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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1761 Postby Blown Away » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:00 pm

Sanibel wrote:Yes, that red dot IR tells you what this storm is preserving once it finds a favorable environment. You better hope a ridge doesn't send this west north of the islands.


NWS Melbourne talks about the ridges merging and a TW moving across FL next week, wonder if TD8 is the TW?
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1762 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:00 pm

I personally would like to check a name off our list. I expect we will when recon gets in there. Who knows the future.
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1763 Postby Brent » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:00 pm

Sanibel wrote:Yes, that red dot IR tells you what this storm is preserving once it finds a favorable environment. You better hope a ridge doesn't send this west north of the islands.


Agreed, I'm watching this more closely now. I'm increasingly starting to think Ingrid will be born tonight.

Intensity forecasts have been way off this year, both high and low.
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1764 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:01 pm

Blown_away wrote:
Sanibel wrote:Yes, that red dot IR tells you what this storm is preserving once it finds a favorable environment. You better hope a ridge doesn't send this west north of the islands.


NWS Melbourne talks about the ridges merging and a TW moving across FL next week, wonder if TD8 is the TW?


Yes see above.....I agree with you.

I'm counting on this thing getting wrecked by shear...
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1765 Postby skysummit » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:02 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:I personally would like to check a name off our list. I expect we will when recon gets in there. Who knows the future.


Heck...that name could have already been checked off according to previous discos. I strongly believe we'll use it up tonight though :)
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1766 Postby MetroMike » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:08 pm

I would rather just see this pitiful system be put out of it's misery since it's not forecast to do much of anything anyhow.
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1767 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:10 pm

MetroMike wrote:I would rather just see this pitiful system be put out of it's misery since it's not forecast to do much of anything anyhow.


I guess we said the same about Gabrielle and Humberto before becoming Gabrielle and Humberto. It's September and anything can happen.
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1768 Postby Blown Away » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:15 pm

I know nothing is certain, but is the prediction of TD at the end of the forecast period the NHC's way of saying the system will be trending downward and dissipate?
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1769 Postby miamicanes177 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:17 pm

A NOAA hurricane plane is on its way as we speak to this system. We will have verifiable evidence from the plane within hours that can not be disputed. This will settle the dispute once and for all if TD8 has indeed strengthened by 5mph to 40mph and become a tropical storm as I believe it has.
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1770 Postby aguaviva » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:17 pm

HURAKAN wrote:
MetroMike wrote:I would rather just see this pitiful system be put out of it's misery since it's not forecast to do much of anything anyhow.


I guess we said the same about Gabrielle and Humberto before becoming Gabrielle and Humberto. It's September and anything can happen.



or Andrew, or Katrina or Hortense or Marylin or so many others that were once pitiful and almost written off...
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1771 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:21 pm

miamicanes177 wrote:A NOAA hurricane plane is on its way as we speak to this system. We will have verifiable evidence from the plane within hours that can not be disputed. This will settle the dispute once and for all if TD8 has indeed strengthened by 5mph to 40mph and become a tropical storm as I believe it has.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html

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Look at this latest visable loop. I think it's easily a TS, maybe even a little stronger then 40 mph.
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1772 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:31 pm

One thing is for sure. You can't write these systems off till the last cloud. I never though I'd wake up to Humberto being a Hurricane. Just a day ago it looked worse then TD8. All these systems need is a little room and boom. :eek:
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1773 Postby cpdaman » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:31 pm

gator cane from your posts you seem very worried about td 8 passing thru herbert box

you know a lot of storms have passed thru the herbert box and not effected s. fl right?

i mean alot of the storms that hit FL from the SE, or E have but that does not mean that most storms crossing the herbert box effect florida. you get what i'm saying

this is not two mutally exclusive statements
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1774 Postby canegrl04 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:34 pm

aguaviva wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:
MetroMike wrote:I would rather just see this pitiful system be put out of it's misery since it's not forecast to do much of anything anyhow.


I guess we said the same about Gabrielle and Humberto before becoming Gabrielle and Humberto. It's September and anything can happen.



or Andrew, or Katrina or Hortense or Marylin or so many others that were once pitiful and almost written off...


Its not a good idea to take seriously the forecasts for intensity.models are notoriously horrible at this end of the tropics game
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#1775 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:35 pm

What did the latest Quikscat say?
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1776 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:38 pm

As I have been saying for the past 3 days, I do not
see this weakening, and I do see it becoming a threat
to the SE US with a highest risk from South Florida
to the Carolinas.

Also as I have been saying for the past 3 days and
will continue to say, I expect a major hurricane in 5 days.
The shear forecasts were exaggerated since GFS and other
models love to exaggerate trough-shear strength.
And correspondingly, the ridge has been underestimated.
The further south this goes, the greater the threat
to 1) The Caribbean Islands/Bahamas and 2) SE Florida
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#1777 Postby punkyg » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:45 pm

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... _floater_1

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/rb-l.jpg

hey look guys that convection on the south side of td8's center is starting to dissapate. look at that deep convection over the center.

i knew when i asked that question about td8's morning sickness being over. that it was true. its over.
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Re: Trop Dep EIGHT (ATL): Discussions & Images 5 PM EDT page 87

#1778 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:52 pm

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/productview.php ... MLB&max=10

OUT OF MELBOURNE-
VERY STRONG RIDGE with Atlantic ridge merging with a contental
ridge. TD 8 will likely NOT recurve.
Mon-thu this thing goes WNW for 7 days..that would
bring it to the Bahamas...

gatorcane mentioned this earlier.

MON-THU...THE CONTINENTAL RIDGE RIDING BEHIND THE DEVELOPING
STORM SYSTEM WILL PUSH INTO NEW ENGLAND EARLY NEXT WEEK WHERE IT
WILL MERGE WITH THE ATLC RIDGE. WITH THE RIDGE AXIS LOCATED SO FAR
TO THE N...ANY STORM SYSTEMS THAT DEVELOP OVER THE CONUS WILL BE
FORCED UP THE BACKSIDE OF THE RIDGE WHERE THEIR ABILITY TO PUSH
THE RIDGE AXIS BACK TO THE S WILL BE GREATLY LIMITED. THE RESULT
WILL BE A DOMINANT ERLY FLOW REGIME THROUGH MOST OF NEXT WEEK.
THESE ERLIES COULD PUSH A T-WAVE ACROSS FL BY MID WEEK.
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#1779 Postby punkyg » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:52 pm

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... wg8shr.GIF
In this shear map it looks like td8 is in 5kt to 10kt shear, but i can't really tell. if you wanna correct me about the shear go ahead.
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#1780 Postby aguaviva » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:54 pm

TD 8 reminds me of one of those Caribbean cockroaches that you hit over and over with a shoe and still manage to keep on running away from certain death. Cicloneye and Hurakan know what I am talking about.
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