Northern Plains Severe Weather - June 23
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CrazyC83 wrote:WindRunner wrote:CrazyC83 wrote:Yep, I think it will transition so that a good MCS will go through SE MB/N MN overnight. It is already starting to transition, as there are no tornado warnings at the moment but the southernmost cell I think could still put down a tornado easily as the radar shows. Although I doubt it would be as big as it could have been earlier.
I guess EC (Canada's NWS) does not have access to these systems.
What systems? They have their own radar, and it isn't like the NWS radar is hard to get, if that's what you're talking about . . .
I just think that EC wait for an amazing radar presentation or reports from the ground before warning . . . i.e. a radar-based warning is at least an F2, and anything weaker only gets a warning if reported. I know this isn't always true, but I remember them operating similar to that during last summer in southern Ontario . . .
I mean they may not have access to the GRLevelX that we have...they do have a tendancy to wait a lot for issuing warnings at times, but they do seem to be more liberal in issuing warnings in the Prairies than in Ontario. Some NWS offices do things differently as well.
True, true. GRX is some nice stuff . . . how about we make a deal where they set up their radars like the NWS and we give them free GRS products? I think everyone wins there . . .

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CrazyC83 wrote:Hearing unconfirmed reports Boissevain (population 1,400) was hit. Power out, fire trucks heading into town according to another site.
Well, I'm not suprised. The only plus side is that the cap DIDN'T break further south, or else we might have had 2 or 3 more stories like this one . . . I keep watching the warnings window just in case

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Re: Northern Plains Severe Weather - June 23
New hook coming off the orignial center cell . . . though the western cell has a nice couplet on it now, still about 17nm north of the border, but over an hour out. The Virden cell, however, has its hook only 12nm to the north of the border and could cross in about 45 minutes . . .
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Re: Northern Plains Severe Weather - June 23
WindRunner wrote:New hook coming off the orignial center cell . . . though the western cell has a nice couplet on it now, still about 17nm north of the border, but over an hour out. The Virden cell, however, has its hook only 12nm to the north of the border and could cross in about 45 minutes . . .
Yeah that cell is still hanging in there after all these hours...it may very well be crossing the border shortly...nice bow echo as well forming SE of Winnipeg headed towards N Minnesota...
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CrazyC83 wrote:Hearing unconfirmed reports Boissevain (population 1,400) was hit. Power out, fire trucks heading into town according to another site.
Hmm . . . I'll go ahead and debunk this for you . . . just found the Canadian city placefile on this computer, and Boissevain has yet to see a drop of rain. Maybe a lightning strike or a couple of outflow boundaries, but nothing worse. Of course, that second outflow boundary did knock the radar up to 15dbZ at one point, so that could be some crazy straight-line stuff . . . but I think that's a stretch. The western cell did pass 8nm to its north and is currently 14nm to its east, but nothing else has happened there.
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WindRunner wrote:CrazyC83 wrote:Hearing unconfirmed reports Boissevain (population 1,400) was hit. Power out, fire trucks heading into town according to another site.
Hmm . . . I'll go ahead and debunk this for you . . . just found the Canadian city placefile on this computer, and Boissevain has yet to see a drop of rain. Maybe a lightning strike or a couple of outflow boundaries, but nothing worse. Of course, that second outflow boundary did knock the radar up to 15dbZ at one point, so that could be some crazy straight-line stuff . . . but I think that's a stretch. The western cell did pass 8nm to its north and is currently 14nm to its east, but nothing else has happened there.
It could have been to the north along Highway 10.
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CrazyC83 wrote:WindRunner wrote:CrazyC83 wrote:Hearing unconfirmed reports Boissevain (population 1,400) was hit. Power out, fire trucks heading into town according to another site.
Hmm . . . I'll go ahead and debunk this for you . . . just found the Canadian city placefile on this computer, and Boissevain has yet to see a drop of rain. Maybe a lightning strike or a couple of outflow boundaries, but nothing worse. Of course, that second outflow boundary did knock the radar up to 15dbZ at one point, so that could be some crazy straight-line stuff . . . but I think that's a stretch. The western cell did pass 8nm to its north and is currently 14nm to its east, but nothing else has happened there.
It could have been to the north along Highway 10.
OK, that would be quite possible.
Pilot Mound (town of 700) could be about to get hit with some nasty hail and whatever is left of that main cell's tornado from earlier . . . and speaking of which, that cell just got our first SVR of the night for this set of storms - quarter hail, gusts to 70mph. Not the ordinary storm, but nothing spectacular . . .
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Re: Northern Plains Severe Weather - June 23
It's definately becoming less tornadic. Weaker as a whole, I don't know . . . maybe just beginning an evolution to linear, but I can't tell . . . can't see anything to its east, where the rest of the line would be taking shape. I can see the tops of the storms over SE of Winnipeg, but I doubt that those will be viewable from the regular range US-based radar for a while yet . . . they're heading into that gap around Lake of the Woods . . .
At this point, however, I'm really starting to doubt even the linear potential of this set, at least for now.
At this point, however, I'm really starting to doubt even the linear potential of this set, at least for now.
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New volume came in and it looks like crap . . . even the velocities. I doubt it turns into anything, too. Just not enough action to even get a line going. Decent cells north of Lake of the Woods and here, but those two groups alone are going to have some problems hooking up and getting anything started. I think its time to hit the sack and check back in the morning . . . see ya . . .
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Crazy, fire trucks are heading out of Boissevain, not into.
WR, make sure you leave a little time b/t saving and then opening another window. I've had that experience when saving a GR image. Wait until the whole thing saves before opening a new window, since apparently it takes time to save the screencapped image from the top down. If you open something else, the screencap will be of the something else for that brief instant it's still trying to save. I think.
WR, make sure you leave a little time b/t saving and then opening another window. I've had that experience when saving a GR image. Wait until the whole thing saves before opening a new window, since apparently it takes time to save the screencapped image from the top down. If you open something else, the screencap will be of the something else for that brief instant it's still trying to save. I think.
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Well, supposedly this story contains footage of the storm, though some of the video appears to be the storm from Friday, not yesterday. It does say three tornadoes, however, and that would be the total for Friday and Saturday, so I guess this covers it all. All in all, there are at least three different funnel shots in the story. Not bad for a storm in the empty plains . . .
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Re: Northern Plains Severe Weather - June 23
If you want to see a massive wedge from Manitoba yesterday, you got to check out tornadovideos.net. Incredible! It looks like great chase country up there.
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This "outbreak" really caught me by surprise. I've never seen this type of severe weather outbreak over there in years. That F4 tornado was quite something and I swear I have seen like over 6 different tornado videos so far from TWN alone
. I'm glad there is interest in chasing tornadoes out west and I wish I could have been there. It's insane how no one got hurt by that F4 that hit Eli Manitoba.
Today, just this evening I then saw new footage of this massive wedge tornado that hit and I couldn't believe it!! This is Canada. It looked like something from Kansas. The video footage was super awsome
. It looked like another F4 at least but EC is claiming it was just an F3. What an amazing event for Canadian weather! Tomorrow, it's our turn for the severe weather.

Today, just this evening I then saw new footage of this massive wedge tornado that hit and I couldn't believe it!! This is Canada. It looked like something from Kansas. The video footage was super awsome

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CrazyC83 wrote:New storm with doppler-indicated 80 mph gusts (but no tornado yet) headed towards Winnipeg (the big city in the area - population 720,000).
http://twister.sbs.ohio-state.edu/text/ ... WCN11.CWWG" target="_blank
I was on MSN last night with a Winnipeger whose power kept being cut off by lightning, surges.
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Cyclenall wrote:This "outbreak" really caught me by surprise. I've never seen this type of severe weather outbreak over there in years. That F4 tornado was quite something and I swear I have seen like over 6 different tornado videos so far from TWN alone. I'm glad there is interest in chasing tornadoes out west and I wish I could have been there. It's insane how no one got hurt by that F4 that hit Eli Manitoba.
Today, just this evening I then saw new footage of this massive wedge tornado that hit and I couldn't believe it!! This is Canada. It looked like something from Kansas. The video footage was super awsome. It looked like another F4 at least but EC is claiming it was just an F3. What an amazing event for Canadian weather! Tomorrow, it's our turn for the severe weather.
That F3 rating could be deceptive like we have seen with a number of other tornadoes this year. It didn't hit too much so there wasn't a lot of damage to assess it by. This was a classic setup quite similar to some of the spring outbreaks (fortunately, the cap held in the Dakotas or we would have an outbreak). It isn't common that the dryline makes it all the way to Manitoba though...
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CrazyC83 wrote:Cyclenall wrote:This "outbreak" really caught me by surprise. I've never seen this type of severe weather outbreak over there in years. That F4 tornado was quite something and I swear I have seen like over 6 different tornado videos so far from TWN alone. I'm glad there is interest in chasing tornadoes out west and I wish I could have been there. It's insane how no one got hurt by that F4 that hit Eli Manitoba.
Today, just this evening I then saw new footage of this massive wedge tornado that hit and I couldn't believe it!! This is Canada. It looked like something from Kansas. The video footage was super awsome. It looked like another F4 at least but EC is claiming it was just an F3. What an amazing event for Canadian weather! Tomorrow, it's our turn for the severe weather.
That F3 rating could be deceptive like we have seen with a number of other tornadoes this year. It didn't hit too much so there wasn't a lot of damage to assess it by. This was a classic setup quite similar to some of the spring outbreaks (fortunately, the cap held in the Dakotas or we would have an outbreak). It isn't common that the dryline makes it all the way to Manitoba though...
I agree, I believe EC may have just got that F3 rating from tornado damage that was from when the twister was a F3. It could have been a F4+ out in the field where we can't tell how powerful the winds were. I rarely see a F3 look like that though.
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