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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#161 Postby Cyclone1 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:02 am

gatorcane wrote:shows over? Well I will have to disagree with you....if it doesn't develop into a depression by reaching the caribbean I'd say it is over at least for the next several days.

But I do agree with you the EPAC is where the real action is (as usual) :roll:


You all do see the tropical storm east of Massachusetts right? Plenty enough action for me.
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#162 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:02 am

31/1145 UTC 10.8N 50.0W T1.0/1.0 99L -- Atlantic Ocean
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#163 Postby RL3AO » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:03 am

I'll take 15 Chantal's and be happy. :D
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#164 Postby RL3AO » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:03 am

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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#165 Postby x-y-no » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:06 am

Derek Ortt wrote:shows over folks

if you want to see what a real developing storm looks like... look at the EPAC disturbance near 120W

Time to finish my M.S. Thesis draft by this afternoon


Huh ... I think that may be a bit premature. I'd agree it isn't going to do much of anything today though, so you're most profitably employed working on your thesis.

If it doesn't fall apart in the next 36 hours or so, then it's getting over some warmer water and might have a shot again, IMHO.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#166 Postby skysummit » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:07 am

x-y-no wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:shows over folks

if you want to see what a real developing storm looks like... look at the EPAC disturbance near 120W

Time to finish my M.S. Thesis draft by this afternoon


Huh ... I think that may be a bit premature. I'd agree it isn't going to do much of anything today though, so you're most profitably employed working on your thesis.

If it doesn't fall apart in the next 36 hours or so, then it's getting over some warmer water and might have a shot again, IMHO.


I agree. As in "shows over", what exactly did you mean? Totally? or in short term? I agree much isn't going to happen today, but I still think slow development is possible...then, when it gets into the Caribbean, all bets are off.
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#167 Postby btangy » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:13 am

The low level structure looks more diffuse now than 24 hours ago. It appears the low level vorticity is being elongated, which isn't good for development.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#168 Postby tailgater » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:16 am

Derek Ortt wrote:shows over folks

if you want to see what a real developing storm looks like... look at the EPAC disturbance near 120W

Time to finish my M.S. Thesis draft by this afternoon


Where's that PIG that says That's All Folks. guess we can lock this thread now J/K.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#169 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:19 am

i think the center is trying to re- establish itself to the north between 13N and 14N. and it looks convection is more ongoing up there than anywhere else. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-rb.html
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#170 Postby dwg71 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:25 am

skysummit wrote:You know what I find funny? There is a small group of posters who only seem to post when convection has decreased. Where were you guys last night when it was blossoming? Where will you be tonight when the same happens again?


I was sleeping last night, I wait to pull "all-nighters" when it actually gets a name :D , not because there is a flair up of thunderstorms around a tropical wave near the ITCZ. There may be a "small group of posters" who seem to take a wait and see approach and not jump on the back of every wave call it the "next big one", or talking about TX/LA landfalls - now that is what if find funny!

Everyone has their style of monitoring storms, to each his own.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#171 Postby MGC » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:28 am

99L is having a rather difficult time with dry air. Odds are falling that it will be named...MGC
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#172 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:31 am

Weatherfreak14 wrote:i think the center is trying to re- establish itself to the north between 13N and 14N. and it looks convection is more ongoing up there than anywhere else. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-rb.html


As much as I would like to agree w/ you, I think it's over.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#173 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:35 am

Blown_away wrote:
Weatherfreak14 wrote:i think the center is trying to re- establish itself to the north between 13N and 14N. and it looks convection is more ongoing up there than anywhere else. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-rb.html


As much as I would like to agree w/ you, I think it's over.


I still think that this has something left in it everything ahead of it is favorble for development, just patience is needed. it isnt dead, just asleep. but we will have to wait and see.
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#174 Postby skysummit » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:36 am

dwg71 wrote:
skysummit wrote:You know what I find funny? There is a small group of posters who only seem to post when convection has decreased. Where were you guys last night when it was blossoming? Where will you be tonight when the same happens again?


I was sleeping last night, I wait to pull "all-nighters" when it actually gets a name :D , not because there is a flair up of thunderstorms around a tropical wave near the ITCZ. There may be a "small group of posters" who seem to take a wait and see approach and not jump on the back of every wave call it the "next big one", or talking about TX/LA landfalls - now that is what if find funny!

Everyone has their style of monitoring storms, to each his own.


Understood, but hopefully you're not insinuating me talking about TX/LA landfalls because nothing like that has ever come from me. By the way, I work day and night so with the laptop by my side at all times, it's easy for me to stay logged on.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#175 Postby miamicanes177 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:36 am

Everyone please listen to the NHC. People make comments on message boards all the time, and it's best to listen to the NHC. The latest TWO says it is organizing and could become a depression.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#176 Postby skysummit » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:40 am

miamicanes177 wrote:Everyone please listen to the NHC. People make comments on message boards all the time, and it's best to listen to the NHC. The latest TWO says it is organizing and could become a depression.


One of the best posts in quite some time.
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#177 Postby 'CaneFreak » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:41 am

For those of you who think its fighting dry air, you might want to take a look at this map. This is a loop of the precipable water in the atmosphere down in the tropics. You can see there is a nice moist bubble surrounding our fledgling 99L. Now, will everyone please stop saying that it is fighting dry air? Thanks. The dry air is well to the north and yes the environment ahead of this system is moistening up.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... t48hrs.gif
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#178 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:41 am

and the latest data is so obvious that the situation has changed since 5:30 that by saying this is organizing, IMO, one has their heads 10 feet in the sand. Chantal is a developing storm, this is not
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#179 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:42 am

dwg71 wrote:
skysummit wrote:You know what I find funny? There is a small group of posters who only seem to post when convection has decreased. Where were you guys last night when it was blossoming? Where will you be tonight when the same happens again?


I was sleeping last night, I wait to pull "all-nighters" when it actually gets a name :D , not because there is a flair up of thunderstorms around a tropical wave near the ITCZ. There may be a "small group of posters" who seem to take a wait and see approach and not jump on the back of every wave call it the "next big one", or talking about TX/LA landfalls - now that is what if find funny!

Everyone has their style of monitoring storms, to each his own.
A few things...

A. This is a bit more than just a "wave". According to the NHC there is a LLC and this could possibly become a depression over the next 48 hours.

B. No one on this board has called for a TX/LA landfall. The only thing that has been said is that the building ridge would favor a more westward track into Mexico or up into the GOM instead of the storm recurving or hitting the SE United States.

C. Very few people have suggested this will become the "next big one" (and skysummit is not one of them). It is really too early to make calls like that.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#180 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:45 am

Plus when i Said "the next big one" a couple days back, i didnt mean that by strengh, i meant it by something to watch and i think it holds true as this is a "big" storm to track.
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