Tropical Depression TEN: Model Runs

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Re: INVEST 93L: Model Runs

#101 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:14 pm

I'll buy lunch for whomever knows the answer to this question. What track is used for SHIP and DSHP guidance?
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Re: INVEST 93L: Model Runs

#102 Postby ROCK » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:15 pm

wxman57 wrote:I'll buy lunch for whomever knows the answer to this question. What track is used for SHIP and DSHP guidance?



I am googling as I type....dont go any where..... :lol: :lol:
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#103 Postby caneman » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:21 pm

GFS???
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#104 Postby gboudx » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:22 pm

NHC.

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Re: INVEST 93L: Model Runs

#105 Postby JTD » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:24 pm

wxman57 wrote:I'll buy lunch for whomever knows the answer to this question. What track is used for SHIP and DSHP guidance?


Isn't it CONU? And if not CONU, Bamm right?
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Re: INVEST 93L: Model Runs

#106 Postby ROCK » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:26 pm

CONU........I am guessing....didnt find nothing on google.... :D
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#107 Postby caneman » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:27 pm

How bout MRF?
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#108 Postby Stratosphere747 » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:29 pm

I believe it used to be the "GUNS."
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Re: INVEST 93L: Model Runs

#109 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:32 pm

I don't know the answer to my question, guys. I'm trying to find out what track the NHC uses for the SHIP and DSHP guidance when there is no NHC track. I would think that the decision may be flexible. What are they using for the 00Z tonight runs? The reason I'd like to know is because the chosen track can greatly impact the intensity forecast.
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Re: INVEST 93L: Model Runs

#110 Postby caneman » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:34 pm

http://www.hurricanealley.net/hurmdls.htm


Maybe you can find it here. I saw something about VICbar model based on cllimo and other things..
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#111 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:36 pm

I think the ship uses the Lbar...
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Re: INVEST 93L: Model Runs

#112 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:36 pm

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Re: INVEST 93L: Model Runs

#113 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:37 pm

I suppose I can email the tstorms group as most of the NHC forecasters are on it. Surely, THEY know what they use.
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#114 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:37 pm

The SHIPS track is based off of the medium BAM before being declared a TD and off of the interpolated official NHC forecast once forecasts are being issued (note for the non mets, I did NOT say advisories... I said forecasts, which sometimes come prior to the issuance of advisories)
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Re: INVEST 93L: Model Runs

#115 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:38 pm



That for comic relief?
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Re: INVEST 93L: Model Runs

#116 Postby Stratosphere747 » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:38 pm

wxman57 wrote:I don't know the answer to my question, guys. I'm trying to find out what track the NHC uses for the SHIP and DSHP guidance when there is no NHC track. I would think that the decision may be flexible. What are they using for the 00Z tonight runs? The reason I'd like to know is because the chosen track can greatly impact the intensity forecast.


Not sure if they base it on the "GUNS." At one time I thought they did.


GUNS. James Goerss of the Naval Research Laboratory in Monterey, California, demonstrated that a simple consensus of the GFDL, UKMET and NOGAPS models was about 20% more accurate at 24, 48 and 72 hrs than the best of individual models. The National Hurricane Center confirmed his results and dubbed the ensemble "GUNS," using the initials of the three models.
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Re: INVEST 93L: Model Runs

#117 Postby ROCK » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:39 pm

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#118 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:39 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:The SHIPS track is based off of the medium BAM before being declared a TD and off of the interpolated official NHC forecast once forecasts are being issued (note for the non mets, I did NOT say advisories... I said forecasts, which sometimes come prior to the issuance of advisories)


I'll check that out, Derek. If you're right, I owe you lunch. Have to get over here to collect, though.
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#119 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:39 pm

see my post above for the correct answer
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#120 Postby ROCK » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:42 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:see my post above for the correct answer



Hey Derek, can I take your lunch since I live down the street? :lol:
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