Tropical Depression Barry Main Thread

[Thunder44]

So this system mange to defy the odds and develop despite the hostile enviornment. Maybe this is an early sign that this season won't be anything like last season.

[SouthFloridawx]

So this system mange to defy the odds and develop despite the hostile enviornment. Maybe this is an early sign that this season won't be anything like last season.

Dun Dun Dun.....!

[cpdaman]

rain update

west boca (441/clintmoore) 1.8 inches of rain east boca (gf's) by beach/ palmetto 1.2 inches

[Opal storm]

So this system mange to defy the odds and develop despite the hostile enviornment. Maybe this is an early sign that this season won't be anything like last season.

We're just 1 day into the season and already we've had more excitement than the ENTIRE 2006 season. LOL

[Brent]

So this system mange to defy the odds and develop despite the hostile enviornment. Maybe this is an early sign that this season won't be anything like last season.

We're just 1 day into the season and already we've had more excitement than the ENTIRE 2006 season. LOL

[O Town]

So this system mange to defy the odds and develop despite the hostile enviornment. Maybe this is an early sign that this season won't be anything like last season.

We're just 1 day into the season and already we've had more excitement than the ENTIRE 2006 season. LOL

Yeah and we haven't had to deal with the numerous "season dead" threads.

[cycloneye]

Yeah and we haven't had to deal with the numerous "season dead" threads.

Maybe things will cool and they appear as nothing forms until mid August.

[Brent]

So this system mange to defy the odds and develop despite the hostile enviornment. Maybe this is an early sign that this season won't be anything like last season.

We're just 1 day into the season and already we've had more excitement than the ENTIRE 2006 season. LOL

Yeah and we haven't had to deal with the numerous "season dead" threads.

Just wait...

There were season dead threads in August of 2005.

Anyway, Barry looks be dying. Another name off the list though.

[jaxfladude]

Season cancel after Barry.....thanks for the rain as it was............365 until 2008 season........

[AnnularCane]

There's nothing else out there. SEASON CANCEL.

[windstorm99]

You can clearly see the naked circulation moveing more ENE at the moment...You guys agree?

Also this will most likely lose all its tropical characteristics by sometime tommorow morning if not earlier.

[Coredesat]

I have no earthly idea why this was named. This system is and never was anywhere near tropical; it always resembled a frontal system, and the center has always been exposed; last night the models were undecided on whether to consider it cold- or warm-core. SAB agrees with me:

01/2345 UTC 24.2N 85.1W TOO WEAK BARRY

Going back to the cyclone phase diagrams, this is what the latest model runs have initiated Barry as:

18Z GFS: asymmetric warm-core becoming frontal cold-core
18Z NAM: Doesn't pick it up. The NAM had this earlier today and last night. It has an asymmetric warm-core system forming in 18 hours off the coast of Florida.
18Z GFDL: Doesn't pick up the system, develops something over land in 24 hours
18Z UKMO: asymmetric warm-core
12Z CMC: symmetric warm-core
12Z NOGAPS: symmetric warm-core about to become asymmetric

[drezee]

I have no earthly idea why this was named. This system is and never was anywhere near tropical; it always resembled a frontal system, and the center has always been exposed; last night the models were undecided on whether to consider it cold- or warm-core. SAB agrees with me:

01/2345 UTC 24.2N 85.1W TOO WEAK BARRY

Going back to the cyclone phase diagrams, this is what the latest model runs have initiated Barry as:

18Z GFS: asymmetric warm-core becoming frontal cold-core
18Z NAM: Doesn't pick it up. The NAM had this earlier today and last night. It has an asymmetric warm-core system forming in 18 hours off the coast of Florida.
18Z GFDL: Doesn't pick up the system, develops something over land in 24 hours
18Z UKMO: asymmetric warm-core
12Z CMC: symmetric warm-core
12Z NOGAPS: symmetric warm-core about to become asymmetric

sorry, the recon dat does not lie...24C center with deep convection...it is what it is...

[artist]

I have no earthly idea why this was named. This system is and never was anywhere near tropical; it always resembled a frontal system, and the center has always been exposed; last night the models were undecided on whether to consider it cold- or warm-core. SAB agrees with me:

01/2345 UTC 24.2N 85.1W TOO WEAK BARRY

Going back to the cyclone phase diagrams, this is what the latest model runs have initiated Barry as:

18Z GFS: asymmetric warm-core becoming frontal cold-core
18Z NAM: Doesn't pick it up. The NAM had this earlier today and last night. It has an asymmetric warm-core system forming in 18 hours off the coast of Florida.
18Z GFDL: Doesn't pick up the system, develops something over land in 24 hours
18Z UKMO: asymmetric warm-core
12Z CMC: symmetric warm-core
12Z NOGAPS: symmetric warm-core about to become asymmetric

Recon went into the system today and found a closed circulation 50 knots at the surface, etc. Don't start questioning the pro's at this. Please

[windstorm99]

Very heavy cells to the west of keywest....

[Cyclenall]

I have no earthly idea why this was named. This system is and never was anywhere near tropical; it always resembled a frontal system, and the center has always been exposed; last night the models were undecided on whether to consider it cold- or warm-core. SAB agrees with me:

I have an idea, it's a little something called recon. Data doesn't lie.

[canegrl04]

Barry was just the warm up act for 2007.I think his short song and dance included a warning for us to don the crash helmets and fasten our seatbelts

[wjs3]

I have no earthly idea why this was named. This system is and never was anywhere near tropical; it always resembled a frontal system, and the center has always been exposed; last night the models were undecided on whether to consider it cold- or warm-core. SAB agrees with me:

01/2345 UTC 24.2N 85.1W TOO WEAK BARRY

Going back to the cyclone phase diagrams, this is what the latest model runs have initiated Barry as:

18Z GFS: asymmetric warm-core becoming frontal cold-core
18Z NAM: Doesn't pick it up. The NAM had this earlier today and last night. It has an asymmetric warm-core system forming in 18 hours off the coast of Florida.
18Z GFDL: Doesn't pick up the system, develops something over land in 24 hours
18Z UKMO: asymmetric warm-core
12Z CMC: symmetric warm-core
12Z NOGAPS: symmetric warm-core about to become asymmetric

sorry, the recon dat does not lie...24C center with deep convection...it is what it is...

Hey, I'm sorry, I really should ask this elsewhere, but the fact it's a 24 C center in and of itself does not mean warm core, right?

A warm core sytem has a center that's warmer than the environment, correct ?(subsidence warming, if my course work is coming back to me at all).

A 24 C center in a 26 C environment (stupid esample, but work with me) could be cold core, right? that's why in the VDM, the temperature outside and inside the center are reported, right?

I am NOT challenging the classificiation of the system--I am just trying to clarify for everyone what cold core and warm core mean.

Thanks

WJS3

[Coredesat]

I have no earthly idea why this was named. This system is and never was anywhere near tropical; it always resembled a frontal system, and the center has always been exposed; last night the models were undecided on whether to consider it cold- or warm-core. SAB agrees with me:

I have an idea, it's a little something called recon. Data doesn't lie.

I understand recon finding TS winds. I don't understand where they got "deep convection near the center" from. I didn't see any then and I don't see any now. I'm not bashing the recon or the pros.

[deltadog03]

there was deep convection that briefly pulled in the LLC! Now, the shear has quickly dissplaced that though!