last 30 years only 2 u.s landfalls above CAT 3?

[cpdaman]

now yes i am knocking on wood

but with the United states seemingly taking every procaution to become aware of national security threats, it would seem they would liken a CAT 4 or 5 storm making landfall in an area (where alot of Economic damage could be done) SUCH a THREAT to national security

and as we all know any operations conducted in the name of National Security will be classified away and not avialable to the public or even regular promets ( outside certain military weather circles)


if you were them, would u work to develop a program to redirct and or weaken incoming landfalling systems to avoid such economic centers? It just seems to me that there has been so many storms that conveiniently and thankfully weaken just before land, and given that we have had a rather busier last decade of activity only charley (which hit mostly rural areas) had impacted the states at cat 4 or above (again thankfully) and yes andrew but again rural homestead missed Miami and yes i know about katrina which was a 3 but the flooded areas were the more low income areas (which is awful) but may not be in the eyes of a gov't trying to minimize economic impact

i understand the best that can come out of this is conjecture and assumptions but i thought that it is certainly possible.

[Regit]

Hugo hit the US twice as a Cat4/5.

[hial2]

if you were them, would u work to develop a program to redirct and or weaken incoming landfalling systems to avoid such economic centers? .

Redirect? To where? From the financial centers on the east coast to the gulf coast? Alabama? Tx? Ms? West coast of Florida? Mexico? Out the open ocean to Bermuda? How about if it sinks a cruise ship?

Only God should have that power That's why such a thing is impossible for man..we did try cloud seeding,remember?

[CronkPSU]

is that right...only 2, I know Hugo, Andrew and Katrina all were above cat 3's right? duh, forgot about Charley as well

[artist]

if you were them, would u work to develop a program to redirct and or weaken incoming landfalling systems to avoid such economic centers?

yea, that's why we have had storms increasing in strength and I can see them pulling the storms with ships to steer them !

[cpdaman]

ha ha guys i think it can be made fun of also but i'm just suggesting

if hurricane's can be such a national security threat (in regards to economic impact) i bet that anything that works or has been advanced (be it cloud seeding) or whatever would be classified because if there was anything military could do to modify the weather, they would be second guessed to no limit by anyone who still got hit by anything so it would be classifield and we would be left in the dark in regards to the technology if not led to believe they can't. because it would limit discussion

[HurryKane]

if you were them, would u work to develop a program to redirct and or weaken incoming landfalling systems to avoid such economic centers? .

Redirect? To where? From the financial centers on the east coast to the gulf coast? Alabama? Tx? Ms? West coast of Florida? Mexico? Out the open ocean to Bermuda? How about if it sinks a cruise ship?

Only God should have that power That's why such a thing is impossible for man..we did try cloud seeding,remember?

I say we sling 'em down to Antarctica and give the penguins some wicked cool surfing conditions. Duuuude.

[Duddy]

We tried cloud seeding decades ago and it worked fine on Pacific cyclones, I don't see why tech. hasn't gotten any better.

[Hurricanehink]

is that right...only 2, I know Hugo, Andrew and Katrina all were above cat 3's right? duh, forgot about Charley as well

Katrina was a Cat. 3, actually. In the last thirty years, there were four U.S. landfalls above Cat. 3; Hugo, Andrew, and Charley were mentioned, but you forgot Iniki in 1992 which struck Hawaii as a Cat. 4. Additionally, if you include U.S. territories (which are part of the U.S. and thus could be considered U.S. landfalls), Typhoon Pongsona in 2002 hit Guam as a Cat. 4, Hurricane Lenny in 1999 hit St. Croix (USVI) with winds of 155 mph, Typhoon Paka made a direct hit (but not landfall) on Guam as a Cat. 4 in 1997.

[CronkPSU]

if you were them, would u work to develop a program to redirct and or weaken incoming landfalling systems to avoid such economic centers? .

Redirect? To where? From the financial centers on the east coast to the gulf coast? Alabama? Tx? Ms? West coast of Florida? Mexico? Out the open ocean to Bermuda? How about if it sinks a cruise ship?

Only God should have that power That's why such a thing is impossible for man..we did try cloud seeding,remember?

I say we sling 'em down to Antarctica and give the penguins some wicked cool surfing conditions. Duuuude.

did someone just watch surf's up???

[Lowpressure]

Frederick 1979 was 135mph at MS Gulf coast landfall.

[Aric Dunn]

if you were them, would u work to develop a program to redirct and or weaken incoming landfalling systems to avoid such economic centers? .

Redirect? To where? From the financial centers on the east coast to the gulf coast? Alabama? Tx? Ms? West coast of Florida? Mexico? Out the open ocean to Bermuda? How about if it sinks a cruise ship?

Only God should have that power That's why such a thing is impossible for man..we did try cloud seeding,remember?

nothing is impossible

[yzerfan]

If you're talking a small to medium-sized storm, best possible track is probably similar to Bret 1999- the area of south Texas between Corpus Christi and Brownsville where there's nothing on the barrier islands and only the King Ranch once you get inland. Kenedy County's got a population of something like 2,000 people total.

[Derek Ortt]

frederic was 130 mph... upper cat 3

[cpdaman]

guys i just find it odd that a major economic center ( thankfully very thankfully) has not been hit by a very strong storm like houston, or miami, or ft. laudy, or westpalm, or NYC even, or Tampa-stpete in the recent 50 years!

[Lowpressure]

frederic was 130 mph... upper cat 3

115 kts= 132.5 mph at 943 mb per recon adjusting from flight level 946 mb at landfall.
Dauphne Island Bridge reported 128 kts.

I guess he was as borderline as it gets. I was in Ocean Springs, Miss. never want to see that again.

[Downdraft]

Hurricanes are no more a national security threat than the San Andreas fault, Mt. Ranier or Yellowstone or for that matter the Mississippi River during flood stage. I wish people would just remember as far as nature is concerned we just live on this planet we don't own it. The threat is not the hurricane the threat is building things that get in their way.

[Derek Ortt]

Ft Lauderdale most certainly was hit hard in 2005... far harder than was expected

There is still some visible damage in Miami as well

[cpdaman]

yes fort lauderdale was hit hard i rode out the storm in pembroke pines what a blast! i think ft. laud had strong cat 2 conditions, i just remember the gusts were so pronounced more so than storms like jeanne which i was in west palm for.

but i am talking HIT like cat 4 and cat 5 conditions i just it is such a rare bird and a sizable amount of them tend to fall apart before hitting land (again thankfully)