We got to do something!

[KWT]

Thats a good point Chacor but in truth its very hard to impliment something like that when a forum is very active, trust me I've tried!
Sometimes I suppose thought does need to be put into some posts.

Besides I thought that the Tropical Analysis forum was more for those really informative posts so they wouldn't get lost in this forum, surely if people came on here just for info they could look at that forum?

[Stratosphere747]

This is another topic just like the "test" debate where you can talk till your blue in the fact and refuse to understand.

It's really a simple set of standards to go by, and takes away nothing from some true informative discussion. You can still have the ability to show character and personality within your posts.

viewtopic.php?f=37&t=85432&start=0

Some folks need to give this a read.

[Bluefrog]

you opened yourself up to this .......


actually, i would vote to totally remove this thread or lock it. It's useless and I'm sorry I even posted here in the first place.

[Downdraft]

This is another topic just like the "test" debate where you can talk till your blue in the fact and refuse to understand.

It's really a simple set of standards to go by, and takes away nothing from some true informative discussion. You can still have the ability to show character and personality within your posts.

viewtopic.php?f=37&t=85432&start=0

Some folks need to give this a read.

Your right it's been said before and in such an eloquent manner it doesn't need to change. If we can make 23 pages out of a disorganized band of thunderstorms it's not going to be fun to watch what happens when a Katrina type storms comes humming across the Atlantic.

[KWT]

The key to the number iof posts is not a systems strength but how much of a threat they are, I mean 99L has had more threads then the major hurricanes of last year and yet is far weaker.
As disorganised as 99L it has looked good at times and was (maybe still is) a viable threat down the line to someone thats why I think we got so many posts, had this happened in no mans land of the Atlantic it wouldn't have even completed one thread yet alone 6!

[stormy70]

My personal opinion is that this is really a bad idea because this is a message board and sometimes people can get out info in a simple sentence. Plus what one views is not informational to another might be what the next poster or reader is looking for.

If it has to deal with the title of the thread I don't see anything wrong with one sentence post if they are informational or related to the topic of interest.

[x-y-no]

The main issue is that we have a lot more people participating than we did a couple of years ago. On Wednesday, we had 374 users online at one point when recon was flying 99L. We had over 320 pretty much all day. That's more than we've ever had in the past for all but maybe three or four major hurricanes just as the're threatening landfall.

And there's only so much substantive new information at any given time, while there's a natural desire on the part of members to participate. So naturally the substantive posts get more and more subsumed by chit-chat.

Ideally members would use the chatroom more, but I think it's not so realistic to expect the bulk of members to open up a second app just for that when it's so convenient and easy just to post here.

I don't know the best answer. In the meantime, we'll have to go with pleas for self-restraint, I suppose.

[Stratosphere747]

No question Downdraft....

Believe or not, it's generally only a handful of posters that abuse and make the thread almost unreadable - unless of course you are on summer vacation or unemployed.

Simple fact is that the board has so many more posting members then when you, I and Bluefrog *I totally understand your position* joined. Back in that day it was no problem having posting styles that today create real issues. It's now just a matter of not going on a posting spree with nothing being added to the disco.

[HeatherAKC]

It is in my experience and opinion that when there is a real storm and real threat, everyone understands the seriousness of the situation and "behaves" themselves, so to speak. Usually, when there is a real threat, offenders have been delt with on an individual basis. Problem solved. I've never seen this as a problem here when there's a big storm gunning for the US. Quite the opposite, infact. I've found the information and analysis to be beneficial, professional (from everyone), and in some instances possibly life saving.

We're talking about an invest that went poof. Big deal. This is a message board. And honestly, I was embarrassed for the board as some of the "professionals" were not being just that..."professional". Talking down to those who were just expressing their opinion on....a...cluster...of...rain! Geez! That's what this board is for. Do you know how hard it was for me yesterday to bite my tounge and NOT suggest that the high-and-mighty go post on their forum, created just for them??? Don't get me wrong, I totally respect the Pro's, but I could see them growing impatient yesterday for really, if you think about it, nothing!

I don't post often, but I've been around a long, long time. So forgive me if my post count isn't high, but I'm pretty in tune to the workings of Storm2K and the personalities of the board. I also frequent other boards, with other topics, and Storm2K is very well run board compared to some I visit. I trust the Mods to do the right thing here.

I say deal with the extreme offenders on an individual basis. Seems to have worked in the past, IMO.

(Probably my longest Storm2K post, eva!)

**Goes back to lurking**

[Cyclone1]

Great post, Heather!

[DESTRUCTION5]

I make one liner posts all the time and have been doing it for the past 6 years..I like to think that when I do make them there is some sort of pertinent information included whether it be a model or Sat image. I don't think I'll stop anytime soon either..Its Just me..

BTW..I think we can call the king of one Liners Derek Ortt. and IMO they are the best kind..

[OuterBanker]

Let's see. We are nearing twenty five pages on the sixth thread at 20 posts per page. Which would mean around three thousand posts on a storm that had as much chance of developing as the Cleveland Browns have of winning the Super Bowl. The reality is that we have nothing to talk about other than 99L. I think that once the season starts everthing will work out just fine. I also think we have a couple more weeks at grasping for straws. We all should rest up. I'm afraid that no one in the Gulf will get much sleep in Sept.

[Frank2]

Some might recall that I lost a few friends over a similar topic a year or two ago, and, since then, instead of making critical comments that'll get others angry with me, I've decided to follow the style of someone who used to post on TWC's message board, and, do not post or even read the posts when something similar to 99 is on the map, since reading the many guesses (for example: "GFDL says 130 knots in 84 hours!!!") only gets me stressed (unlike some or many here, I live in South Florida, so, what comes this way often can mean a great deal of stress over many days), so, as mentioned, I've decided to back way off during these times, and, per what you said, do not read the "one-liners" since they often only do a disservice to the many here who are looking for solid answers.

Ironically, I often call these responses a "99", since, that's how a person appears when they roll their eyes in frustration...

[fci]

I think Heather sai it best.

Lets face it, Invest 99 was a diversion from an otherwise very boring 2007. So, everyone seemed to jump on it and the thread just went on and on and on.

I have found in my few years here that when the pressure is on, almost everyone seems to ramp up the restraint and this board goes more to what we are all asking for. The source for vital information and opinions from a host of amatuers and Pro Mets.

Lets leave it to the Mods to police out those who cross the line and keep order when things are important. Face it, 99L was NOT IMPORTANT so retraint wasn't really a necessity.

Finally, im my opinion; there is no room for insults especially towards the Pro Mets. I know I have been on a stealth mission to stop this through PM's. I have been so tempted to engage those who purely insult and deride on the board but have just said "no".
Try to do the same, PM them and ask them to stop and then use the red "!" button and report them.
If you ignore them on the board, they will get bored and go play elsewhere and the Mods will end up suspending and/or banning them.

Most important tip was given earlier in the thread; Think before you post and ask yourself if you are ADDING anything to the thread or just echoing and repeating?

Have no fear, when things get IMPORTANT; S2K will shake down to what is supposed to be.

[Orlando_wx]

Being i have been here for many years and i do not post much as you can tell from my post count i see this every year when we are waiting for things to really get cranking. We also see this when we see a blob we have 10 to 20 pages of really nothing but oops and and agree's on single post is nonsense how can someone look for quick information on something when they have to sift through all the pages with one worded posts just to get some vital information people simply will not bother with it and move on some thing else. Sorry folks but i rely on this site quite a bit for information when things get going just don't want to see it go down hill thats all. Just and opinion folks

John

[Chacor]

Finally, im my opinion; there is no room for insults especially towards the Pro Mets. I know I have been on a stealth mission to stop this through PM's. I have been so tempted to engage those who purely insult and deride on the board but have just said "no".
Try to do the same, PM them and ask them to stop and then use the red "!" button and report them.
If you ignore them on the board, they will get bored and go play elsewhere and the Mods will end up suspending and/or banning them.

Most important tip was given earlier in the thread; Think before you post and ask yourself if you are ADDING anything to the thread or just echoing and repeating?

Have no fear, when things get IMPORTANT; S2K will shake down to what is supposed to be.

To an extent I disagree.

Everyone's free to their opinion, and while no one should be insulting anyone else - this should apply to pro mets too. No names, but there were a few who weren't model users (let alone professional!) during 99L.

[caneman]

Like my pappy use to say: "we all put our pants (drawers if your Southern) on the same way, so lets act it"!

[Bluefrog]

[Sanibel]

Especially one liners or comments that are off-topic. The worst offenders are chat-like interchanges between people discussing some off-topic unrelated business happening between certain posters in the thread. This makes it extremely difficult to maintain cohesive information about the system without having to weed through unnecessary information or chat.

[MBismyPlayground]

Umm Kay... I have been on this board for some time now....you all will have to read beside my name to figure it out since I totally forget. And yup THAT is an eye roll.
I have seen many people come and a few go. I rarely sign in any longer, due to some of the bashing. Figure why bother to ask one of my "dumb" questions, eventually I will figure it out, or if I don't it must not have been that important.
Now this is coming from a complete "novice" when it comes to weather....I know, many have tried to teach me a few things and yes I have learned so much more then what anyone expected, but alas, I am still a "novice" and still have very "redundant" and um "ignorant" questions. And of course, If I posted these questions....what would the response by some of you all be?? A major bashing. Plain and simple.
Now, excuse me for my so called ignorance again.... but isn't a message board a place where one posts messages????? No matter if why when or how it is said??
Some of the so called "one liners" DEFINES who a person is... which aids in making this community what it is, was and has become. Many of these members have met, become friends, speak to one other outside this forum ect.....When there is a disaster, many of us know how to reach one another to make sure everyone is OK. We have an idea of where one works, lives, ect..... All info in aiding to do well being checks during disasters or in this case, kick butt hurricanes. I could use Katrina as an example.
The chatter within threads.....well unless it is something serious,(like a non fish) I cannot find a problem with it.....because....TADA..... I found the scroll button!!!!! If anyone needs any help finding it, I can show ya where it is!
But on a serious note.... I thought the tropical analysis forum was for the pro's to post their pro. thoughts.....and when things ramp up, for real info, I tend to go there. Because bottom line, the pro mets should be respected, as should everyone who is a member here.
I think we all should remember, this is supposed to be fun and well as informative.