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Re: Models Thread=From Page 10 12z runs,GFS,UKMET,CMC,EURO

#341 Postby Wx_Warrior » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:59 pm

LOL....

I would rather the models say a close call now than 10 days from now having it pointed at you!
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Re: Models Thread=From Page 10 12z runs,GFS,UKMET,CMC,EURO

#342 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:00 pm

GFS now plowing a big Atlantic monster in a hook up the SW coast of Florida right over Sanibel...
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#343 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:03 pm

Can't wait to see what the 18Z GFS shows.. :roll: It doesn't have all the data put into it like the 12 and 0Z runs.
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Re: Models Thread=From Page 10 12z runs,GFS,UKMET,CMC,EURO

#344 Postby brunota2003 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:03 pm

Sanibel wrote:GFS now plowing a big Atlantic monster in a hook up the SW coast of Florida right over Sanibel...

Its ten days out and the models do not accurately depict the center...I think this topic fits nicely:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=96420
The models last night had it hitting me, before that, it was Texas...
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Re: Models Thread=From Page 10 12z runs,GFS,UKMET,CMC,EURO

#345 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:04 pm

That EURO track would be absolutely devastating for the Keys, SE, SW and depending on the track a good portion of the west coast of Florida.
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Re: Models Thread=From Page 10 12z runs,GFS,UKMET,CMC,EURO

#346 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:04 pm

brunota2003 wrote:
Sanibel wrote:GFS now plowing a big Atlantic monster in a hook up the SW coast of Florida right over Sanibel...

Its ten days out and the models do not accurately depict the center...I think this topic fits nicely:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=96420
The models last night had it hitting me, before that, it was Texas...


The EURO hasn't really changed in about 2 days though.
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Re: Models Thread=From Page 10 12z runs,GFS,UKMET,CMC,EURO

#347 Postby shortwave » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:06 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:
shortwave wrote:anyone know the exact margin of error for location and strength 10 days out? a bit hungover to look it up at the moment..lol
The average 5-day track error from the NHC last year was just under 300 nautical miles ( http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/verification/figs/OFCL_ATL_trk_error_trend_noTDs.gif )...and that was for developed systems. The current error for an undevloped system at 10+ days could easily be up to 700-1000+ nautical miles. lol. Basically it is a crap shoot.

The only thing we can really say for sure right now is that over the next 3-5 days this should remain on a generally westward course under the bermuda high to it's north.


Thanx for the info! I guess the proper thing to say at this point would be, "Place your bets"
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Re: Models Thread=From Page 10 12z runs,GFS,UKMET,CMC,EURO

#348 Postby Brent » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:08 pm

shortwave wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:
shortwave wrote:anyone know the exact margin of error for location and strength 10 days out? a bit hungover to look it up at the moment..lol
The average 5-day track error from the NHC last year was just under 300 nautical miles ( http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/verification/figs/OFCL_ATL_trk_error_trend_noTDs.gif )...and that was for developed systems. The current error for an undevloped system at 10+ days could easily be up to 700-1000+ nautical miles. lol. Basically it is a crap shoot.

The only thing we can really say for sure right now is that over the next 3-5 days this should remain on a generally westward course under the bermuda high to it's north.


Thanx for the info! I guess the proper thing to say at this point would be, "Place your bets"


Yeah, there's no point in worrying or freaking out about anything yet. It's gonna be 5-6 days before it even effects the islands.

Defintely bears watching though, I think this will easily be the first real storm of the year.
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Re: Models Thread=From Page 10 12z runs,GFS,UKMET,CMC,EURO

#349 Postby shortwave » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:14 pm

when/if the storm materializes, will mid-level ridging be the dominant steering mechanism?
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Re: Models Thread=From Page 10 12z runs,GFS,UKMET,CMC,EURO

#350 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:15 pm

The Euro animated model output.

http://tinyurl.com/yr5g5g
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Re: Models Thread=From Page 10 12z runs,GFS,UKMET,CMC,EURO

#351 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:24 pm

What I don't like is the fact that the CONUS WV http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/nwatl/loop-wv.html is showing the mild summer troughs across the US going W-E in orientation in a zonal pattern. This could be in response to a nosing ridge in the tropics of the type that steered storms into Florida before. (ie GFS accurate and reading it correctly)
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#352 Postby hurricanetrack » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:27 pm

Wow. That is amazing. Been a while since we have seen a long track hurricane. This will be interesting to watch unfold.

On another note, why is the NOGAPS a no-show for this one? Anyone seen its latest run? Nada. Nothing, zip. Just lower pressures off of CF'ville

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Re: Models Thread=From Page 10 12z runs,GFS,UKMET,CMC,EURO

#353 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:39 pm

Sanibel wrote:GFS now plowing a big Atlantic monster in a hook up the SW coast of Florida right over Sanibel...


Over Sanibel, thought it was going through the straits? Link please.
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Re: Models Thread for 90L

#354 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:55 pm

Hit "850mb Loop" at top of column second in from left:


http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/model_m.shtml


Donna track with less hook.
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Re: Models Thread for 90L

#355 Postby Wx_Warrior » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:13 pm

Great for western GOM but terrible for eastern GOM....Let the betting begin!

Would love to see odds on this thing ONCE it forms.
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Re: Models Thread for 90L

#356 Postby canegrl04 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:17 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:Great for western GOM but terrible for eastern GOM....Let the betting begin!

Would love to see odds on this thing ONCE it forms.


I bet it hits Florida.Not brave enough to say exactly where,or the strength yet
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Re: Models Thread for 90L

#357 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:33 pm

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#358 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:38 pm

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Re: Models Thread for 90L

#359 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:40 pm

This will be fun. The 18Z and 6Z runs are not my favorate.
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Re: Models Thread for 90L

#360 Postby HURRICANE ILM » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:41 pm

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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