6:03 pm

Haven´t been on PC on Sat.

Are todays events new or is that the old system, having picked up new strength ?

ohiostorm · #248 Postby **ohiostorm** » Sun May 06, 2007 7:50 pm

Has anyone seen these???

http://www.kansas.com/static/slides/050 ... doaerials/

If this link has already been posted, feel free to delete this post.

Category 5 · #249 Postby **Category 5** » Sun May 06, 2007 8:16 pm

I saw a video on TWC of the tornado near Saint Johns Friday night. Absolutely frightening.

Category 5 · #250 Postby **Category 5** » Sun May 06, 2007 8:18 pm

VIDEO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRm4yu2MI-c

Category 5 · #251 Postby **Category 5** » Sun May 06, 2007 8:21 pm

1.7 miles wide??? Holy crap!

What was the widest on record?

Category 5 · #252 Postby **Category 5** » Sun May 06, 2007 8:31 pm

Any estimates on how high the winds were? Think they reached 300mph?

https://www.youtube.com/user/senorpepr · #253 Postby **senorpepr** » Sun May 06, 2007 8:32 pm

Category 5 wrote:1.7 miles wide??? Holy crap!

What was the widest on record?

The widest on record (2.5mi) is the Hallam, Nebraska, tornado of May 22, 2004.

The tornado was directed toward my home (but weakened well before it reached). Afterwards, I helped with the clean up effort. A very memorable event. I'll never forget the sites I saw the days afterwards.

#254 Postby **JonathanBelles** » Sun May 06, 2007 9:11 pm

Is there a way to save that video to my photobucket?

wxmann_91 · #255 Postby **wxmann_91** » Mon May 07, 2007 2:45 am

fact789 wrote:Is there a way to save that video to my photobucket?

Record it and then upload it. That's what I would do.

Most of the damage to Greensburg houses and buildings looks like low end EF4 at best. I think the school and the water tower (there have been many documented F5's before that have left water towers fairly unscathed) was the reason for the rating. Perhaps a suction vortex? Also there were some houses in rural areas that were nearly wiped clean and probably warranted a high EF4 rating at the least.

The tornado path ended 3 miles north of town, so I'm actually banking that the tornado was probably not at its peak when it hit Greensburg.

snoopj · #256 Postby **snoopj** » Mon May 07, 2007 11:17 am

I've gone over the Level II archives I have from the storm and it appears that the tornado may have actually been at it's most intense just before it hit Greensburg. At least from looking at the KDDC Level II archives.

--snoopj

southerngale · #257 Postby **southerngale** » Mon May 07, 2007 12:22 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:
fact789 wrote:Is there a way to save that video to my photobucket?
Record it and then upload it. That's what I would do.

Most of the damage to Greensburg houses and buildings looks like low end EF4 at best. I think the school and the water tower (there have been many documented F5's before that have left water towers fairly unscathed) was the reason for the rating. Perhaps a suction vortex? Also there were some houses in rural areas that were nearly wiped clean and probably warranted a high EF4 rating at the least.

The tornado path ended 3 miles north of town, so I'm actually banking that the tornado was probably not at its peak when it hit Greensburg.

Wouldn't this be EF5 though?

Just a slab and rubble remain where a house was destroyed by Friday night's tornado in Greensburg, Kansas.

TexasStooge · #258 Postby **TexasStooge** » Mon May 07, 2007 12:37 pm

The picture in the previous post kinda reminds me of the deadly F-5 tornado in Jarrell, TX.

snoopj · #259 Postby **snoopj** » Mon May 07, 2007 1:05 pm

southerngale wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:
fact789 wrote:Is there a way to save that video to my photobucket?
Record it and then upload it. That's what I would do.

Most of the damage to Greensburg houses and buildings looks like low end EF4 at best. I think the school and the water tower (there have been many documented F5's before that have left water towers fairly unscathed) was the reason for the rating. Perhaps a suction vortex? Also there were some houses in rural areas that were nearly wiped clean and probably warranted a high EF4 rating at the least.

The tornado path ended 3 miles north of town, so I'm actually banking that the tornado was probably not at its peak when it hit Greensburg.

Wouldn't this be EF5 though?

Just a slab and rubble remain where a house was destroyed by Friday night's tornado in Greensburg, Kansas.

I think that all depends on how well built the building was that used to be on that slab. Not just that an empty slab is there.

--snoopj

#260 Postby **P.K.** » Mon May 07, 2007 1:09 pm

vbhoutex wrote:I guess the question I have here is about how the storms are rated. Is it rated for the highest damage that is found vs the overall damage which could be less?

It is purely based on the highest level of damage found even if it only covers a small area of the damage.

Wow that is a large width and just about on par with the widest ever recorded in Europe (3,000m). :eek:

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