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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#261 Postby windstorm99 » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:04 pm

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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#262 Postby canegrl04 » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:09 pm

cpdaman wrote:the question i have is is this acquiring SUB tropical charactericstics

and also has there ever been a subtropical storm with hurricane force winds?

i think we are looking at a STD :oops:


That sounds yucky.I won't elaborate :cheesy:
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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#263 Postby miamicanes177 » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:10 pm

TCHP and SSTs are not very high as you go up the US east coast past north carolina. Any thoughts on how strong a hurricane the Carolinas on north could get in these waters...
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#264 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:14 pm

No reason why under a good set-up a system could reach major status, the most recent type system like this I'd guess would be Alex which made it upto cat-3 at 38N riding up the gulf stream it seems.
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#265 Postby Meso » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:17 pm

Here are current SST's Image
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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#266 Postby windstorm99 » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:18 pm

SST'S are much warmer as you approach the bahamas....
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#267 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:26 pm

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URNT10 KNHC 041647
97779 16304 30190 67100 73100 05022 68712 /5760
RMK AF306 WXWXA 07090415306 OB 01
SWS = 023KTS

Just came out at 12:47 PM. Is this a RECON mission?
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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#268 Postby HurricaneBelle » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:31 pm

canegrl04 wrote:
cpdaman wrote:the question i have is is this acquiring SUB tropical charactericstics

and also has there ever been a subtropical storm with hurricane force winds?

i think we are looking at a STD :oops:


That sounds yucky.I won't elaborate :cheesy:


Yes, hopefully this won't go from an STD to a full-fledged Herpescane.
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#269 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:32 pm

367
URNT10 KNHC 041729
97779 17024 30201 68800 73200 04019 67911 /5761
RMK AF305 WXWXA 07090415305 OB 01

Another one?? Flying towards 99L??
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#270 Postby sevenleft » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:37 pm

HURAKAN wrote:367
URNT10 KNHC 041729
97779 17024 30201 68800 73200 04019 67911 /5761
RMK AF305 WXWXA 07090415305 OB 01

Another one?? Flying towards 99L??
I suspect they are (both aircraft, 305 and 306) are flying back to Keesler so they can start missions on 99L tomorrow.

305 is over the Turks and Caicos, while 306 is north of Hispaniola.
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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#271 Postby Brent » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:40 pm

wxman57 wrote:Looks like a developing TS to me. Recon is set to investigate in 24 hours, I think it'll go straight to TS Gabrielle tomorrow unless the NHC decides to call it TD 7 this afternoon.


I agree, I am very surprised at how fast it has developed.

Looks similar to Bob 1991 to me... :eek:

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#272 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:42 pm

I am somewhat worried over this one

Too much model guidance indicating a significant TC
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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#273 Postby Nimbus » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:45 pm

They have floater 3 on it. drifting east?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t3/loop-vis.html
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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#274 Postby windstorm99 » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:47 pm

Nimbus wrote:They have floater 3 on it. drifting east?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t3/loop-vis.html


I see more of a ESE drift there...
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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#275 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:48 pm

The threat to the East Coast of Florida appears to be quite real this time....

interesting I'll be watching.
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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#276 Postby BigA » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:49 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:I am somewhat worried over this one

Too much model guidance indicating a significant TC


Although I really dont feel qualified to agree or disagree with you (I am only a freshman in college), and dont have any real technical expertise, I have never seen such a model consensus over a system that has not even reached tropical depression status. It seems like every single model, at least on this page, developes the system into a strong tropical storm or more http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/
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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#277 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:49 pm

Phase diagrams indicate moderate to deep warm core, not an STD:

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cyclonephase/hwrf/invest99l/fcst/archive/07090406/8.html
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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#278 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:50 pm

gatorcane wrote:The threat to the East Coast of Florida appears to be quite real this time....

interesting I'll be watching.


I'm thinking the greatest threat is to NC to southern New England, not Florida. It will develop, stall, drift west, then turn NW-N. Probably won't drift far enough west to reach FL before it turns north.
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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#279 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:52 pm

wxman57 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:The threat to the East Coast of Florida appears to be quite real this time....

interesting I'll be watching.


I'm thinking the greatest threat is to NC to southern New England, not Florida. It will develop, stall, drift west, then turn NW-N. Probably won't drift far enough west to reach FL before it turns north.


Thanks Wxman...
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Re: Atlantic: Invest 99L: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#280 Postby fci » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:04 pm

gatorcane wrote:The threat to the East Coast of Florida appears to be quite real this time....

interesting I'll be watching.


Chris:
Respectfully, I must say that the threat at this time to the East Coast of Florida is NOT quite real at this time.

It is quite real to the Carolinas and north

An FSU model takes it to FL and nogaps (I think) brings it here but not as a strong system at all.
The frightening models are the others which show quite a wrapped up system headed for NC and the Northeast and not Florida.

Thanks for not putting an :eek: in your post.
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