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#41 Postby mamadude » Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:39 pm

I'm not saying its right or wrong, Im saying there is one "judge" and that is the Good Lord Himself, it is equally as wrong to bash and talk about people as well, so if you want to start teaching the bible, may i suggest you read and learn the whole thing and not only take bits and pieces that fit your fancy...so if you think homosexuality is a sin, then look at gossip and Judging, everything your doing here....1 sin is no larger than another...there equal...so dont use the bible as your backup if you dont know what your talking about, remember God loves us ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!so there~~
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#42 Postby Lindaloo » Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:41 pm

mamadude wrote:I'm not saying its right or wrong, Im saying there is one "judge" and that is the Good Lord Himself, it is equally as wrong to bash and talk about people as well, so if you want to start teaching the bible, may i suggest you read and learn the whole thing and not only take bits and pieces that fit your fancy...so if you think homosexuality is a sin, then look at gossip and Judging, everything your doing here....1 sin is no larger than another...there equal...so dont use the bible as your backup if you dont know what your talking about, remember God loves us ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!so there~~


Point taken Mamadude. You are 100% correct about God being the Judge of US ALL.
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#43 Postby mamadude » Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:42 pm

wow, we agree on something also!!!! :o
see, there is a GOD!! :lol:
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#44 Postby Rainband » Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:43 pm

You think people would choose to live a life..where everyone persecutes them for who they are.... :o I guess your thought process differs from mine a tad! :o Ignorance is bliss and it it easier to persecute something we don't understand than it is to except it.... Ok.."j" what if you found out one of your kids was gay??? Believe me I know enough people to know this isn't a choice :idea: Think about it??
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#45 Postby Lindaloo » Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:44 pm

mamadude wrote:wow, we agree on something also!!!! :o
see, there is a GOD!! :lol:


Yes Ma'am... I know when I am outranked. :lol:
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#46 Postby j » Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:47 pm

THis Topic has gotten way out of hand. You are right Mama about the Bible and sin, and I respect your opinion. He who is without sin, shall cast the first stone. I have sinned, so perhaps I should step back and let this rest.

Great debate though just the same!!
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#47 Postby mamadude » Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:51 pm

No hard feelings J...just not sure a debate is good when your putting peoples feelings at stake, I bet if the truth was known there are some gay members in this storm2k family, and this topic could really hurt them, and for what....a debate, nothing wrong with a good debate, but lets use something other than people next time, deal?
take care and god bless.....again no hard feelings ok
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#48 Postby Lindaloo » Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:00 pm

Thank you mamadude!! You are a true gem.
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#49 Postby Rainband » Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:04 pm

j wrote:Right Widremann..the human race is not in dire straights in regards to procreation. However, and try to argue your way out of this one.....there are more gays today than yesterday, and there will be more tomorrow than today. Are you going to tell me they have all been in the closet for the last 2000 years? The lifestyle is being openly accepted and those who might have never considered it, now are led to believe that its cool, its what everybody is doing...and hey...you can ease into it with a little bi-sexualitly...that way you have nothing to lose.

It's just my lonely opinion, but I fear for the "fringe" child, that is bombarded dailey with images and ideas that are contrary to what their parents have tried to teach them. Experimentation with same sex is promoted, and they are vulnerable. You don't have kids (I am assuming) so you are at a disadvantage to argue this point. But go ahead..as I'm sure you will.
Do you read what you type..You make it sound like who these people are is a trend or a fad!!!!! You obviously have alot to learn..It's easier to hate someone for you I guess..and thank god..everyone isn't so blinded by hate!! I feel sorry for you. If everyone felt that way Slavery would still be around and the KKK would be like the F.O.E. on the every corner.
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#50 Postby WidreMann » Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:21 pm

The lifestyle is being openly accepted and those who might have never considered it, now are led to believe that its cool, its what everybody is doing...and hey...you can ease into it with a little bi-sexualitly...that way you have nothing to lose.


You assume that it is a pure choice. The only choice is whether to go ahead and accept one's homosexuality. Whether the homosexuality is already there is not a choice.

Replace homosexual with Jew or Muslim, for example, and you can see how this is nothing but fear of outsiders at it's finest. Don't try to dress it up with "protect The Children (tm)" or "it is wrong so sayeth The Bible", etc. It's nothing more than xenophobia, in the same class as racism, anti-Semitism and religious intolerance.
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#51 Postby Stormsfury » Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:02 pm

I happen to know quite a few people, both men and women that are homosexual/gay and it doesn't bother me one bit except one man who insisted on continually "hitting" on me ... that was my only problem, since I had explained quite clearly that I didn't mind that he was a gay man, but at the same time, I was not interested because I prefer women ...

Anyway, I'm responding in this thread because of the "choice" ... many people have stated that they "chose" to be that way ... From the ones I know here, yes, it's an ultimate "choice", but at the same time, I still believe that it's in their nature ... especially talking with a female friend that even though she "chose" to be that way, however, at the same time, I know it's deeper than that, call it a generic "defect" or whatever you will, but that's simply the way they are attracted to ... particularly in many of the gay community that I know, that is that's the way they are ... and that's the way most of them feel about it. It's really no different than myself being heterosexual, I am attracted to the opposite sex ... always have been, always will be as they are attracted to the same sex ...

Does this make them a bad person? No. Actions and the way a person lives life should be the determining factor if they're a bad or a good person ...
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#52 Postby Rainband » Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:10 pm

Stormsfury wrote:, I know it's deeper than that, call it a generic "defect" or whatever you will, but that's simply the way they are attracted to ... particularly in many of the gay community that I know, that is that's the way they are ... and that's the way most of them feel about it. It's really no different than myself being heterosexual, I am attracted to the opposite sex ... always have been, always will be as they are attracted to the same sex ...

Does this make them a bad person? No. Actions and the way a person lives life should be the determining factor if they're a bad or a good person ...
I agree with everything..except it being a defect..who are we to judge what is defective in a person?? I think there is alot[b] more wrong in this world than two people in love with each other living a happy life..not hurting anyone.. :wink:
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#53 Postby Stormsfury » Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:14 pm

Rainband, I did not mean for the generic "defect" to come across in a bad way at all ... that's too generalized a term for a chromosome that didn't develop normally so to speak ... it's a long medical explanation for that regard, and that's the only thing I meant by it (is an abnormally developed chromosome) ...

FWIW, I don't think it makes a person any better or any worse ... I treat everyone the same irregularless of race, sexual preference, background, etc., etc., etc..

I think there is alot more wrong in this world than two people in love with each other living a happy life..not hurting anyone


100% agreed.
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#54 Postby Rainband » Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:19 pm

I do too..a person is a person!!! :wink:
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#55 Postby wx247 » Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:24 pm

I agree with what Storms said 120%. :)

Sorry... I did it again. I typed Johnathon instead of Johnathan... some day I will get it right. Until then... bear with me. ;)
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#56 Postby JetMaxx » Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:27 pm

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#57 Postby Stormsfury » Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:38 pm

Perry, I'm not offended by your post ... in fact, it's a very good one ... and you've brought up very good points as well ... with prime examples ...
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#58 Postby Rainband » Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:44 pm

>>One point about the gay lifestyle that particularly angers me: When someone that is gay commits a crime (i.e.- molests children; sexually assaults someone; is vulgar or lewd in public)...and tries to use their being gay to "make it all right" or claims they are being "persecuted" because they are gay; deserve special rights and priveleges because their gay>>>

Anyone who commits a crime should be punished... By the way most petifiles are heterosexual and they molest girls or boys.. From what I have heard it's a control thing not a sex thing..I read that in the (NJM)I have never heard of anyone saying they sexually assaulted anyone because they were gay..Thats neither here nor there..I believe we discussed the hate crimes law in another thread..That law is so "people"..of race or sexuallity aren't killed just because they are GAY OR BLACK.or ARAB..You get the jist. And last but not least your opinion about a persons lifestlye is an opinion..I respect opinions but NO ONE! HAS the right to judge an individual they have never met..we all have one judge and he is the only one we need to worry about.. Those persecuting "people" they have never met or tried to has more to worry about than I do..I hope I didn't offend anyone either! :wink:
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#59 Postby hurricanedude » Thu Jun 26, 2003 6:01 pm

Goodness, what a topic for a weather forum. I have a story that may change all you homophobics attitude. I had a great friend, his name was Darren and he was in the US ARMY, he lived 2 lifestyles, he was married with 3 great kids, but he was gay...but had to hide it because he was ashamed, plus it would have created problems with his military career, to make a long story short..he has sinces perished in the war and guess what, he bled red blood just like you and me......he was an awesome guy, Im not sure if anyone knew he was gay but me, with this said...He knew where I stood and he knew that I'm straight, but yet we were able to become awesome friends because I didnt judge him for what he was, because what he was to me ....was an excellent friend who would give his life for anyone, and thats what he did in operation Iraq.....so see, the very ones that are getting bashed are the ones that are out there just as anyone giving there life for you and me. Appreciate what you have, if you think your living life the way your suppose to be, check again, I bet you all have done things that are wrong!!!! So see My buddy was gay, and he is dead...just like hundreds of straight soldiers..and to re-inerate what my mom said, why does it matter to anyone who or what anyone does, mind ones own business and leave everyone else alone
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#60 Postby Rainband » Thu Jun 26, 2003 6:06 pm

hurricanedude wrote:Goodness, what a topic for a weather forum. I have a story that may change all you homophobics attitude. I had a great friend, his name was Darren and he was in the US ARMY, he lived 2 lifestyles, he was married with 3 great kids, but he was gay...but had to hide it because he was ashamed, plus it would have created problems with his military career, to make a long story short..he has sinces perished in the war and guess what, he bled red blood just like you and me......he was an awesome guy, Im not sure if anyone knew he was gay but me, with this said...He knew where I stood and he knew that I'm straight, but yet we were able to become awesome friends because I didnt judge him for what he was, because what he was to me ....was an excellent friend who would give his life for anyone, and thats what he did in operation Iraq.....so see, the very ones that are getting bashed are the ones that are out there just as anyone giving there life for you and me. Appreciate what you have, if you think your living life the way your suppose to be, check again, I bet you all have done things that are wrong!!!! So see My buddy was gay, and he is dead...just like hundreds of straight soldiers..and to re-inerate what my mom said, why does it matter to anyone who or what anyone does, mind ones own business and leave everyone else alone
BRAVO!!!! :wink: 10 more days and DUDE IS BACK!!!!!!! :D
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