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Re: Hurricane Andrew Strikes South Florida August 24,1992.

#21 Postby Category 5 » Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:22 am

I found something intresting.

ZCZC MIAWRKAP4 LOC
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
BULLETIN
HURRICANE ANDREW SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 29
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
2 PM EDT SUN AUG 23 1992
...CORRECTION TO ADD THE STORM SURGE PARAGRAPH...
...HURRICANE WARNINGS RAISED FOR THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA...

HURRICANE WARNINGS REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR THE CENTRAL AND NORTHWEST
BAHAMAS...AND THE FLORIDA EAST COAST FROM VERO BEACH SOUTHWARD
THROUGH THE FLORIDA KEYS TO THE DRY TORTUGAS. A HURRICANE WARNING
IS IN EFFECT AT 2 PM EDT FOR THE FLORIDA WEST COAST SOUTH OF VENICE
...AND ALSO FOR LAKE OKEECHOBEE. A HURRICANE WATCH AND A TROPICAL
STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA EAST COAST FROM VERO
BEACH NORTHWARD TO TITUSVILLE...AND ON THE FLORIDA WEST COAST NORTH
OF VENICE TO BAYPORT.

ALL PRECAUTIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY...INCLUDING EVACUATIONS
ORDERED BY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS...SHOULD BE RUSHED TO
COMPLETION.

AT 2 PM EDT...1800Z...THE CENTER OF ANDREW WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 25.4 NORTH...LONGITUDE 75.8 WEST OR ABOUT 280 MILES
...450 KM...EAST OF MIAMI FLORIDA.

ANDREW IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 16 MPH...26 KM/HR...AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS. HURRICANE
CONDITIONS WILL SPREAD OVER THE NORTHWEST AND CENTRAL BAHAMAS TODAY
...AND ON THE PRESENT COURSE SHOULD REACH THE SOUTHEAST COAST OF
FLORIDA IN THE PREDAWN HOURS ON MONDAY.

THIS IS A DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE WITH MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS NEAR 150 MPH...240 KM/HR. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE
LIKELY BEFORE LANDFALL. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO
30 MILES... 45 KM...FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS
EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES...165 KM.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 922 MB...27.23 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 10 TO 14 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDES ARE
POSSIBLE FOR SOME LOCATIONS IN THE NW BAHAMAS...WITH UP TO 18 FEET
POSSIBLE FOR THE NW SIDE OF ELEUTHERA ISLAND. STORM SURGES OF 7 TO
10 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDES ARE POSSIBLE FOR THE FLORIDA EAST COAST
AND KEYS NEAR TO WHERE THE CENTER MAKES LANDFALL IN SOUTH FLORIDA...
WITH POSSIBLE HEIGHTS OF 9 TO 13 FEET IN BISCAYNE BAY. STORM SURGES
OF 7 TO 11 FEET ARE POSSIBLE ON THE FLORIDA WEST COAST AFTER THE
PASSAGE OF THE CENTER.

REPEATING THE 2 PM EDT POSITION...25.4 N... 75.8 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD
...WEST NEAR 16 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...150 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 922 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
5 PM EDT.

MAYFIELD



ZCZC MIAWRKAP4 LOC
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
BULLETIN
HURRICANE ANDREW ADVISORY NUMBER 30
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
5 PM EDT SUN AUG 23 1992

...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE ANDREW BEARING DOWN ON SOUTHEAST
FLORIDA...

HURRICANE WARNINGS REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR THE CENTRAL AND NORTHWEST
BAHAMAS...THE FLORIDA EAST COAST FROM VERO BEACH SOUTHWARD THROUGH
THE FLORIDA KEYS TO THE DRY TORTUGAS...THE FLORIDA WEST COAST SOUTH
OF VENICE...AND FOR LAKE OKEECHOBEE. A HURRICANE WATCH AND A
TROPICAL STORM WARNING ARE IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA EAST COAST FROM
VERO BEACH NORTHWARD TO TITUSVILLE...AND ON THE FLORIDA WEST COAST
NORTH OF VENICE TO BAYPORT.

ALL PRECAUTIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY...INCLUDING EVACUATIONS
ORDERED BY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS...SHOULD BE RUSHED TO
COMPLETION.

AT 5 PM EDT...2100Z...THE CENTER OF ANDREW WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 25.4 NORTH...LONGITUDE 76.5 WEST OR ABOUT 240 MILES
...385 KM...EAST OF MIAMI FLORIDA.

ANDREW IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 16 MPH...26 KM/HR...AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS. HURRICANE
CONDITIONS ARE SPREADING OVER THE NORTHWEST AND CENTRAL BAHAMAS AT
THE PRESENT TIME. HOPE TOWN ON GREAT ABACO ISLAND REPORTED WINDS TO
60 MPH DURING THE PAST HOUR. ON THE PRESENT COURSE...TROPICAL STORM
FORCE WINDS SHOULD BEGIN ON THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA COAST AFTER
MIDNIGHT...WITH HURRICANE CONDITIONS EXPECTED IN THE PREDAWN HOURS.

THIS IS A DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE WITH MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS NEAR 150 MPH...240 KM/HR...IN A SMALL AREA NEAR THE CENTER.
SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY BEFORE LANDFALL. HURRICANE
FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 30 MILES... 45 KM...FROM THE
CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105
MILES...165 KM.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 923 MB...27.26 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 10 TO 14 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDES ARE
POSSIBLE FOR SOME LOCATIONS IN THE NW BAHAMAS...WITH UP TO 18 FEET
POSSIBLE FOR THE NW SIDE OF ELEUTHERA ISLAND. STORM SURGES OF 7 TO
10 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDES ARE POSSIBLE FOR THE FLORIDA EAST COAST
AND KEYS NEAR TO WHERE THE CENTER MAKES LANDFALL IN SOUTHEAST
FLORIDA...WITH POSSIBLE HEIGHTS OF 9 TO 13 FEET IN BISCAYNE BAY.
STORM SURGES OF 7 TO 11 FEET ARE POSSIBLE ON THE FLORIDA WEST COAST
NEAR AND TO THE SOUTH OF THE CENTER AFTER THE PASSAGE OF THE
HURRICANE.

RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 5 TO 8 INCHES ARE EXPECTED ALONG THE PATH OF THE
HURRICANE.

REPEATING THE 5 PM EDT POSITION...25.4 N... 76.5 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD
...WEST NEAR 16 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...150 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 923 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 8 PM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY
ISSUANCE AT 11 PM EDT.

MAYFIELD




ZCZC MIATCPAT4
TTAA00 KNHC 240249
BULLETIN
HURRICANE ANDREW ADVISORY NUMBER 31
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
11 PM EDT SUN AUG 23 1992

...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE ANDREW BEARING DOWN ON SOUTHEAST
FLORIDA...

HURRICANE WARNINGS REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR THE CENTRAL AND NORTHWEST
BAHAMAS...THE FLORIDA EAST COAST FROM VERO BEACH SOUTHWARD THROUGH
THE FLORIDA KEYS TO THE DRY TORTUGAS INCLUDING FLORIDA BAY...THE
FLORIDA WEST COAST SOUTH OF VENICE...AND FOR LAKE OKEECHOBEE. A
HURRICANE WATCH AND A TROPICAL STORM WARNING ARE IN EFFECT FOR THE
FLORIDA EAST COAST FROM VERO BEACH NORTHWARD TO TITUSVILLE...AND ON
THE FLORIDA WEST COAST NORTH OF VENICE TO BAYPORT.

AT 11 PM EDT...0300Z...THE CENTER OF ANDREW WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 25.4 NORTH...LONGITUDE 78.1 WEST OR ABOUT 135 MILES
...220 KM...EAST OF MIAMI.

ANDREW IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 16 MPH...26 KM/HR... AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH MONDAY. ON THIS PATH THE
CENTER OF ANDREW WILL CROSS THE COAST NEAR MIAMI FLORIDA AROUND
DAYBREAK MONDAY MORNING.

ALL PRECAUTIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD NOW BE
COMPLETED. TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO SPREAD ACROSS
PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA COAST DURING THE NEXT FEW HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 140 MPH...225 KM/HR...AND
SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY PRIOR TO LANDFALL.
NASSAU...BAHAMAS...REPORTED SUSTAINED WINDS OF 85 MPH...WITH GUSTS
TO 105 MPH NEAR 830 PM EDT...0030Z.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 30 MILES... 45 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 105 MILES...165 KM.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 937 MB...27.67 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 10 TO 14 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDES ARE
POSSIBLE FOR SOME LOCATIONS ON THE NORTHWEST BAHAMAS...WITH UP TO 18
FEET POSSIBLE FOR THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF ELEUTHERA ISLAND. STORM
SURGES OF 7 TO 10 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDES ARE POSSIBLE FOR THE
FLORIDA EAST COAST AND KEYS NEAR TO WHERE THE CENTER MAKES LANDFALL
IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...WITH POSSIBLE HEIGHTS OF 9 TO 13 FEET IN
BISCAYNE BAY. STORM SURGES OF 7 TO 11 FEET ARE POSSIBLE ON THE
FLORIDA WEST COAST NEAR AND TO THE SOUTH OF THE CENTER AFTER THE
PASSAGE OF THE HURRICANE.

RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 5 TO 8 INCHES ARE EXPECTED ALONG THE PATH OF THE
HURRICANE.

A FEW ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE IN SOUTH AND CENTRAL FLORIDA
TONIGHT AND TOMORROW.

REPEATING THE 11 PM EDT POSITION...25.4 N... 78.1 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD
...WEST NEAR 16 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...140 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 937 MB.

INTERMEDIATE ADVISORIES WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 1 AM EDT AND 3 AM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT
COMPLETE ADVISORY ISSUANCE AT 5 AM EDT...MONDAY.

RAPPAPORT/GERRISH/PASCH


ZCZC MIATCPAT4 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
BULLETIN
HURRICANE ANDREW ADVISORY NUMBER 32
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
5 AM EDT MON AUG 24 1992

...ANDREW ASHORE NEAR HOMESTEAD FLORIDA...

HURRICANE WARNINGS REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR BIMINI ISLAND AND GRAND
BAHAMA ISLAND BUT HAVE BEEN DISCONTINUED FOR THE REST OF THE
BAHAMAS. HURRICANE WARNINGS CONTINUE FOR THE FLORIDA EAST COAST
FROM VERO BEACH SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE FLORIDA KEYS TO THE DRY
TORTUGAS INCLUDING FLORIDA BAY...THE FLORIDA WEST COAST SOUTH
OF VENICE...AND FOR LAKE OKEECHOBEE. A HURRICANE WATCH AND A
TROPICAL STORM WARNING ARE IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA EAST COAST FROM
VERO BEACH NORTHWARD TO TITUSVILLE...AND ON THE FLORIDA WEST COAST
NORTH OF VENICE TO BAYPORT.

AT 5 AM EDT...0900Z...THE CENTER OF ANDREW WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 25.4 NORTH...LONGITUDE 80.3 WEST NEAR TURKEY POINT
FLORIDA. THIS POSITION IS ABOUT 10 MILES EAST OF HOMESTEAD AND 25
MILES SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN MIAMI.

ANDREW IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 18 MPH AND THIS MOTION IS
EXPECTED TO TODAY. THE HURRICANE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE EXTREME
SOUTHERN FLORIDA PENINSULA TODAY BEFORE EMERGING INTO THE GULF OF
MEXICO THIS AFTERNOON.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 140 MPH AND SOME WEAKENING IS
LIKELY AS THE CENTER OF ANDREW PASSES OF THE FLORIDA PENINSULA.
DURING THE PAST HOUR...A SUSTAINED WIND OF 115 MPH WITH A GUST TO
138 MPH OCCURRED AT THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 45 MILES FROM THE CENTER
...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 140 MILES
FROM THE CENTER.

THE CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT
AIRCRAFT IS 932 MB...27.52 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING IS RECEDING IN THE BAHAMAS. STORM
SURGES OF 7 TO 10 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDES ARE POSSIBLE FOR THE
FLORIDA EAST COAST AND KEYS NEAR TO WHERE THE CENTER MAKES LANDFALL
IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...WITH POSSIBLE HEIGHTS OF 9 TO 13 FEET IN
BISCAYNE BAY. STORM SURGES OF 5 TO 8 FEET ARE POSSIBLE ON THE
FLORIDA WEST COAST NEAR AND TO THE SOUTH OF THE CENTER AFTER THE
PASSAGE OF THE HURRICANE.

RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 5 TO 8 INCHES ARE EXPECTED ALONG THE PATH OF THE
HURRICANE.

A FEW ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE IN SOUTH AND CENTRAL FLORIDA
TONIGHT AND TOMORROW.

REPEATING THE 5 AM EDT POSITION...25.4 N... 80.3 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD
...WEST NEAR 18 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...140 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 932 MB.

INTERMEDIATE ADVISORIES WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 7 AM EDT AND 9 AM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT
COMPLETE ADVISORY ISSUANCE AT 11 AM EDT.

RAPPAPORT/GERRISH/PASCH


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Re: Hurricane Andrew Strikes South Florida August 24,1992.

#22 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:02 pm

I've seen the advisories before... hurricane warnings weren't issued for SE FL until 8am Sunday, 20 hours before landfall. Not great warnings, and for the SW coast it was very similar. I don't know if the fast motion caught them off guard or what.

What is most fascinating to me though is three things:

A. How this was the FIRST storm of the year in Mid to late August!
B. How it struggled for days and was nearly declared dead.

Take a look at this, less than 4 days before it hit FL.

BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM ANDREW ADVISORY NUMBER 15
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
11 AM AST THU AUG 20 1992

...POORLY ORGANIZED ANDREW CONTINUES MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST...

AT 11 AM AST...1500Z...THE CENTER OF ANDREW WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 21.3 NORTH...LONGITUDE 61.3 WEST OR ABOUT 250 MILES
...400 KM...NORTH OF THE NORTHEASTERN LEEWARD ISLANDS.

ANDREW IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 10 MPH ... 17 KM/HR...
AND THIS GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24
HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 45 MPH... 75 KM/HR...AND
LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS LIKELY TODAY.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 85 MILES...
140 KM NORTH... AND 30 MILES...50 KM...SOUTH OF THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE BASED ON RECONNAISSANCE DATA FROM
AN AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT AIRCRAFT IS 1015 MB...29.97 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 11 AM AST POSITION...21.3 N... 61.3 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD
...NORTHWEST NEAR 10 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS... 45 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1015 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER
AT 5 PM AST.

1015 mb!!!!!! That is incredibly high.

and the third thing is perhaps the biggest thing... Andrew was the only noteworthy storm in 1992, and it was the costliest hurricane to hit the U.S. until Katrina. Proof that it only takes one storm to make a year memorable...

I know it's been said before, but Downtown Miami got off really lucky. It could have been SO much worse.
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#23 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:31 pm

At second landfall, Andrew fell victim to the NGOM like all storms tend to do and was a very marginal cat 3 at landfall with 100KT winds (it probably would have survived had it not have slowed just offshore, but it stalled and rapidly weakened down to what seems to be a convergence point for NGOM landfalls)

As for Miami learning from Andrew... I have seen no evidence of it. It have seen no evidence that the city learned from Wilma. Despite some heavy damage to the center of the city, construction of GLASS HIGHRISES was ACCELERATED after the storm. After going through Wilma, I have a far btetr apprecition as to how bad a cat 5 is... cat 1 winds with gusts over 110 did enough remodeling of the city in places... I never want to see a cat 5 (or even cat 3 winds) in a major American city
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#24 Postby LeeJet » Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:13 pm

Why is it that storms always weaken in the NGOM? How does that explain Camille and its 190 mph at landfall?
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#25 Postby ericinmia » Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:23 pm

LeeJet wrote:Why is it that storms always weaken in the NGOM? How does that explain Camille and its 190 mph at landfall?

That is why a lot of scientist are disputing those findings and as of a few months back were trying to prove that sustained winds that high would have been impossible. I forget but it has to do with the storm meeting colder dry air from the continental usa, and it being trapped as it heads north. We've had a few in recent years that all went through this. Rita, Katrina, Ivan...

I have no clue though... just stating what i've heard.
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#26 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:38 pm

Mark Powell in a recent BAMS article analyzed the winds to be about 127KT at landfall for Camielle.

That 190 is one of the worst scientific myths ever spread and one of the absolute worst HURDAT entries (even the NHC report said peak gusts were 190 and somehow it was put in as the sustained wind).

The very late warning for Miami was also bizarre. Seemed like we were using the French system (but everyone makes mistakes, Cuba did the same during Charley in 2004 and it does not fit into their usual warning procedure). Not sure why the warning was not issued at 5 A.M. The west coast warning was fine... far less leadtime is needed for a hurricane moving offshore over a location (which is why I did not eleive Miami needed a warning until 12 hours after NHC issued the warning)
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#27 Postby x-y-no » Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:51 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:At second landfall, Andrew fell victim to the NGOM like all storms tend to do and was a very marginal cat 3 at landfall with 100KT winds (it probably would have survived had it not have slowed just offshore, but it stalled and rapidly weakened down to what seems to be a convergence point for NGOM landfalls)

As for Miami learning from Andrew... I have seen no evidence of it. It have seen no evidence that the city learned from Wilma. Despite some heavy damage to the center of the city, construction of GLASS HIGHRISES was ACCELERATED after the storm. After going through Wilma, I have a far btetr apprecition as to how bad a cat 5 is... cat 1 winds with gusts over 110 did enough remodeling of the city in places... I never want to see a cat 5 (or even cat 3 winds) in a major American city


Yes, I was in the upper-end Cat 3 part of Andrew's north side and when I managed to get down to the marina late that Monday the gradient of damage was just astounding - every mile of northward progress one made corresponded to an order of magnitude less damage.

The contrast between my marina (Marriott Downtown - saw at most middling Cat 1) vs Dinner Key (saw probably middling to upper Cat 2) was just amazing. Serious damage vs. devastation. Never mind Black Point marina which I saw a couple of weeks later. :eek:

Most Miamians have no idea just how much more devastating Andrew would have been had he tracked a mere 15 miles further north or so.
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Re: Hurricane Andrew Strikes South Florida August 24,1992.

#28 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:10 pm

TWC as the eye made landfall, Jim Cantore, Dennis Smith, and John Hope!!! Those were the days...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0r784EAh44
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#29 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:44 pm

I have to admit, I was unimpressed with that TWC coverage. 4 minute updates for a landfalling cat 5 is not acceptable, at least by today's standards.

CNN now has consistently provided commercial free coverage for hours on end of landfalls, and they also provide good met information.

The best Andrew coverage, IMO, came from Dan Rather
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Re: Hurricane Andrew Strikes South Florida August 24,1992.

#30 Postby jaxfladude » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:47 pm

"Folks, we are going to be right in the 'eye' of history.." I forget who said those words.....
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Re: Hurricane Andrew Strikes South Florida August 24,1992.

#31 Postby windstorm99 » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:51 pm

Brent wrote:TWC as the eye made landfall, Jim Cantore, Dennis Smith, and John Hope!!! Those were the days...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0r784EAh44



I posted that one and a few others on my post in the thread.
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#32 Postby jaxfladude » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:55 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:I have to admit, I was unimpressed with that TWC coverage. 4 minute updates for a landfalling cat 5 is not acceptable, at least by today's standards.

CNN now has consistently provided commercial free coverage for hours on end of landfalls, and they also provide good met information.

The best Andrew coverage, IMO, came from Dan Rather


It was "rather" windy that morning when I watched him report live in the dawn of the 24th(from my home in Jax, just before my first day of being a senior in HS)....
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Re: Hurricane Andrew Strikes South Florida August 24,1992.

#33 Postby windstorm99 » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:12 pm

Here are a few more pics.....

Nobody expected the inpact andrew was going to have in the united states as we began to track it as a TS still far in the eastern atlantic....
:darrow: :darrow:

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Andrew getting closer to the bahamas and south florida
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Re: Hurricane Andrew Strikes South Florida August 24,1992.

#34 Postby sunnyday » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:13 pm

I will never forget the picture of the man wearing a garbage bag and carrying his chihuahua. He had nothing left except that dog. It was the most pitiful part of the storm to me, and still is.
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#35 Postby LeeJet » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:17 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:Mark Powell in a recent BAMS article analyzed the winds to be about 127KT at landfall for Camielle.

That 190 is one of the worst scientific myths ever spread and one of the absolute worst HURDAT entries (even the NHC report said peak gusts were 190 and somehow it was put in as the sustained wind).

The very late warning for Miami was also bizarre. Seemed like we were using the French system (but everyone makes mistakes, Cuba did the same during Charley in 2004 and it does not fit into their usual warning procedure). Not sure why the warning was not issued at 5 A.M. The west coast warning was fine... far less leadtime is needed for a hurricane moving offshore over a location (which is why I did not eleive Miami needed a warning until 12 hours after NHC issued the warning)


So how did this 190mph come to be? Do you think it hit land as a 5?
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#36 Postby LeeJet » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:21 pm

Ernesto really scared me.
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Re: Hurricane Andrew Strikes South Florida August 24,1992.

#37 Postby windstorm99 » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:39 pm

The voice during andrew that guided south florida during the storm....

Bryan Norcross Video
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Re: Hurricane Andrew Strikes South Florida August 24,1992.

#38 Postby Jinkers » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:46 pm

windstorm99 wrote:The voice during andrew that guided south florida during the storm....

Bryan Norcross Video


I remember that, my hubby and I thougtht we were going to die that nite, and his voice guided us thru that horrible nite.
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Re: Hurricane Andrew Strikes South Florida August 24,1992.

#39 Postby windstorm99 » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:47 pm

Jinkers wrote:
windstorm99 wrote:The voice during andrew that guided south florida during the storm....

Bryan Norcross Video


I remember that, my hubby and I thougtht we were going to die that nite, and his voice guided us thru that horrible nite.


There are more videos on page one when i first started the thread.
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#40 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:04 pm

I have no clue how the 190 mph came to be for Camielle. Very well could have been back then they focused more on the track and intensity was secondary when compiling HURDAT

Also, Bryan Norcrosse had very good coverage... just let the viewers provide the coverage. Did the same during Charley as well (not sure if CBS Ft Meyers was knocked off the air or what, but calls were being taken from Punta Gorda during the eyewall)
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