INVEST 99L,East of Windwards

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#141 Postby WmE » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:07 pm

Cyclone1 wrote:So is it TD3?


No it isn't.
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#142 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:07 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:
Ed Mahmoud wrote:Is SAL figured for in SHIPS? Because SHIPS has a strong T.S. in 72 hours.

SHIPS forecasts every Invest to become a strong TS.


Not true- one of the things I have noticed that a good sign that something won't develop is an invest initialized as a 25 knot depression that is a 35 knot T.S. in 72 hours. I don't know if SHIPS looks at SAL or not, but it does seem to me, as an uneducated but interested amateur, to have some utility.
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#143 Postby Cyclone1 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:08 pm

WmE wrote:
Cyclone1 wrote:So is it TD3?


No it isn't.


Ok, just wondering because the thing on the prev. page said "tropical depression invest 99L".
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#144 Postby ronjon » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:10 pm

Boy, GFDL really blows it up..985 mb..I know that's not at the surface but looks stronger than SHIPS - further north than the BAMs by about 2 deg
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#145 Postby windstorm99 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:11 pm

ronjon wrote:Boy, GFDL really blows it up..985 mb..I know that's not at the surface but looks stronger than SHIPS - further north than the BAMs by about 2 deg


Yep...Brings it to a hurricane.
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#146 Postby gatorcane » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:12 pm

fox13weather wrote:long range GFS models show a couple of days of ridging before the east coast trough redevelops early next week


that would mean watch out SE coast of US including Florida... :eek:
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#147 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:13 pm

Note to everyone: While I do think that there is some potential for this disturbance to develop over the coming week, unless convection persists another 24-48 hours that chance of development is not going to be high. I'd estimate maybe a 20% shot right now. That's an 80% chance nothing comes of it. We see many such disturbances in the tropical Atlantic each season, and most do not develop. So just keep an eye on it for now. The NHC will almost certainly do nothing with it until if and when recon investigates on Wednesday afternoon.
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#148 Postby windstorm99 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:18 pm

Not much on the 2:05.
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#149 Postby dwg71 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:20 pm

I think the next 24 hours will tell us if we have a player. Right now, I give 10-20% of development. Dry air and shear will be factors to deal with.
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#150 Postby Berwick Bay » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:26 pm

While I would love to dust off my Berwick Model (been two years) there's just not enough yet to go on with this system. We at least need some intialization and there is still some uncertainty about the ridge to the north going out seven days or so. So I wait. But I will throw this possibility out, how about upgrade to depression on Aug 1st. Some others predicted that date several weeks ago. This season looks to be coming into focus right on schedule. Our first legit trop storm was on June 1st (and please don't argue with the NHC designation of trop storm for Barry--okay argue if you must, but I believe it was legit), and now perhaps our "heart of the season" depression on Aug 1st.
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#151 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:30 pm

It is very early to tell where anything like this can go. Everyone on the Venezuela to New England should be watching this closely, though it hasent developed yet i give it a 40% of developing, maybe 10% of that is on hope. :lol: but this really seem to have the potiental and as Wxman57 has said, "persistance is key".
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#152 Postby Blown Away » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:35 pm

ronjon wrote:Boy, GFDL really blows it up..985 mb..I know that's not at the surface but looks stronger than SHIPS - further north than the BAMs by about 2 deg

Can you provide the link. TY
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#153 Postby skysummit » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:35 pm

Blown_away wrote:
ronjon wrote:Boy, GFDL really blows it up..985 mb..I know that's not at the surface but looks stronger than SHIPS - further north than the BAMs by about 2 deg

Can you provide the link. TY



Look back in the thread....an image was posted.
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#154 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:35 pm

I think 40% is a good probability of development for this system as of right now. We'll see over the next 24 hours if it can fight off that dry air which is my biggest concern regarding development right now. If it's still around tomorrow and continuing to improve in appearance I'd think we'll have Chantal by Wednesday/Thursday. If this sytem sets up with a W-WNW track through the caribbean in a few days I will begin to become very concerned about possible gulf coast impacts. We shall see.
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#155 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:36 pm

Weatherfreak14 wrote:Everyone from Venezuela to New England should be watching this closely


Fixed your post
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#156 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:37 pm

RL3AO wrote:
Weatherfreak14 wrote:Everyone from Venezuela to New England should be watching this closely


Fixed your post


Ok, thats alot better and i pretty much ment to say that.!!!
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#157 Postby HouTXmetro » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:38 pm

Does anyone remember Tropical Storm Earl a few years back.. He was in the same area and looked to be a GOM threat. BUT WENT........*POOF
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#158 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:39 pm

This wave/developing weak low may have a similar evolution to Chantal... the 2001 version that is
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#159 Postby dixiebreeze » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:42 pm

Dvorak:
DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
30/1745 UTC 9.8N 48.7W TOO WEAK 99L

TAFB says 1011 low in 48 hrs E. of the islands.
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Re: INVEST 99L: 11:30 TWO says 'slow development possible'

#160 Postby ronjon » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:45 pm

Blown_away wrote:
ronjon wrote:Boy, GFDL really blows it up..985 mb..I know that's not at the surface but looks stronger than SHIPS - further north than the BAMs by about 2 deg

Can you provide the link. TY


Upon your request.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2.cgi?time=2007073012-invest99l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation
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