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Re: Tropical Storm Dean - Global Models=18z GFS is being posted

#1761 Postby windstorm99 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:19 pm

Begining a possible WNW heading?
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean - Global Models=18z GFS is being posted

#1762 Postby WxGuy1 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:19 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:Explain what that means SFWX...?


It's an upper-level low that would be the driving force in providing a recurvature route for Dean (and providing increased vertical shear over Dean as well). If Dean can stay south enough, it may avoid being influenced by that ULL. If not, that ULL would help steer Dean northwestward. That eventual track of Dean depends upon the location and timing of that ULL (and associated upper-level cyclonic shear axis/trough). Of course, Dean's near-term intensity (through 48 hrs) impacts its latitudinal location as it nears the islands, which in turn will affect it's proximity to the ULL and the steering influences provided by that ULL.
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#1763 Postby storms in NC » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:20 pm

Nicaragua would be my guess. as long as it stays at 18-21 MPH stright line to Nicaragua.
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) Discussions,Analysis and Imagery

#1764 Postby marcane_1973 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:21 pm

The big problem with this storm is its been in a hurry from the get go and has never been able to hold a decent LLC for a long period of time. Dean needs to sloooooow down. Seems like he was given a major dosage of speed and crack before he left Africa. :lol:
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean - Global Models=18z GFS is being posted

#1765 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:22 pm

Thank you very much!
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#1766 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:22 pm

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Re: Tropical Storm Dean - Global Models=18z GFS is being posted

#1767 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:22 pm

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Re: Tropical Storm Dean - Global Models=18z GFS is being posted

#1768 Postby windstorm99 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:23 pm

Looks to be moving NW-WNW there...@138hrs.
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#1769 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:23 pm

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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) Discussions,Analysis and Imagery

#1770 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:24 pm

marcane_1973 wrote:The big problem with this storm is its been in a hurry from the get go and has never been able to hold a decent LLC for a long period of time. Dean needs to sloooooow down. Seems like he was given a major dosage of speed and crack before he left Africa. :lol:


I knew thats what they use to seed storms.LOL :lol:
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean - Global Models=18z GFS is being posted

#1771 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:24 pm

Now we're starting get closer to the point, where the models will show specific features that may be a little more verifiable in the mid-upper levels.
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#1772 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:24 pm

that UL could also shear Dean if it gets too close... but then again, it is a GFS projection
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean - Global Models=18z GFS is being posted

#1773 Postby Brent » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:25 pm

Looks similar to the previous run.
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) Discussions,Analysis and Imagery

#1774 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:26 pm

He'll slow down as the ridge starts to weaken due to upper level trough interaction.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/18/images/gfs_500_048l.gif
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#1775 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:27 pm

teh forward speed has no bearing on this having an LLC.

Please explain to me how slowing down when the upper easterlies are 30KT is good for the storm. How is increasing the shear going to help this


For the record, Allen and Ivan became cat 4s moving even faster
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean - Global Models=18z GFS is being posted

#1776 Postby storms in NC » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:28 pm

Brent wrote:Looks similar to the previous run.

Then Wed you will see it back going out to sea LOL.

But really on the speed it is going straight across.
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#1777 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:28 pm

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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) Discussions,Analysis and Imagery

#1778 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:28 pm

If this slows down more than it is moving now i think it may get norrth of the islands and a less chance for a bad strike in the carribean.
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#1779 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:29 pm

150

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_150l.gif

Little slower and a tad east from 12Z
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#1780 Postby Brent » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:29 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:teh forward speed has no bearing on this having an LLC.

Please explain to me how slowing down when the upper easterlies are 30KT is good for the storm. How is increasing the shear going to help this


For the record, Allen and Ivan became cat 4s moving even faster


Thank you Derek. There's a common misconception all over the internet that fast forward speed is bad. Sometimes I even buy into it and forget.
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