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#161 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:40 pm

caribepr wrote:I've given a few friends a heads up on this. Everyone I know is *prepared* but putting it into action...we know what that means. I was supposed to go to Tortola that weekend. We're saying...three more days, we'll all make some decisions.
I am relying on S2K for real info, as I have before, as I watch but I am not skilled in more than watching. The pro's and close to pro's are my eyes...thank you.


You will not have any problem getting all the necessary information about this possible threat to the Caribbean as our resident pro mets and other good amateurs will provide the complete anaylisis and get to the bottomline about all the angles of this.So stay tuned here.
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#162 Postby robbielyn » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:41 pm

Will this storm go more north than it is now?
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#163 Postby artist » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:44 pm

there is a possibility this could hit Florida, if it develops, correct?
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#164 Postby Opal storm » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:45 pm

robbielyn wrote:Will this storm go more north than it is now?

Not really, it might head more WNW after a few days but it should be pretty much due west till it reaches the islands.
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#165 Postby Brent » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:46 pm

artist wrote:there is a possibility this could hit Florida, if it develops, correct?


Defintely a possibility, but it's about 10 days away. Could go pretty much to any coastal state.
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#166 Postby msbee » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:46 pm

Derek
If you think this will track mainly to the west, then are you thinking that it would cut through maybe the central Caribbean islands rather than the northern?
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Re: INVEST 90L over East Atlantic: discussion and analysis

#167 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:46 pm

this is a great pass ... clearly showing the banding... wellthe one extending NE is clear anyway

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#168 Postby RL3AO » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:47 pm

artist wrote:there is a possibility this could hit Florida, if it develops, correct?


Any thing is possible. It could it Belieze, Mexico, Texas, Central Gulf Coast, Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas, the NE US, Cuba, the islands, PR, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Jamaica, or it could be a fish storm.
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#169 Postby artist » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:47 pm

thanks Brent. With the fronts that are beginning to drop down are the getting into the gulf yet?
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Re: INVEST 90L over East Atlantic: discussion and analysis

#170 Postby wjs3 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:48 pm

robbielyn wrote:Will this storm go more north than it is now?

artist wrote:there is a possibility this could hit Florida, if it develops, correct?


IF it develops, yes it could hit Florida. Or the Carolinas, or mexico, or anywhere. We are way, way, way too far away to start talking track on a system that doesn't even have a center.

And...

What storm? There is just a cluster of thunderstorms right now. Wait for a real center to form, let the models initialize it well and give it time, let recon get out there IF a storm forms...then we can start talking about north or south or whatever.

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#171 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:49 pm

very too soon to say where this makes landfall
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#172 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:49 pm

GFDL text:

126 - 15.4 - 53.0 - 277./12.0
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#173 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:51 pm

The 18Z GFS with a Category 7 hitting Corpus Christi is a little too close for cmfort after spending almost $30k upgrading the house in suburban Harris County the last two weeks.





/Yes, I know there is no Cat 7. Dramatic license.
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Re: INVEST 90L over East Atlantic: discussion and analysis

#174 Postby Downdraft » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:55 pm

Not wanting to splash water on anyone's predictions of a U.S. landfall but I'd remind folks it's a long ways away and the eastern Caribbean has been the graveyard of many a hurricane. It is way to soon to be predicting any kind of U.S. landfall with this system. Development is obvious and so is the track for a few days but guesses won't go from wild to educated till next week sometime at the earliest.
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Re: INVEST 90L over East Atlantic: discussion and analysis

#175 Postby Robjohn53 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:56 pm

First Wxman97 now Derek there is alot to be conserned about now i have fallowed both along time and when they say jump i am jumping caount on it.
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#176 Postby wjs3 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:58 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:very too soon to say where this makes landfall


Derek, Sorry,but with all due respect, where what makes landfall? I think this is going to develop, but know that until the models get a decent initialization and until something actually forms, this is pure speculation.

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Re: INVEST 90L over East Atlantic: discussion and analysis

#177 Postby wxman57 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:01 pm

Robjohn53 wrote:First Wxman97 now Derek there is alot to be conserned about now i have fallowed both along time and when they say jump i am jumping count on it.


That's "57", I'm older than 10 years old. ;-)

From the looks of it now, I think it's highly unlikely the NHC would call it a TD in the near future. Certainly, not overnight. They'll want to take a good long look at it on visible imagery tomorrow, wait for the morning QS, make sure the convection isn't fading, and be relatively confident of continued development. That might not come until Monday. Could be tomorrow afternoon, maybe. But I think development chances are in the 70% range, and if it does develop then hurricane strength is quite likely. I agree with Derek that the eastern Caribbean will very likely be threatened late in the week. Threatened doesn't necessarily mean hit, just threatened to be hit. If it develops quickly and becomes a strong TS or Hurricane early, then there is a chance it'll miss the Caribbean and it could well recurve. The ridge north of it may have a few weaknesses west of 50W-60W. Too soon to tell. Ask me in 3-4 days. ;-)

I think it's safe to say that I won't have many more days off until mid October.
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Re: INVEST 90L over East Atlantic: discussion and analysis

#178 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:02 pm

not speculation at all


don't need a center to look at the large scale steering patterns. Only chance of this not at least posing a significant threat to land is for it to not develop
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Re: INVEST 90L over East Atlantic: discussion and analysis

#179 Postby Sambucol » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:04 pm

just how big a storm are the models showing if this thing develops into a hurricane?
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Re: INVEST 90L over East Atlantic: discussion and analysis

#180 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:08 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Robjohn53 wrote:First Wxman97 now Derek there is alot to be conserned about now i have fallowed both along time and when they say jump i am jumping count on it.


That's "57", I'm older than 10 years old. ;-)

From the looks of it now, I think it's highly unlikely the NHC would call it a TD in the near future. Certainly, not overnight. They'll want to take a good long look at it on visible imagery tomorrow, wait for the morning QS, make sure the convection isn't fading, and be relatively confident of continued development. That might not come until Monday. Could be tomorrow afternoon, maybe. But I think development chances are in the 70% range, and if it does develop then hurricane strength is quite likely. I agree with Derek that the eastern Caribbean will very likely be threatened late in the week. Threatened doesn't necessarily mean hit, just threatened to be hit. If it develops quickly and becomes a strong TS or Hurricane early, then there is a chance it'll miss the Caribbean and it could well recurve. The ridge north of it may have a few weaknesses west of 50W-60W. Too soon to tell. Ask me in 3-4 days. ;-)

I think it's safe to say that I won't have many more days off until mid October.



that's a good point WXMAN, if we want to hope for a recurve out to sea, then we need to hope for quick strengthening, the sooner it becomes a TD, the sooner it will become a tropical storm/hurricane and the greater chance of a recurve out to sea....Very slow strengthening on the otherhand would not be good news, and because of this Let's hope it becomes a depression sometime tomorrow, as opposed to later....
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