Could Dean Cross Mexico and Enter the Pacific?

[gatorcane]

Looks like it has a chance it my opinion....

[RL3AO]

Those mountains are pretty high. I don't know if a circulation will, but some remnants could.

[PhillyWX]

If it can survive the 12,000 foot mountains without its circulation being totally ripped apart then sure it's got a shot.

[gatorcane]

we'll have to wait and see. 12,000 foot mountains are about as tall as the ones you see out in the snow peaks of Colorado. Actually the tallest mountain in Colorado is about 15,000ft

[weatherwoman]

if this does happen will it still be dean or will it get a new name?

[HURAKAN]

if this does happen will it still be dean or will it get a new name?

Under the laws established in 2001, if it keeps its LLC, which is very unlikely over such a mountanous terrain, it will still be called Dean in the EPAC. If it's LLC dissipates and the remnants develop in the EPAC, then it will be Gil.

[Ptarmigan]

Under the laws established in 2001, if it keeps its LLC, which is very unlikely over such a mountanous terrain, it will still be called Dean in the EPAC. If it's LLC dissipates and the remnants develop in the EPAC, then it will be Gil.

Interesting. I have never heard such a thing like that. Rarely any system keeps its LLC over the mountainous terrain. I usually would think if a storm croses over into the Pacific or Atlantic, they are given a different name based on the basin they developed in.

[AnnularCane]

I wonder just how often an LLC would actually survive a passage across Mexico or Central America enough to keep its name. I have never seen it happen.

[Ed Mahmoud]

12Z GFS kept trackable 700 mb vort max across Sierra Madre, strengthened it back up a little, and tracked it near Cabo san Lucas and up the Baja.

[wxmann_91]

Extremely unlikely. The highest mountains aren't until near the Pacific. When Dean hits them, it will be like paper into a shredder.

[weatherwoman]

if this does happen will it still be dean or will it get a new name?

Under the laws established in 2001, if it keeps its LLC, which is very unlikely over such a mountanous terrain, it will still be called Dean in the EPAC. If it's LLC dissipates and the remnants develop in the EPAC, then it will be Gil.

thanks for the info i was thinking i had heard something like this but was not sure how it worked would be neat to see happen since it most likely wouldnt harm any land then

[gatorcane]

Extremely unlikely. The highest mountains aren't until near the Pacific. When Dean hits them, it will be like paper into a shredder.

I think it has a shot. It's nearly back over the water and it still has a noticeable circulation on the VIS.

I'm curious if it can regenerate once over the Pacific.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/vis.jpg

[PhillyWX]

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dataphod1 ... 4epd26.png

It won't have much real estate before it gets into cold water anyways. I wouldn't be surprised if a piece of Dean's energy broke off and formed its own entity -- that's more plausible than Dean's mid level circulation spinning back down to the surface and reintensifying.

[tolakram]

000
ABPZ20 KNHC 231608
TWOEP
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1000 AM PDT THU AUG 23 2007

FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE.

A BROAD AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER...ASSOCIATED WITH THE REMNANTS OF
ATLANTIC HURRICANE DEAN...IS LOCATED NEAR THE COAST OF MEXICO IN
THE VICINITY OF MANZANILLO. DEVELOPMENT...IF ANY IS EXPECTED TO BE
SLOW AS THE SYSTEM MOVES WESTWARD OR WEST-NORTHWESTWARD OVER THE
NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IF THIS SYSTEM WERE TO REGENERATE INTO A
NAMED TROPICAL CYCLONE...IT WOULD NOT RETAIN THE NAME DEAN SINCE
DEAN DID NOT MAINTAIN ITS STATUS AS A TROPICAL CYCLONE OVER THE
MOUNTAINS OF MEXICO.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER PASCH

[Windsurfer_NYC]

It looks like the remnants of Dean have emerged over the Eastern Pacific, and been renamed 93E (Per NRL)

[gatorcane]

yep I figured that would happen...

here we go again..Dean in the EPAC

[CrazyC83]

yep I figured that would happen...

here we go again..Dean in the EPAC

It would be Gil, not Dean.

[CrazyC83]

I wonder just how often an LLC would actually survive a passage across Mexico or Central America enough to keep its name. I have never seen it happen.

It last happened in 1996 with Cesar (became Douglas as it used to be always renamed).

[cpdaman]

some women on the weather channel just said at 4pm : not to worry about anything re-emerging in the pacific from dean, it circulations was "stripped bare" over mainland mexico

now 93 goes up in E pac sorry mods but she sounds like a complete moron saying that (being a pro)

[Rieyeuxs]

Just curious. I remember I little storm named Ivan that circled around again. As I remember, it was only a remnent that reformed out of the original circulation. Did the NHC ever apply the "law" that Hurrican gave us to that? I never did quite understand the reasoning on that, but I remember reading a fierce debate here!