Playing God: Can We Control the Weather? 8/05 discovery ch.

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Re: Playing God: Can We Control the Weather? 8/05 discovery ch.

#21 Postby vbhoutex » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:44 pm

I understand Steve's comments and basically agree with where he is coming from, BUT, it scares the heck out of me that we have no idea what the downstream consequences of the modification actions might be. Are we talking the possible immediate problems already mentioned or are we talking stronger storms later due to more latent heat content left, etc., etc., etc. The basics of it to me are DON'T MESS WITH MOTHER NATURE!! Whether we like it or not, MN will ALWAYS win. That is a given.

And if I can remember I will be watching this also.
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Re: Playing God: Can We Control the Weather? 8/05 discovery ch.

#22 Postby O Town » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:58 pm

vbhoutex wrote:
And if I can remember I will be watching this also.

fact789 wrote:Ill defiantly be watching if I can remember. :lol: I think it will be very interesting.

LOL, me too. I tried to set the DVR to do it while I was thinking about it but it doesn't go that far ahead yet.
Someone needs to remeber to bump this the day before..........AT UM.....Brent maybe. :lol:
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Re: Playing God: Can We Control the Weather? 8/05 discovery ch.

#23 Postby miamicanes177 » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:42 pm

Aside from hurricanes, China seems to be the most aggressive in general weather modification. In fact, they have what is called "The Beijing Weather Modification Office." A method used by the Chinese involves firing rockets containing silver iodide into clouds. I've read where they look for a "pregnant cloud" and fire the rockets to "induce" the rain. They also try to prevent rain. Everyone knows about their guarantee of clear skies for the 2008 Olympic opening ceremony. They've been working tirelessly to perfect their technique for the big show. Below are a couple of sites showing what they have accomplished.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-05/06/content_583222.htm
http://en.beijing2008.cn/culture/ceremonies/n214112820.shtml
http://www.chinaeconomicreview.com/olympics/category/weather/
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#24 Postby Berwick Bay » Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:43 am

It figures that most of us would be against it, we participate in a tropical weather board! Of course, I'm also against weather modification. But I wonder how the general public would feel about it? Or even some who are members here because they are rightfully frightened about what tropical weather can do, but don't often post. They might be in favor of it. I hate to say it, but if I had to predict, I would say that at some point in the future we will have some kind of modification program in regard to hurricanes. I hope not, but with all of the money at stake, I fear it might be inevitable. It would be called "progress". But I think the world would be a less beautiful place. In the words of the famous poet-songwriter, "paved paradise, put up a parking lot."
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#25 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:15 am

I'm not that worried, honestly. If a "Project STORMFURY 2.0" is picked up, all it'll take is one small deviation in a seeded hurricanes path for the project to be cancelled. They were pretty cautious with previous attempts.
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Re: Playing God: Can We Control the Weather? 8/05 discovery ch.

#26 Postby wayne56 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:32 am

Military control of the Universe. It is our destiny as humans to dominate the Universe. We must control and dominate nature. It is only a matter of time before humans will control Hurricanes, Tornadoes, and other atmospheric phenomenon.

Weather as a war tool: Here is one example

Floods: disrupting roads, bridges and stopping military troops and equipment.

1000 years in the future weather will be controlled by humans. In other words weather nerds will be talking about something else and not losing sleep over a swirl in the Atlantic Ocean.

:lol:
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Re: Playing God: Can We Control the Weather? 8/05 discovery ch.

#27 Postby sunnyday » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:54 am

Any time someone plays God, it is a mistake. He is God; we aren't.
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#28 Postby alan1961 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:12 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:A weather experiment gone wrong sounds like a good plot for a hollywood blockbuster movie..but not for real life.

I think it would be smartest if we do not attempt to mess with mother nature's weather patterns. It could very well have disasterous end results.

I think we've already been messing with mother natures weather patterns according to scientists views..its called global warming!..use of fossil fuels etc etc..always open to debate of course :lol: :wink:
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#29 Postby Berwick Bay » Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:35 pm

Cookiely said
I have another question. If Andrew had been making landfall in Miami and they could modify it to hit Homestead, would it be justified? The idea of making such a decision makes me ill.

Very perceptive of you Cookiely. Did you know that a decision like this was made in 1927 in regards to the Great Mississippi River Flood of that year? It was one of the truly great natural disasters in our history, flooding cities and farmland up and down the entire Mississippi River Valley. But New Orleans was saved!! How? Levees were blown south of New Orleans to relieve the pressure at New Orleans itself. Flooding occured in smaller, rural, and I'm told predominantly minority communities south of New Orleans. BTW this lesson from history was not forgotten by some who suspect foul play in the breaking of the levees during Katrina. As for Katrina, I believe the levees broke of their own accord. But the events of 1927 added ammunition to those who saw other more sinister forces at play in 2005.
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#30 Postby HUC » Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:47 pm

Hurricanes and other tropical cyclones are producing more than 50% of the rain here.....Withouth these natural systems the carribean should be a new Sahel!!!!!!!
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#31 Postby MississippiHurricane » Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:44 pm

Ive said it before and ill say it again...............we DONT need to screw around with mother nature!! This is not OUR planet and we dont run things on it...............we just merely exist on it. Mother Nature will do what it wants to do and if we are in the way, so be it even if it means destruction of our property and lives. So if anyone wants to play God and mess with storms, they need to let me know so i can prepair for a future of more global problems. This earth did just fine before we came along and will do just fine after we leave. OH and one more thing if we can change the course of a hurricane who is to say city Y is more important than city X? So we can just decide who will get their life destroyed or whom can die? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm interesting. "Just because we have a loaded gun doent mean we should just fire!!!!!!!" I'm sorry ill get off my soapbox and go cool off now. :grr: :grr:
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#32 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:48 pm

Misshurricane wrote:Ive said it before and ill say it again...............we DONT need to screw around with mother nature!! This is not OUR planet and we dont run things on it...............we just merely exist on it. Mother Nature will do what it wants to do and if we are in the way, so be it even if it means destruction of our property and lives. So if anyone wants to play God and mess with storms, they need to let me know so i can prepair for a future of more global problems. This earth did just fine before we came along and will do just fine after we leave. OH and one more thing if we can change the course of a hurricane who is to say city Y is more important than city X? So we can just decide who will get their life destroyed or whom can die? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm interesting. "Just because we have a loaded gun doent mean we should just fire!!!!!!!" I'm sorry ill get off my soapbox and go cool off now. :grr: :grr:


Couldn't agree more.
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Re: Playing God: Can We Control the Weather? 8/05 discovery ch.

#33 Postby alan1961 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:52 pm

Misshurricane wrote:Ive said it before and ill say it again...............we DONT need to screw around with mother nature!! This is not OUR planet and we dont run things on it...............we just merely exist on it. Mother Nature will do what it wants to do and if we are in the way, so be it even if it means destruction of our property and lives. So if anyone wants to play God and mess with storms, they need to let me know so i can prepair for a future of more global problems. This earth did just fine before we came along and will do just fine after we leave. OH and one more thing if we can change the course of a hurricane who is to say city Y is more important than city X? So we can just decide who will get their life destroyed or whom can die? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm interesting. "Just because we have a loaded gun doent mean we should just fire!!!!!!!" I'm sorry ill get off my soapbox and go cool off now. :grr: :grr:
spot on miss hurricane :wink:
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#34 Postby Complacency » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:55 pm

Have any of you heard of chemtrails?
google search chemtrails.
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#35 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:57 pm

Complacency wrote:Have any of you heard of chemtrails?
google search chemtrails.

How would chemtrails modify the future track/intesnity of hurricanes? How are they relevant at all to large scale weather modification?
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#36 Postby destruction92 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:51 pm

Cyclone1 wrote:
Complacency wrote:Have any of you heard of chemtrails?
google search chemtrails.

How would chemtrails modify the future track/intesnity of hurricanes? How are they relevant at all to large scale weather modification?


I know exactly what complacency is talking about.
Look at this link: http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/rosalind.html
There was a weather modification bill passed by the senate. "U.S. Senate Bill 517 and U.S. House Bill 2995, a bill that would allow experimental weather modification by artificial methods and implement a national weather modification policy, does not include agriculture or public oversight, is on the "fast track" to be passed early in 2006.



OH, AND IF YOU ARE STILL CURIOUS, HERE IS A VIDEO ABOUT "CHEMTRAILS": http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=1
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#37 Postby miamicanes177 » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:29 am

show is tonight
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Re: Playing God: Can We Control the Weather? 8/05 discovery ch.

#38 Postby windstorm99 » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:46 am

Superstorm movie is 2 hours long which looks interesting indeed....But to be honest its impossible in my opinion to control a hurricane it will never be accomplished.Atleast not in the near future.

Few pics from the site...

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#39 Postby Category 5 » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:36 pm

I'll watch, it should be good for a laugh.
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Re: Playing God: Can We Control the Weather? 8/05 discovery ch.

#40 Postby Sanibel » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:48 pm

I'm all against man fiddling with nature (like CO2). However, if you were to argue that hurricanes are needed to vent warm air into the upper atmosphere to regulate temperature you could say that most hurricanes would be left untouched to do their business. Only deadly landfallers would be affected. So, of all the cyclones in the world only a small percentage - say under 1% would be modified. The impact on world temperature equilibrium would be negligible. In light of this, if they could cut a monster category 5 down before landfall on a city I would say do it - as long as there were no bigger environmental effects.
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