Forum for active storms

[RL3AO]

So are we adding all invests or just those in the Atlantic?

[cycloneye]

So are we adding all invests or just those in the Atlantic?

We will add all the invests from all the basins.

[dougjp]

I like the format.

Dare I say it might be even better if some of the chatters get post banned from just this forum if they make meaningless off topic remarks, one liners, or use a page of punctuation.

I'm looking forward to this new format, plus please please also institute this posters suggestion. It would be great to escape Talkin' Tropics and its a solution where the kiddies and post count people can stay over there.

[MiamiensisWx]

I'm looking forward to this new format, plus please please also institute this posters suggestion. It would be great to escape Talkin' Tropics and its a solution where the kiddies and post count people can stay over there.

I concur, but there are some very bright young people here, many of whom have offered outstanding short and long analyses. Additionally, some great posters use different methods of communication, which could be misinterpreted as "chat". I think we should remove the offenders when they are found to be guilty of those charges, regardless of their age. It would be a shame to lose some contributions because of physical "age".

[Wren]

If you want to limit the number of threads in this forum, (which I think is a good idea) can we make it so that only mods can post new topics here?

I'm in absolute agreement with this. Means we won't have overlapping threads.

[dougjp]

I'm looking forward to this new format, plus please please also institute this posters suggestion. It would be great to escape Talkin' Tropics and its a solution where the kiddies and post count people can stay over there.

I concur, but there are some very bright young people here, many of whom have offered outstanding short and long analyses. Additionally, some great posters use different methods of communication, which could be misinterpreted as "chat". I think we should remove the offenders when they are found to be guilty of those charges, regardless of their age. It would be a shame to lose some contributions because of physical "age".

Agree. "kiddies" was an impression based on what I was reading there, and was a derogatory term based on the way they appear to act, regardless of their age. I think the original poster's " meaningless off topic remarks, one liners, or use a page of punctuation " definition is solid.

[Derek Ortt]

Threads about a storm need to be here... not just mod created threads. Otherwise, forum jumping is in order, confusing people

[fci]

I am all for adding current Invests to the Active Forum. Sounds like it still allows for great performance because of all the history in the Talkin Tropics main forum.

Now that we can go to one place for TD4 and 91L and future active systems I am very happy.

Thank you for listening!!!!

[KBBOCA]

Threads about a storm need to be here... not just mod created threads. Otherwise, forum jumping is in order, confusing people

Derek, if you're replying to what I wrote above about only mod created threads in this active storms forum, perhaps you're misunderstanding something. I agree all threads about an active system need to be here. I was not saying that some posts should be here and some in Talking Tropics.

But what I don't understand is why we need a separate thread for everyone's personal forecasts. We've already got those over on the Tropical Analysis board for pro mets and approved analysts. Why can't you and others (I'm not by any means wanting to single you out personally) put your links about a new forecast in the discussion thread about an active system? Or we could have the mods create a forecast thread for each system.

I would rather read through 1 discussion thread about a storm (or 1 model thread, or 1 recon thread, or 1 advisory thread) than having many discussion threads, or many model threads, or many forecast threads. I'm just looking for consolidation by broad topic, and also some standardization on how each storm is treated (the same set of maybe 5 or 8 sub threads by storm: models, discussion, advisories, forecasts, recon...) so as to make it easier to quickly find the info one is interested in. I thought mod-created threads would help achieve that.

[southerngreen]

i like the idea as it keeps the thread more streamlined, but i'm a little confused....

should i post a comment/observation/question here about td4?

this projection has changed drastically from last night showing a curve much earlier (last night still had it coming in on the texas coast)
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml

but the models page still shows a slightly southerly curve
http://skeetobiteweather.com/picservice ... m&m=90&a=2

can someone enlighten me?

(maybe i'm just not awake yet! )

[Chacor]

No, opposed to mods only creating threads - most mods (no offence at all intended) could care less about the other basins aside from Atlantic and those threads would end up not being posted at all, or if the thread is started the title will not be updated (the subforum header for "Active storms" isn't even updated regularly for non-Atlantic storms!), especially when the Atlantic is active.

[x-y-no]

No, opposed to mods only creating threads - most mods (no offence at all intended) could care less about the other basins aside from Atlantic and those threads would end up not being posted at all, or if the thread is started the title will not be updated (the subforum header for "Active storms" isn't even updated regularly for non-Atlantic storms!), especially when the Atlantic is active.

I'd say the issue is less about caring (or not) about other basins, but rather that we're not neccesarily around at any given time. I'd rather let all members have the power to start threads when they're needed and we'll just merge/move/delete inappropriate topics as we see them. The strength of this board is not concentrated so much in the staff as it is in our strong amateur and pro met members. It would be a shame to degrade that strength by over-regulation.

[x-y-no]

i like the idea as it keeps the thread more streamlined, but i'm a little confused....

should i post a comment/observation/question here about td4?

Best place to post comments and questions about TD4 is in the TD4 Discussion thread in this subforum.

[KBBOCA]

x-y-no, thanks for your replies. Having seen how several threads were merged yesterday, I'm cool with things as they are. What you say about the strength of this board being its pro mets and excellent amateurs is true, and so I totally retract the suggestion that only mods should be able to post topics here.

Yesterday morning it looked like we might have many of overlapping theads, but with the merging of several, all is well. Thanks for all you mods do!

[ncweatherwizard]

For what it's worth, a concern about merging personal forecasts into a single thread:

I think it's a great idea if we can figure out how to make it work. But I feel a little iffy by merging what may be several legitimate forecasts into the same thread as what may amount to guessing.

From the issue of forum management though, I think this may encourage unnecessarily long threads unless we can curb that early on. For example, when I post my forecast thread, I don't bump the thread, but rather edit the initial post to include the new forecast and edit the title. It keeps the thread small and compact. If we merge all the forecasts into one, people who edit their post to include a new forecast may have their post buried and lost within the thread while new posters write new forecasts and post as a new reply to the thread, and the only way to beat that would be to give in and post each forecast as a separate reply.
Additionally, different members have different posting techniques: I'll post a link that's not as visible (or physically large on the computer screen) as a full forecast that others may include.

Active storm forum is nice though...keep up the good work!

Scott

[Derek Ortt]

I would recommend ncweatherwizard be allowed to post in tropical analysis. He has done some decent research and is a junior now at UM. If not this year, then definately next year

[mf_dolphin]

Thanks for the input and recommendation Derek. I've brought it up for discussion in the Admin group.

[Hurrilurker]

This is probably too advanced, but here's what I'd like to see:

-- Six threads for each storm.

-- Three categories, as KBBOCCA suggests: Models, Recon, and General Discussion. Named consistently (I like capitalizing the storm name as you're doing now).

-- For each category, two threads, one of which goes from the present back to some given time period, say 48 or 72 hours. There would be a script running that periodically moves posts older than the time threshold into an archive thread.

-- The script would automatically change the title of the thread to reflect the current status of the storm (eg. "Tropical Storm DEAN" --> "Hurricane DEAN"). "Major Hurricane" might be an option too.

What is the benefit? Now you know a particular thread always contains fresh data (and you know exactly how fresh), and it's based on something less arbitrary than number of posts. You also avoid the problem of what happens when a storm fluctuates status, goes away and reforms, etc.

I dunno, just a thought.

[wx247]

Here is a question I have about the new format. If this is the wrong location for this question, feel free to move. If (or when) Dean (or another hurricane) comes close enough to the US mainland that we start getting evacuations, media coverage, etc... will we have a thread for that here in this subforum or will that be placed somewhere else?

[mf_dolphin]

We're talking about a landfall specific thread for each storm. We'll posts more information as we decide on how to do it .