Did Peru take over the NHC?!?!? 98L is now LIMA!!!
Invest 98L in Western Atlantic
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HurricaneRobert
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic
I think it looked like a lima bean earlier today. Since we've only gotten oddly-shaped storms this season, I think we should name them after what they look like.
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic
Steve Lyon called it a giant shrimp
Haul that thing in and take it to Red Lobster
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- cycloneye
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT CORRECTED 291200Z JUL 07//
WTNT 21 KNGU 291200 COR
REF/A/RMG/NAVLANTMETOCCEN NORFOLK VA/291200Z JUL 07//
AMPN/REF IS TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT (WTNT21 KNGU 291200)//
RMKS/
1. FORMATION OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE WITHIN
100 NM EITHER SIDE OF A LINE FROM 30.0N 73.5W TO 34.5N 70.6W
WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. AVAILABLE DATA DOES NOT JUSTIFY
ISSUANCE OF NUMBERED TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNINGS AT THIS TIME.
WINDS IN THE AREA ARE ESTIMATED TO BE 10 TO 20 KNOTS. METSAT IM-
AGERY AT 291200Z INDICATES THAT A CIRCULATION CENTER IS LOCATED
NEAR 30.0N 73.5W. THE SYSTEM IS MOVING NORTHEASTWARD AT 10
KNOTS.
2. REMARKS:
THIS SUPERSEDES REF A.
3. THIS ALERT WILL BE REISSUED, UPGRADED TO WARNING OR CANCELLED BY 301200Z.
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A Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert statement has been issued.Track map below.

WTNT 21 KNGU 291200 COR
REF/A/RMG/NAVLANTMETOCCEN NORFOLK VA/291200Z JUL 07//
AMPN/REF IS TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT (WTNT21 KNGU 291200)//
RMKS/
1. FORMATION OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE WITHIN
100 NM EITHER SIDE OF A LINE FROM 30.0N 73.5W TO 34.5N 70.6W
WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. AVAILABLE DATA DOES NOT JUSTIFY
ISSUANCE OF NUMBERED TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNINGS AT THIS TIME.
WINDS IN THE AREA ARE ESTIMATED TO BE 10 TO 20 KNOTS. METSAT IM-
AGERY AT 291200Z INDICATES THAT A CIRCULATION CENTER IS LOCATED
NEAR 30.0N 73.5W. THE SYSTEM IS MOVING NORTHEASTWARD AT 10
KNOTS.
2. REMARKS:
THIS SUPERSEDES REF A.
3. THIS ALERT WILL BE REISSUED, UPGRADED TO WARNING OR CANCELLED BY 301200Z.
//
A Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert statement has been issued.Track map below.

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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic
cycloneye wrote:SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT CORRECTED 291200Z JUL 07//
WTNT 21 KNGU 291200 COR
REF/A/RMG/NAVLANTMETOCCEN NORFOLK VA/291200Z JUL 07//
AMPN/REF IS TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT (WTNT21 KNGU 291200)//
RMKS/
1. FORMATION OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE WITHIN
100 NM EITHER SIDE OF A LINE FROM 30.0N 73.5W TO 34.5N 70.6W
WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. AVAILABLE DATA DOES NOT JUSTIFY
ISSUANCE OF NUMBERED TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNINGS AT THIS TIME.
WINDS IN THE AREA ARE ESTIMATED TO BE 10 TO 20 KNOTS. METSAT IM-
AGERY AT 291200Z INDICATES THAT A CIRCULATION CENTER IS LOCATED
NEAR 30.0N 73.5W. THE SYSTEM IS MOVING NORTHEASTWARD AT 10
KNOTS.
2. REMARKS:
THIS SUPERSEDES REF A.
3. THIS ALERT WILL BE REISSUED, UPGRADED TO WARNING OR CANCELLED BY 301200Z.
//
A Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert statement has been issued.Track map below.
http://www.storm2k.org/wx/index.php
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic=TCFA issued
Does a TCFA mean that formation
is much more likely than before?
is much more likely than before?
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- hurricanefloyd5
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic=TCFA issued
You think SubTropicalStorm CHANTAL will form????????????
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- cycloneye
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic=TCFA issued
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:Does a TCFA mean that formation
is much more likely than before?
It's not a given when you see these alerts that a system will develop.I think they are issuing this for marine interests as Bermuda is close.
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TWD 205:
...SPECIAL FEATURE...
SURFACE TROUGH IS LOCATED FROM 32N71W TO 28N72W 25N74W.
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS HAVE NOT BECOME ANY BETTER ORGANIZED
TODAY. THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS SOME POTENTIAL FOR TROPICAL OR
SUBTROPICAL DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO AS IT MOVES
NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD AT 10-15 KT. SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION
IS MOSTLY E OF THE TROUGH AXIS FROM 24N-32N BETWEEN 67W-71W.
That doesn't sound right.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MI ... 1716.shtml?
...SPECIAL FEATURE...
SURFACE TROUGH IS LOCATED FROM 32N71W TO 28N72W 25N74W.
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS HAVE NOT BECOME ANY BETTER ORGANIZED
TODAY. THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS SOME POTENTIAL FOR TROPICAL OR
SUBTROPICAL DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO AS IT MOVES
NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD AT 10-15 KT. SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION
IS MOSTLY E OF THE TROUGH AXIS FROM 24N-32N BETWEEN 67W-71W.
That doesn't sound right.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MI ... 1716.shtml?
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- alan1961
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic=TCFA issued
hurricanefloyd5 wrote:You think SubTropicalStorm CHANTAL will form????????????
It looks like Lima
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- AnnularCane
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic=TCFA issued
I'm not even sure that's the right picture. I saw the invest on the floater a little while ago and it looked like it had more convection than that.
Anyway, it seems to have been removed from the NHC site. Every Atlantic floater is "not active" right now.
Anyway, it seems to have been removed from the NHC site. Every Atlantic floater is "not active" right now.
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic=TCFA issued
This thing looks more like a cold front than a tropical system.
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Umm... guys? Check this out:

Lima?
NRL: http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/tc_home.html
EDIT: Oops, didn't notice it's already been said. Oh well.

Lima?
NRL: http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/tc_home.html
EDIT: Oops, didn't notice it's already been said. Oh well.
Last edited by RattleMan on Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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PSYCH
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1130 AM EDT SUN JUL 29 2007
FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...
THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...LOCATED ABOUT 400 MILES NORTHEAST OF
THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS...HAS NOT BECOME ANY BETTER ORGANIZED THIS
MORNING. THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS SOME POTENTIAL FOR TROPICAL OR
SUBTROPICAL DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO AS IT MOVES
NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH.
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1130 AM EDT SUN JUL 29 2007
FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...
THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...LOCATED ABOUT 400 MILES NORTHEAST OF
THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS...HAS NOT BECOME ANY BETTER ORGANIZED THIS
MORNING. THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS SOME POTENTIAL FOR TROPICAL OR
SUBTROPICAL DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO AS IT MOVES
NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH.
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miamicanes177
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic
yeh lima must be their code word for testcycloneye wrote:Lima?
It's obvious a oopsor another test?
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- P.K.
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic=TCFA issued
My guess is Lima is just the phonetic alphabet word for the letter L and it has ended up down as the "name" for some reason.
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- wxman57
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic=TCFA issued
Opal storm wrote:This thing looks more like a cold front than a tropical system.
Good observation (Tampa Bay, too). It does look like it's becoming part of the surface trof/old frontal boundary off the east U.S. coast. Below is an 18Z plot. Not that pressures in the region are closer to 1013-1014mb, not the 1009 mb pressures that the models were initialized with. No evidence of any LLC, just a comma-shaped frontal appearance. Very slim chance of development. I'd suggest looking elsewhere for Chantal.

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