Long-Term Model Runs

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
Scorpion

Re: All Long-Term Model Runs

#121 Postby Scorpion » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:53 pm

That looks like a pretty powerful hurricane too...
Last edited by Scorpion on Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   

miamicanes177
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1131
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:53 pm

Re:

#122 Postby miamicanes177 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:54 pm

Cyclone1 wrote:Let's call this one a questionable run. Two hurricanes undergoing Fujiwhara interaction in the GULF? That was would be way cool, but extremely unlikey.
then they could merge and become the scifi supercane
0 likes   

Cyclone1
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2739
Age: 33
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:03 pm
Location: Florida

Re: Re:

#123 Postby Cyclone1 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:56 pm

miamicanes177 wrote:
Cyclone1 wrote:Let's call this one a questionable run. Two hurricanes undergoing Fujiwhara interaction in the GULF? That was would be way cool, but extremely unlikey.
then they could merge and become the scifi supercane

... that would eventually make its way up to the Canada, drifting over New York as the worlds worst blizzard, burrying the northern hemisphere in half an acre of snow. And Britney Spears becomes a school teacher.
0 likes   

Wx_Warrior
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2718
Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:58 pm
Location: Beaumont, TX

Re: All Long-Term Model Runs

#124 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:00 pm

LOL...Image

Never heard of this model...High over us (BMT, PA, ORG-TX) keeps us safe for next 2 weeks.
0 likes   

User avatar
Meso
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1609
Age: 38
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:14 pm
Location: South Africa
Contact:

#125 Postby Meso » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:00 pm

Hah oh my @ the CMC... Well it may not be true,all these runs showing activity may well be a sign things are going to heat up very soon.
0 likes   

User avatar
Sjones
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 168
Joined: Thu May 17, 2007 2:09 pm
Location: Southeast Texas

Re: All Long-Term Model Runs

#126 Postby Sjones » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:01 pm

I thought the high over us in Southeast Texas was to move out this weekend??
Last edited by Sjones on Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   

Wx_Warrior
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2718
Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:58 pm
Location: Beaumont, TX

Re: All Long-Term Model Runs

#127 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:02 pm

From my brother:

High pressure here for next 2 weeks keeps everything away. But who knows?
0 likes   

User avatar
rainman31
Tropical Depression
Tropical Depression
Posts: 94
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:42 pm
Location: Lewisville,TX

Re:

#128 Postby rainman31 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:16 pm

Scorpion wrote:Interesting... the CMC shows two storms in the GOM at the same time




Has there ever been two hurricanes in the gulf at the same time?
0 likes   

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 145295
Age: 68
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: All Long-Term Model Runs

#129 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:23 pm

ronjon wrote:Wow, 12Z CMC goes bananas with explosive GOM development.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.cgi?time=2007080812&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation


Wake me up when CMC has the same scenario in the 12z run three days from now. :)
0 likes   

User avatar
SouthFloridawx
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 8346
Age: 46
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:16 am
Location: Sarasota, FL
Contact:

Re: All Long-Term Model Runs

#130 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:26 pm

cycloneye wrote:
ronjon wrote:Wow, 12Z CMC goes bananas with explosive GOM development.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.cgi?time=2007080812&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation


Wake me up when CMC has the same scenario in the 12z run three days from now. :)


Yep, that is about as bananas as you get.
0 likes   

Brent
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 38088
Age: 36
Joined: Sun May 16, 2004 10:30 pm
Location: Tulsa Oklahoma
Contact:

Re: Re:

#131 Postby Brent » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:29 pm

rainman31 wrote:
Scorpion wrote:Interesting... the CMC shows two storms in the GOM at the same time




Has there ever been two hurricanes in the gulf at the same time?


I don't believe so and I doubt it could happen.

Now I guess two weak storms on opposite sides(like one near TX and one near FL) could potentially happen but I can't see two big storms at one time.
0 likes   

User avatar
Janie2006
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1329
Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:28 pm
Location: coastal Ms aka home of the hurricanes

Re: All Long-Term Model Runs

#132 Postby Janie2006 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:32 pm

The dominant high pressure system currently centered over northern MS/AL will probably drift to the west over the next few days....I don't see it hanging out for 2 weeks. Along the coast we're on the southern edge of the high, so we're getting the occasional shower to help us.
0 likes   

User avatar
weatherman21
Tropical Depression
Tropical Depression
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:07 am

Re: All Long-Term Model Runs

#133 Postby weatherman21 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:56 pm

I just observed the 12Z GFS run which I see is continuing to show the wave track offshore the west African coast by this Saturday; although, the GFS is now indicating the possible cyclone to track well south of the United States and through the Carribean Sea into the Yucatan. I suppose the GFS is continuing to detect a possible cyclone, but the model is having a difficult time predicting the long-term scenerio. However, I see that the GFS is remaining very consistant with a west/wnw track through the southern Atlantic from Saturday through next Thursday (8/16) where the model places the storm just to the east of the Lesser Antilles. I was recently able to observe an archive NAM model run based upon Hurricane Katrina and found that by utilizing certian model products, I can create an outline of a cyclone, but in order to recieve the best resolution, I had to set the contour interval very tight in the program I use, the Integrated Data Viewer. Taking the results from the Hurricane Katrina study into consideration, I have experimented with the wave which the GFS brings off the coast of Africa Saturday and by using the Precipitable Water product (or Water Vapor), I was able to outline the structure well, but you will notice in the screen captures below that I set the contour intervals very tight to recieve a good outline of the storm. It will be interesting to see whether the GFS is actually correct in its prediction for the short term or if the model comes up wrong. The screen captures from the 12Z (8am) GFS run from this morning are below and the wind vectors are set at 500 Pa:

Forecast for 8/11 at 12Z; The wave is seen emerging off the west coast of Africa on the bottom-right hand portion of this screen capture:
Image

Forecast for 8/13 at 12Z:
Image

Forecast for 8/14 at 21Z:
Image

Forecast for 8/16 at 0Z:
Image
0 likes   

User avatar
rainman31
Tropical Depression
Tropical Depression
Posts: 94
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:42 pm
Location: Lewisville,TX

Re: All Long-Term Model Runs

#134 Postby rainman31 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:59 pm

very cool graphic 8-)
Last edited by rainman31 on Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   

User avatar
skysummit
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 5305
Age: 49
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:09 pm
Location: Ponchatoula, LA
Contact:

#135 Postby skysummit » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:00 pm

Well, the 18z is rolling out right now, and it's still there.
0 likes   

User avatar
SouthFloridawx
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 8346
Age: 46
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:16 am
Location: Sarasota, FL
Contact:

Re: All Long-Term Model Runs

#136 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:04 pm

Those graphics are really cool, thanks for sharing with us. Please feel free to do so in the future. :D
0 likes   

User avatar
skysummit
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 5305
Age: 49
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:09 pm
Location: Ponchatoula, LA
Contact:

Re: All Long-Term Model Runs

#137 Postby skysummit » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:25 pm

18z GFS tightening it up at 138 hours:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_138m.gif
0 likes   

User avatar
Meso
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1609
Age: 38
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:14 pm
Location: South Africa
Contact:

#138 Postby Meso » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:44 pm

Image
0 likes   

Scorpion

#139 Postby Scorpion » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:46 pm

Very persistant about getting a TC close to the CONUS the past several runs
0 likes   

User avatar
cheezyWXguy
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6108
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:29 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: All Long-Term Model Runs

#140 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:46 pm

skysummit wrote:18z GFS tightening it up at 138 hours:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_138m.gif

Wow...each run makes it even stronger :eek: also, I noticed something...it may not necessarily be the same system as the gulf system the CMC develops, but in youre link, notice the 1011mb low right on the east coast of the yucatan..could be just a spurious low, but it could also be a hint by the GFS of the gulf low developed by the NAM, CMC, and ECM
0 likes   


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: kenayers, Sciencerocks and 27 guests