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Re: SE TX / SW LA Discussion - Heavy Rain Threat

#221 Postby KatDaddy » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:32 pm

Its an accident or false report. No way this is for real. Could be the same guy the FBI has been looking for over the past few weeks. Someone is hacking into Government servers and issuing false reports.
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#222 Postby vbhoutex » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:03 pm

KatDaddy wrote:Its an accident or false report. No way this is for real. Could be the same guy the FBI has been looking for over the past few weeks. Someone is hacking into Government servers and issuing false reports.


Have to agree with you on this one for sure KD. Nothing has come through on any other warning system I am tied into. And the end of the text and the way it is worded is not normal either. In fact there are no identifiers in it that I can see that are normally there.

Jerks like that need to be locked up and the key thrown away!!!!
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#223 Postby southerngale » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:33 pm

Maybe it's true. We have a Special Weather Statement out over here for tropical funnel clouds.

Btw, it was just pouring here again!
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#224 Postby jasons2k » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:57 pm

Hey David,

I didn't grab the headers as I pasted it from GR3.

I did hear on the radio on the way home there was a Tornado Warning for Galveston county.

It didn't look like on radar the warning was warranted but the warning text says it was reported by Law Enforcement. It is odd that it said the storm was moving SE.

Anyway, here is the text of the full message, with headers for anyone interested:

http://kamala.cod.edu/offs/KHGX/0707052108.wfus54.html

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WFUS54 KHGX 052108
TORHGX
TXC167-052145-
/O.NEW.KHGX.TO.W.0017.070705T2108Z-070705T2145Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED

TORNADO WARNING

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
408 PM CDT THU JUL 5 2007

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LEAGUE CITY HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
GALVESTON COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS

* UNTIL 445 PM CDT

* AT 406 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO. THE STORM IS MOVING SOUTHEAST AT 30 MPH. LAW ENFORCEMENT REPORTED A TORNADO ON THE GROUND NEAR I-45 AND TEICHMAN ROAD. PLEASE REPORT SEVERE WEATHER TO THE COUNTY SHERIFF...LOCAL POLICE... OR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THEY WILL RELAY YOUR REPORT TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.

LAT...LON 2930 9482 2932 9488 2925 9494 2923 9485
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#225 Postby jasons2k » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:25 pm

Interesting, there have been two more additional tornado warnings for Galveston County in the last hour and another one for Liberty/Harris/Chambers north of Baytown...
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#226 Postby jasons2k » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:31 pm

WOW - Live footage on Fox 26 of the current funnel cloud!!

The one at 4PM was indeed real! It touched-down and caused damage to a car dealership.
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#227 Postby KatDaddy » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:24 pm

Wow it must be very isolated jschlitz. Thats crazy. The NWS radar did not have a blip.
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#228 Postby JenBayles » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:32 pm

I've seen funnel clouds form like that down on the coast before. Not a drop of rain around, but a cloud produces a little funnel.

Back in the early 1980's during one of our more typical, cloudless, stiflling hot summer afternoons, a small cumulus cloud formed around Katy. One cloud, and not a large one. Just your typical summer cumulus. A freakin' funnel formed out of it! Everyone at work emptied out and watched it go up and down for about 10 minutes until the whole thing, cloud and all, disappeared like it never existed. One of the news channels got video of it and aired it on the evening news so at least we didn't all feel like it was a mass hallucination. Bizarre! :lol:
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#229 Postby jasons2k » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:31 pm

They showed some video footage of it and it was a pretty stout looking waterspout. As it moved onto land it hit the Sand Dollar dealership complex.
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#230 Postby vbhoutex » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:37 pm

Yeh, I saw some of that live footage too. Wild!! Glad we got that figured out. I kinda did once I got home and found the emergency email notifications
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#231 Postby jasons2k » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:07 pm

Interesting - on the whole Proenza topic, Fox 26 will have a story on this tonight - the teaser said 'A storm is brewing at the NHC as the Director says the agency may not be prepared for the next Rita'.
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Re: SE TX / SW LA Discussion - Heavy Rain Threat

#232 Postby Ptarmigan » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:52 pm

000
FXUS64 KHGX 060202
AFDHGX

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
902 PM CDT THU JUL 5 2007

.AVIATION...
WITH THE UPPER LOW TO THE NORTH OF SE TX...THERE LOOKS TO BE LESS
OF A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS TONIGHT AND TOMORROW OVER THE
TERMINAL SITES. HOWEVER...THE NAM AND GFS BOTH INDICATED MESOSCALE
LIFT MAINLY OVER THE NORTHWESTERN PORTIONS OF THE AREA OVERNIGHT
TONIGHT. AS OF 0130Z THE BEST CONVECTIVE AREAS HAVE BEEN JUST OFF
THE TEXAS COAST. THE WATER VAPOR SATELLITE LOOP INDICATED A
SHORTWAVE TROUGH TO BE ENTERING THE HOUSTON METRO AREA WITH
ANOTHER SHORTWAVE UPSTREAM OVER FAR S TX. THIS SECOND SHORTWAVE
MAY BE THE ONE THE MODELS WERE PINGING ON. THAT SAID...BROUGHT
THE BEST CHANCES FOR MVFR CEILINGS AND RESTRICTIONS TO VISIBILITY
DUE MAINLY TO SHOWERS OR THUNDERSTORMS BETWEEN 04Z AND 08Z AT CLL
WITH ONLY A MENTION OF VCTS ELSEWHERE DURING THIS TIME PERIOD. THE
REMAINDER OF THE NIGHT WILL SEE MAINLY VFR CONDITIONS WITH A HINT
AT MVFR DUE TO LIGHT RAIN. WENT WITH ONLY A VCTS MENTION AFTER
14Z FROM I-10 SOUTH AND 17Z IN THE NORTH SINCE THE CONVECTIVE
ACTIVITY SHOULD BE LESS WITH THE UPPER LOW MOVING OUT OF THE AREA.

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.DISCUSSION...

Link

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Looks like we could see some storms tonight because the shortwace trough is moving towards the Houston area.

Here are QPF models. Not looking good for us.
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Re: SE TX / SW LA Discussion - Heavy Rain Threat

#233 Postby crazycajuncane » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:55 am

Quote the local weather team at KLFY:

Live Doppler 10 Forecast
Showers and thunderstorms remain in the forecast for the short-term, but somewhat drier air is on target for later in the weekend and early next week. Tonight we'll see mostly cloudy skies with a shower or thunderstorm possible. More showers and thunderstorms will be scattered across the area Friday, with a little sun mixing in at times. The threat of rain drops over the weekend, but a few isolated showers and storms are still possible.

Now go check out a radar and tell me that's just one shower or thunderstorm in my backyard! It seems they are having a hard time getting a grip on when these disturbances are moving in and how strong they are.
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#234 Postby southerngale » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:04 am

Flooding in Beaumont. Jefferson and southern Orange counties are under the gun with training rains moving from west to east. :eek:

And just like previous days (getting kinda weird as I woke up at about 6am this morning by thunder and heavy rain - exact same time as yesterday)...

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=LCH&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes


FLASH FLOOD WARNING
TXC245-361-061815-

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
FLASH FLOOD WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAKE CHARLES LA
918 AM CDT FRI JUL 6 2007

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LAKE CHARLES HAS ISSUED A

* FLASH FLOOD WARNING FOR...
JEFFERSON COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...SABINE PASS...PORT NECHES...PORT
ARTHUR...NEDERLAND...HAMSHIRE...GROVES...CENTRAL GARDENS...
BEAUMONT...
SOUTHERN ORANGE COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...WEST ORANGE...VIDOR...ORANGE...BRIDGE
CITY...

* UNTIL 115 PM CDT

* AT 918 AM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED
FLASH FLOODING FROM A LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS MOVING ACROSS
JEFFERSON COUNTY AND SOUTHERN ORANGE COUNTIES IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS.
THIS LINE OF STORMS IS PRODUCING FROM AROUND TWO INCHES OF
RAINFALL PER HOUR AND WITH THE RECENT RAINS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL
DAYS THIS WILL CAUSE FLOODING ON STREETS AND OVERPASSES AND AREAS
OF POOR DRAINAGE.

* LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
BEAUMONT... ORANGE...AND ROSE CITY.

EXCESSIVE RUNOFF FROM HEAVY RAINFALL WILL CAUSE FLOODING OF SMALL
CREEKS AND STREAMS...URBAN AREAS...HIGHWAYS...STREETS AND UNDERPASSES
AS WELL AS OTHER DRAINAGE AREAS AND LOW LYING SPOTS.

LAT...LON 2958 9435 2968 9407 2969 9386 2973 9390
2978 9395 2985 9396 2997 9386 3001 9377
3007 9372 3017 9371 3016 9423 3010 9434
3005 9437

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#235 Postby southerngale » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:55 am

I'm guessing the forecasters are really having trouble forecasting this mess. We had the lowest rain chances today, at 50%, and it was supposed to be more widespread. They have since upped that to 80% and it's been training over the same areas for hours. I read the overnight discussions and didn't expect this. Flash flood warnings for Jefferson County, Orange County, Chambers County, Galveston County, and Calcasieu Parish and if the trend continues, that could be expanded to include more counties.



AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAKE CHARLES LA
1001 AM CDT FRI JUL 6 2007

.UPDATE...STRONG LOW LEVEL CONVERGENCE ALONG THE UPPER TEXAS
COAST/SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA RESULTING IN CONSIDERABLE COASTAL
SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORMS ACTIVITY. INCOMING WEST GULF HIGH AND
ACCOMPANYING STEERING WINDS PARALLELING CONVERGENCE ZONE BRINGING
TRAINING CONVECTION. URBAN AND SMALL STREAM FLOOD ADVISORIES
ISSUED EARLIER THIS MORNING...NOW FLASH FLOOD WARNINGS FOR ORANGE
AND JEFFERSON COUNTIES OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS.

EXPECTING/HOPING FOR A GRADUAL DECREASE IN INTENSITY OF STORMS AS
NOCTURNAL JETTING WEAKENS...WITH A GRADUAL NORTHWARD PROGRESSION OF
RAINS AS AFOREMENTIONED HIGH BUILDS IN. WILL BUMP POPS UP TO
CATEGORICAL AREA-WIDE IN UPCOMING UPDATE.
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Re: SE TX / SW LA Discussion - Heavy Rain Threat

#236 Postby Ptarmigan » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:11 am

It comes to show how hard it is to predict heavy rain events.
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#237 Postby jasons2k » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:28 am

Looks like another line is setting up NW of the current line - through Houston itself
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#238 Postby CajunMama » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:46 am

and lafayette parish isn't getting squat!

Jen & Lisa...your bear creek dome has nothing on the lafayette parish dome. :lol: The rain starts at the northern parish line, redevelop on the eastern parish line. Lafayette parish is outlined by rain and nothing going on within the parish.
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#239 Postby southerngale » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:51 am

I'd share with you if I could.

The training line is growing to the west and I see no end in sight. It's raining hard, with lots of thunder and lightning.

It's very dark here... looks like night. Image
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#240 Postby jasons2k » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:23 pm

On GR3 I can see two outflow boundries - one from the south and one from the north - colliding right over Houston metro right now - looks like some quick development over the next hour or so right over us.
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