Should STS/SDS Andrea have ever been named?

[Hurricanehink]

I don't think the issue should be the naming of this system. No question that it met the parameters to be named.

The better question is - Why are we naming subtropical systems? Might as well put an asterisk by the numbers for every season before 2002, which then begs the question of what is a normal, numerical season.

Why were we not naming them? A large number of subtropical storms turn tropical, they have some characteristics of tropical storms and the old numbering system was downright confusing (1992 had STS1 then TD1 then TD2 before Andrew...)

Regarding 1992, the NHC got confused as well! They called TD 1 as the 2nd tropical depression of the year, and then called TD 2 the 2nd depression as well. I agree that it was a good move to combine tropical and subtropical names. Too confusing otherwise, and, as seen with Andrea, they can cause damage and deaths.

[Janie2006]

Well the question has to asked if the official naming of the system off the East Florida coast should have ever been done so in the first place.
All Andrea did has done is for a few days(yesterday and today) to lower the fire danger. However the fire danger will not lowered for long(and may even get worse due to no helpful rainfall were it was needed). The rains the area needed very badly DID NOT OCCUR AS WAS THE HOPE.
I think the folks at the NHC/TPC jumped the gun on a dying low pressure system and wanted to get a name in for funding reasons later on and to get some early media exposure ........
Rant ends now........

The TPC doesn't require media attention. The media follows practically everything they do anyway. Yes, the system should have been named...one can debate about the timing until next autumn. The fact of the matter is, storms like this do pose a threat to life and property. Someone could have easily drowned in the strong current and surf produced by Andrea. Marine interests are impacted. Furthermore, beach erosion is certainly a concern with systems like this. In naming the storm TPC was fulfilling its given mission. It seems to me that you are blaming the NHC for the lack of rainfall with Andrea.

[Hurricanehink]

Well the question has to asked if the official naming of the system off the East Florida coast should have ever been done so in the first place.
All Andrea did has done is for a few days(yesterday and today) to lower the fire danger. However the fire danger will not lowered for long(and may even get worse due to no helpful rainfall were it was needed). The rains the area needed very badly DID NOT OCCUR AS WAS THE HOPE.
I think the folks at the NHC/TPC jumped the gun on a dying low pressure system and wanted to get a name in for funding reasons later on and to get some early media exposure ........
Rant ends now........

The TPC doesn't require media attention. The media follows practically everything they do anyway. Yes, the system should have been named...one can debate about the timing until next autumn. The fact of the matter is, storms like this do pose a threat to life and property. Someone could have easily drowned in the strong current and surf produced by Andrea. Marine interests are impacted. Furthermore, beach erosion is certainly a concern with systems like this. In naming the storm TPC was fulfilling its given mission. It seems to me that you are blaming the NHC for the lack of rainfall with Andrea.

Someone did drown - a surfer died in the rough waves in Florida.

[Janie2006]

It seems to happen with every storm. Of course, most of the time you don't even need a storm.

If even one other life was saved, it was worth the effort.

[Steve]

No offense, but why a "rant"? People usually bag on the TPC for not naming systems. This was a subtropical/hybrid storm causing damage, wind and such and still remains off the FL coast today. Using your logic, "All it ever did..." and applying it to fish spinners would say that the NHC should not name anything that doesn't directly (and severely) impact the continental USA. It's not that big of a stretch to get from there to here.

But I'm particularly curious as to why you'd rap the TPC for naming the storm to increase funding. That's a rant straight out of Accuweather because they don't like the idea that they can't compete with a taxpayer funded and owned weather service (ref. 2005's attempted power grab through thankfully ex-Senator Santorum).

In my world, the NWS and NOAA should get all the funding they need. Look how far we've come in the last 25 years. No one (NO ONE) is better at doing this stuff than our public weather services. Sorry. But it sounds like you're working for Accuweather or someone else with a beef or at least spewing their company line. Look, I'm not out to bash them or anyone, I was a subscriber and appreciate their input sometimes. But I'm not buying the hype or lies they spread either.

Steve (> all)

[jinftl]

Exactly....all it has done is pour smoke from fires to our north down here....not a drop rain...just breezy and smoky

[jaxfladude]

More named storms(sub or fully tropical) means more funding......and yes I will take Accuweather over the NHC any day of the week....
Edit I will listen to Joe B. first and, well, just listen to Joe B.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

The nhc found a subtropical cyclone, they named it. If they would not of named it they would not be doing there job. As of right now sinces its tropical, overall it might deserve to be upgraded some what more. But hey its in the books, can't get mad or punch the wall. In Joe B is just some one with a option, the nhc is what you should listen to for offical stuff.

[Janie2006]

We're all free to listen to the NHC or ignore it (personally, I wouldn't ignore it), but there's a reason that NOAA employs some of the finest meterologists the country has to offer. Furthermore, no private wx company has the resources of NOAA. To a great extent, they all rely on the NWS and the NHC.

[DESTRUCTION5]

Umm..She should have been named a few times over.

[kevin]

More named storms(sub or fully tropical) means more funding......and yes I will take Accuweather over the NHC any day of the week....
Edit I will listen to Joe B. first and, well, just listen to Joe B.

This is a science not a popularity contest. If someone listens only to Joe B. -- however entertaining -- and they live within striking range of a tropical cyclone, then they're being foolish. Good luck!

[pojo]

For most of us, this is a hobby..let the experts do their job!!!

THANK YOU!