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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2921 Postby CronkPSU » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:04 pm

Bgator wrote:Can anyone name the storms that are the exception to the HErbert Box?


andrew and the labor day storm?
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#2922 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:04 pm

Can someone post EURO maps. I get it late for some reason
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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2923 Postby tgenius » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:05 pm

Andrew actually clipped the top corner of Hebert box.
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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2924 Postby Aquawind » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:05 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:Warmer waters is why he can remain at this intensity, plus... favorable upper level winds.


Exactly.. there is plenty of moisture in the envelop..now if it moves more north than suggested that may cut it off from the ITCZ..but untill then everything else is so favorable..so they say.. :lol: N/C @5pm
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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2925 Postby BirdyCin » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:06 pm

CronkPSU wrote:
Bgator wrote:Can anyone name the storms that are the exception to the HErbert Box?


andrew and the labor day storm?



I believe Betsy was another.
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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2926 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:06 pm

pavelbure224 wrote:South Fl news channels are doing hourly updates on Dean


Last night every channel started with Dean except T51. John Morales is a very conservative meteorologist that doesn't like to alarm the public without good reasons.
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#2927 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:07 pm

285˚ vs. 275˚ is not that much of a difference. lol. This could just be temporary too; when I look at the last few frames of the visible loop it seems to be heading west again. IMO, I think we should wait for the NHC's official call before jumping the gun and implying that this will definitely take a northward track again.
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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2928 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:08 pm

BirdyCin wrote:
CronkPSU wrote:
Bgator wrote:Can anyone name the storms that are the exception to the HErbert Box?

andrew and the labor day storm?

I believe Betsy was another.

No, Betsy wasn't.

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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2929 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:08 pm

Lokks like Dean is going to cross 13N at 48W, he wasn't suppose to reach 13N until 52W.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html
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#2930 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:09 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:285˚ vs. 275˚ is not that much of a difference. lol. This could just be temporary too; when I look at the last few frames of the visible loop it seems to be heading west again. IMO, I think we should wait for the NHC's official call before jumping the gun and implying that this will definitely take a northward track again.


Its not much of a difference and from the visible i still see a WNW track. maybe slight but criticial.
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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2931 Postby Bgator » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:10 pm

Has any hurricane gone through it, and not hit the FLA peninsula?
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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2932 Postby windstorm99 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:11 pm

Blown_away wrote:Lokks like Dean is going to cross 13N at 48W, he wasn't suppose to reach 13N until 52W.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html


Not suppose to reach 13n till 8am tommorow morning to be exact.
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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2933 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:12 pm

Bgator wrote:Has any hurricane gone through it, and not hit the FLA peninsula?


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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2934 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:13 pm

Can someone please post some EURO love?
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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2935 Postby ronjon » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:14 pm

I think what argues for some adjustment of the track more north or northwest through time is climatology. It would be unusual for a storm that formed at this latitude so far east to be a caribbean runner without recurving at some point. There are exceptions but they are few.
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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2936 Postby tgenius » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:15 pm

ronjon wrote:I think what argues for some adjustment of the track more north or northwest through time is climatology. It would be unusual for a storm that formed at this latitude so far east to be a caribbean runner without recurving at some point. There are exceptions but they are few.


It's not just climatology, you have the storm moving further north than the models are even initialized at. .5-.7N to begin with can change your path pretty significantly this far out.
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Re: Tropical Storm DEAN: Global Models

#2937 Postby Lowpressure » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:15 pm

Thanks for stepping in and stopping that garbage.
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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2938 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:15 pm

pavelbure224 wrote:South Fl news channels are doing hourly updates on Dean


Are you serious?!?!?!?!?
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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2939 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:16 pm

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Re: T.S DEAN: Discussions,18z Models,55kts,994 mbs,285 movement

#2940 Postby Bgator » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:17 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
pavelbure224 wrote:South Fl news channels are doing hourly updates on Dean


Are you serious?!?!?!?!?

SOuth FLorida news, especially channel 7 likes to overdue things...Its there job.
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