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Re: Signs of change from models

#41 Postby jaxfladude » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:17 pm

Jaxfladude says; "At least I am not the CMC model in the flesh!" :lol:
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#42 Postby Meso » Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:02 am

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Re: Signs of change from models

#43 Postby Frank2 » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:58 am

It's never a good idea to put much in the long-range GFS runs - as others said, systems appear and disappear just as quickly...

It seems the pattern of troughs in the northeast continues, at least for now - highs in the moutains of northeast Georgia are only to be in the 70s the next few days...
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#44 Postby Aquawind » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:13 am

Yes it's showing some low pressures holding together longer after they exit the African coast alrighty. THe GFS is looking like it is responding just like it does every year around this time. We will be watching something pretty soon and yes it could be one of those lows.. :wink:
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#45 Postby boca » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:19 am

Even if something where to develop it would most likely be a fish because of the persistent trough in the East. If this pattern continues thru August we might be lucky in regards of being protected, unlike 2004 and 2005.
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Re: Signs of change from models

#46 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:04 pm

18z GFS

:uarrow: :uarrow:

I know that looking 16 days ahead is the worse thing to do in terms of seeing a model with a scenario of developing systems that far out.However,you can see patterns change in these long range runs.For example,the highs of Bermuda and Azores are not strong in the next 2 weeks according to the long range.
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Re: Signs of change from models

#47 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:44 pm

cycloneye wrote:18z GFS

:uarrow: :uarrow:

I know that looking 16 days ahead is the worse thing to do in terms of seeing a model with a scenario of developing systems that far out.However,you can see patterns change in these long range runs.For example,the highs of Bermuda and Azores are not strong in the next 2 weeks according to the long range.



Since the highs of Bermuda are not strong, does this mean that there will be more trof's over the east coast? Im not good at reading the model maps sorry.

<RICKY>
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Re: Signs of change from models

#48 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:54 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:
cycloneye wrote:18z GFS

:uarrow: :uarrow:

I know that looking 16 days ahead is the worse thing to do in terms of seeing a model with a scenario of developing systems that far out.However,you can see patterns change in these long range runs.For example,the highs of Bermuda and Azores are not strong in the next 2 weeks according to the long range.



Since the highs of Bermuda are not strong, does this mean that there will be more trof's over the east coast? Im not good at reading the model maps sorry.

<RICKY>


Ricky,what I mean't strong high pressures are from 1028 mbs+.According to the long range,the highs are going to be around the 1022mbs-1026 mbs range,less strong but sufficient to not let a system go fishing away.In terms of an east coast trough,still it's early to say that it will be absent or not as the patterns change constantly.
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Re: Signs of change from models

#49 Postby margaritabeach » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:21 pm

rookie question:

How do you read the strengths of the lows the models show? This is from the 18z GFS 3 days out. Thanks!!

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#50 Postby wobblehead » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:19 pm

Please refer to forum rules regarding this post.

All conditons considered I feel fairly confident we will see some activity within the next week.
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#51 Postby Meso » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:51 am

I know models aren't reliable far out,but it's always interesting to watch what they show,since some of them DO come true..

GFS @ 300 hours : Image
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GFS @ 384 hours : Image
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Re: Signs of change from models

#52 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:54 am

12z GFS Loop

:uarrow:

Give me other model inputs (NOGAPS,CMC,UKMET,EURO) like this GFS one and we will have game on in the Atlantic.
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Re: Signs of change of models=12z GFS shows two developing lows

#53 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:05 pm

I think the big reason for the change to the GFS was the fact that it was initialized with the low already in place! which is different from some of the previous runs

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Re: Signs of change of models=12z GFS shows two developing lows

#54 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:37 pm

Is the first time that a model has a low moving all the way from the Central Atlantic to the East coast of the U.S.The other low that appears is almost at the end of the loop and that one goes to fish.

However,to believe that far out 16 days is like the Kansas City Royals winning the World Series. :)
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Re: Signs of change of models=12z GFS shows two developing lows

#55 Postby caneman » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:43 pm

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#56 Postby dwg71 » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:44 pm

I can tell we are bored.

There will be something sooner or later, nothing on the horizon yet.
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#57 Postby Meso » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:50 pm

What.... ? There is a good looking tropical wave out in the Atlantic which numerous models have been showing some development for a while.... Saying "nothing on the horizon" is not what I'd be saying... things are definitely worth keeping a close eye on
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#58 Postby skysummit » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:55 pm

Meso wrote:What.... ? There is a good looking tropical wave out in the Atlantic which numerous models have been showing some development for a while.... Saying "nothing on the horizon" is not what I'd be saying... things are definitely worth keeping a close eye on


Yea...some are bored until there's a Cat 3 out there. Others just enjoy studying the tropics.
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Re: Signs of change of models=12z GFS,CMC runs posted

#59 Postby caneman » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:58 pm

yep, hardly boring. First model agreement I believe we've seen out there.
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Re: Signs of change from the global models

#60 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:37 pm

12z NOGAPS

:uarrow:

Hello to NOGAPS that joins the combo :) ,although it only hints at something in that area,not shows a definitive thing developing.Let's see the 00z run from this always less agressive model to see if it still hints at something.
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