eerily calm in the west pac !!

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eerily calm in the west pac !!

#1 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:35 pm

Not sure whats going on but the West Pac has only had 2 systems in nearly 4 months.
last time it was like this was in 2005.
hmmm...

last storm
was march 31st kong-rey
and then may 15 was yutu

very slow over there .. its weird
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#2 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:44 pm

Not entirely, this sort of thing occasionally happens..

1998 Season is a good enough example, there they saw only 27 named storms, a rather low year for them and still they tied 2005 before the Un-named STS.


However, the 1998 ATL hurricane season was only fairly average statistically speaking, with 14 named storms. Of course, it was hardly an average season intensity wise, with over a 2-1 Hurricane ratio.

Unfortunately this included Hurricane Bonnie, Georges and Mitch.


Point being, slow WPAC Seasons don't actually mean another 2005. Sometimes these things happen.
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#3 Postby Berwick Bay » Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:52 pm

Could be very important piece of the puzzle. 2005, you say? Lets see what happens in our basin next month. As I recall, June 2005 ws not all that impressive (a weak storm named Arlene). Seems like it was July when all hell broke loose. Right now no one is calling for 07 to be similar to 05, if anything the professionals have backed off a little on their 07 numbers. In my heart of hearts I really think they just don't know what to make of this season. Not really looking for La Nina anymore, but as we've seen, neutral conditions can still bring out the worst in a basin. My hunch would be that those who originally predicted on the high end for 07 would be served better if they were just patient and didn't start a "rush on the bank" just yet. 07 may yet live up to all it was supposed to be, and more.
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Re: eerily calm in the west pac !!

#4 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:03 pm

2003 had an early start, then it was quiet in June and picked up again in July with Bill and Claudette.
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#5 Postby Chacor » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:06 pm

Why is everyone comparing WPac activity to Atlantic in terms of storms formed? They're not that comparable, given that in the WPac it's possible for a storm to form at any time of the year (usually March-January) v.s. normally June–November in Atlantic.
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#6 Postby Berwick Bay » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:38 pm

I'm sure you're right Chacor. In fact the lack of activity in the EPAC would be a much better indicator of activity in the Atlantic. But people here are frightened. 05 was a benchmark year. Anything that makes 07 look a little like 05 has people worried.
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Re: eerily calm in the west pac !!

#7 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:41 pm

Berwick Bay wrote:I'm sure you're right Chacor. In fact the lack of activity in the EPAC would be a much better indicator of activity in the Atlantic. But people here are frightened. 05 was a benchmark year. Anything that makes 07 look a little like 05 has people worried.


If the East Pacific is less active, than the Atlantic is more active. 2005 East Pacific was below average, while Atlantic was hyperactive. Well, the exception would be 1977, when all the basins were inactive due to a combination of coming off of a weak El Nino and weak monsoonal patterns in North America and Philippines and monsoon that is further south than usual in the Indian Ocean. Arizona had a dry summer and Philippines was very dry as well. EPAC and ATL had some of the least number of TS recorded in 1977.
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#8 Postby Chacor » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:41 pm

If you really want to compare:

By this time in 2005 we had four named storms in the WPac.

By this time last year we had one named storm and one depression (became named storm June 26) in the WPac.

This year is more like last year in the WPac.
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Re: eerily calm in the west pac !!

#9 Postby windstorm99 » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:45 pm

Peoples perspective was ruined with such an active season in 2005, now anything less than 20 is a quiet season.Numbers predicted are not important.Adrian :wink:
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Re: eerily calm in the west pac !!

#10 Postby 'CaneFreak » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:53 pm

Guys, Guys...he's simply saying that the last time it was this inactive in the west pac...there were a lot of storms in the Atlantic...he is not saying we are going to end up with another 2005!!!! Geez....give it a rest....
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#11 Postby Chacor » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:06 pm

No, my point is, that's wrong - the last time it was this inactive in the WPac we had only 10 storms in the Atlantic.
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Re: eerily calm in the west pac !!

#12 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:13 pm

Chacor's right. Besides, I don't think the number of Wpac storms has anything to do with the number of Atl storms. I mean they are literally across the planet.
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#13 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:27 pm

i was not comparing the basins just simply stating that .. its very slow in the west pac... not sure where all the comparing starting .. but i just found it rather intresting .. to see the west pac this slow again !!!

and just to clear this up wasn't 05 a neutral year? well some of it was right
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#14 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:29 pm

Yep, 2005 was a nuetral.
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Re: eerily calm in the west pac !!

#15 Postby Patrick99 » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:58 am

EPAC hasn't done much....some good looking cloud masses to my eye, but they haven't seemed to amount to anything.
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