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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#5161 Postby Annie Oakley » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:22 pm

As an aside....sorry...thank goodness for NOAA Radio and Storm2k.org.!
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#5162 Postby vaffie » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:23 pm

tolakram wrote:
I'm really having a hard time figuring Dean out. I expected to see a much more organized core. This looks strong and violent, but not very organized. Are these odd pulses indicative of an organizing storm, or one that is having problems organizing?


My guess is that it's not that it's disorganized, it's just that it doesn't have sufficient moisture to work with yet. That will change on Saturday morning however.when it's south of Puerto Rico.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#5163 Postby jaxfladude » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:25 pm

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Dean Now the major headline on http://www.drudgereport.com/
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Re: 00z Guidance with gulfstream jet data starts at 11:30 PM EDT

#5164 Postby pojo » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:27 pm

CronkPSU wrote:so how much data will the 0z models have considering most of the recon numbers were lost? just the gulfstream's?

if the numbers were communicated via Radio (Not SATCOM) the NHC will use the numbers... if they weren't... they have to rely on what information we gave them in flight... and then we'd call them on the ground and relay the numbers.
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#5165 Postby jhamps10 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:32 pm

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ok my VERY early thoughts on Dean.

Cat chances at landfall (Yucatan)

cat 1= 5% or less

cat 2= 10%

cat 3= 20%

cat 4= 35%

cat 5= 30%

Landfall in U.S./Mexico, Cat 4 at 145-150 depending on time in the GOM next Thursday is my VERY first vague prediction.

Best chances are Texas and the very north end of Mexico. I think that all areas in the GOM really still needs to watch this closely, as well as western Cuba, and South florida, espically SW florida.

Will go into more details as we get closer.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#5166 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:34 pm

jschlitz wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:From Jeff Masters:

Jeff Lindner


Thanx, corrected my initial post...
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#5167 Postby LSU2001 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:34 pm

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I really do not like the looks of this run of the GFDL. Looks like it shows Dean shooting the gap b/w the yuc and cuba then turning north. I hope and pray that with the new Gulfstream data this run is total garbage.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#5168 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:36 pm

Latest radar..

the eye is coming very close now

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#5169 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:36 pm

NAM is VERY close to making direct strike on jamaica! Its slower with the ULL too
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#5170 Postby swimaster20 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:36 pm

:uarrow: That's the old 12z run, LSU. The new 18z is further south, sort of in line w/ the UKMET.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#5171 Postby LSU2001 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:37 pm

thanks swimmaster, I just got it off Weather underground so I was not happy.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#5172 Postby jhamps10 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:38 pm

LSU2001 wrote:Image

I really do not like the looks of this run of the GFDL. Looks like it shows Dean shooting the gap b/w the yuc and cuba then turning north. I hope and pray that with the new Gulfstream data this run is total garbage.
Tim


that was the 12z, 18z is a little better for US, but slams Yucatan with cat 5.
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Re: HR Dean: For any Island in the Carib that could be affected

#5173 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:39 pm

just put out the 11 p.m. update on nwhhc.com for those of you in the islands

The entire south coasts of the DR and Haiti need a Hurricnae Watch now due to the rapid forward speed and the expanding wind field
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#5174 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:40 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html

Hurricane Dean doesn't look like it's organized much tonight. But it still looks impressive. It'll probably stay at 100 mph at the 11 pm Advisory with a small chance of an increase to 105.
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Re: 00z Guidance with gulfstream jet data starts at 11:30 PM EDT

#5175 Postby CronkPSU » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:40 pm

pojo wrote:
CronkPSU wrote:so how much data will the 0z models have considering most of the recon numbers were lost? just the gulfstream's?

if the numbers were communicated via Radio (Not SATCOM) the NHC will use the numbers... if they weren't... they have to rely on what information we gave them in flight... and then we'd call them on the ground and relay the numbers.


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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#5176 Postby LSU2001 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:42 pm

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OK, is this the 18z???

I don't like it much better :grr: :grr:

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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#5177 Postby Deputy Van Halen » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:43 pm

I keep hearing Dean referred to as a "small" storm, meaning the geographic size and not the intensity. Is this a characteristic that is likely to remain for the storm's entire course? Or could it grow and possibly turn into a Carla- or Allen-like monstrosity?


P.S. Given the tendency to jump the gun on this board, I half expected to see this thread:


POLL: What name should replace the retired Dean on the 2013 list?

Vegas would probably give the best odds to Drew, though I'll be rooting for Doby. :P
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#5178 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:45 pm

Now, what models does this data go into?? Only AMERICAN models?? ie. gfs, nam, gfdl yada yada or all of them?
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#5179 Postby Category6 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:47 pm

It's not looking very organized at the moment.
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#5180 Postby wxmann_91 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:48 pm

The temporary weakening right now, I suspect, is due to decreased healthy inflow, likely the result of S. America.
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