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Re: INVEST 94L: Gulf of Mexico : Discussions & Images
Thanks...I've gotten pretty good at reading that. Just making the above statement that I didnt see anything major with all the "happenings"...
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URNT15 KNHC 251631
AF305 01JJA INVEST HDOB 08 20070925
162400 2724N 09151W 4859 06125 0341 -089 -089 097006 006 999 999 03
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163030 2654N 09152W 4854 06130 0339 -079 -089 083004 005 999 999 03
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163230 2645N 09152W 4855 06140 0350 -075 -095 090004 005 999 999 03
163300 2642N 09153W 4854 06141 0349 -075 -097 072004 005 999 999 03
163330 2640N 09153W 4854 06140 0349 -075 -099 045004 004 999 999 03
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URNT15 KNHC 251631
AF305 01JJA INVEST HDOB 08 20070925
162400 2724N 09151W 4859 06125 0341 -089 -089 097006 006 999 999 03
162430 2723N 09153W 4852 06126 0331 -085 -089 063004 005 999 999 03
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162730 2709N 09153W 4854 06140 0348 -081 -091 316004 004 999 999 03
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163330 2640N 09153W 4854 06140 0349 -075 -099 045004 004 999 999 03
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UZNT13 KNHC 251632
XXAA 75165 99276 70916 08271 99016 27443 10019 00137 26231 09518
92822 21427 10518 85551 16820 10513 70187 09040 11009 50590 06905
15504 88999 77999
31313 09608 81620
61616 AF305 01JJA INVEST OB 04
62626 SPL 2756N09164W 1628 MBL WND 10020 AEV 00000 DLM WND 11012
014494 WL150 09518 085 =
XXBB 75168 99276 70916 08271 00016 27443 11850 16820 22675 07442
33485 08500
21212 00016 10019 11976 10021 22946 09515 33924 11018 44883 10014
55864 10517 66850 10513 77653 10515 88621 13514 99597 13011 11485
02002
31313 09608 81620
61616 AF305 01JJA INVEST OB 04
62626 SPL 2756N09164W 1628 MBL WND 10020 AEV 00000 DLM WND 11012
014494 WL150 09518 085 =
UZNT13 KNHC 251632
XXAA 75165 99276 70916 08271 99016 27443 10019 00137 26231 09518
92822 21427 10518 85551 16820 10513 70187 09040 11009 50590 06905
15504 88999 77999
31313 09608 81620
61616 AF305 01JJA INVEST OB 04
62626 SPL 2756N09164W 1628 MBL WND 10020 AEV 00000 DLM WND 11012
014494 WL150 09518 085 =
XXBB 75168 99276 70916 08271 00016 27443 11850 16820 22675 07442
33485 08500
21212 00016 10019 11976 10021 22946 09515 33924 11018 44883 10014
55864 10517 66850 10513 77653 10515 88621 13514 99597 13011 11485
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31313 09608 81620
61616 AF305 01JJA INVEST OB 04
62626 SPL 2756N09164W 1628 MBL WND 10020 AEV 00000 DLM WND 11012
014494 WL150 09518 085 =
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Re:
Derek Ortt wrote:94L has been a TD since yesterday. It has just not been classified as such
I agree. A TD is a TD...it just isn't "official" yet. The lack of "on-time" naming of TD's is the reason for so many first advisory tropical storms...
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Re: INVEST 94L: Gulf of Mexico : Discussions & Images
System looks trapped to me...What concerns me is next week as the Eastern GOM needs to be alert.
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CrazyC83 wrote:I wonder if we will find TD13 (or TS Lorenzo)?
I say it is highly dependent on whether the recent large burst of convection persists near the LLC. I say TD on arrival, then minimal TS before departure from the system. I think the wind will support TS, it will be deciding if it is squall induced or actual storm strength. IMO.
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Re: INVEST 94L: Gulf of Mexico : Discussions & Images
I would think an eventual SW movement for this system.
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RL3AO wrote:Could a stronger storm track differently than a weak storm?
I would almost say the question would be, how long does this sit in the BOC, before it could take a different track? I really do not see strength making a big difference in this scenario. Always have to watch upwelling here too.
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URNT15 KNHC 251658
AF305 01JJA INVEST HDOB 09 20070925
163400 2637N 09153W 4854 06141 0349 -077 -099 065004 004 999 999 03
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164230 2556N 09150W 4854 06140 0348 -075 -105 062005 005 999 999 03
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164330 2554N 09150W 4854 06140 0349 -075 -099 051005 006 999 999 03
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AF305 01JJA INVEST HDOB 09 20070925
163400 2637N 09153W 4854 06141 0349 -077 -099 065004 004 999 999 03
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URNT15 KNHC 251659
AF305 01JJA INVEST HDOB 10 20070925
164400 2554N 09150W 4854 06140 0349 -075 -099 051005 006 999 999 03
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AF305 01JJA INVEST HDOB 10 20070925
164400 2554N 09150W 4854 06140 0349 -075 -099 051005 006 999 999 03
164430 2554N 09150W 4854 06140 0349 -075 -099 051005 006 999 999 03
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URNT15 KNHC 251702
AF305 01JJA INVEST HDOB 11 20070925
165400 2458N 09148W 4854 06116 0325 -075 -101 085007 007 999 999 03
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URNT15 KNHC 251702
AF305 01JJA INVEST HDOB 11 20070925
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Re: INVEST 94L: Gulf of Mexico : Discussions & Images
I remember reading several years ago that storms that get trapped in the BOC need a very strong pull northward to do anything other than go deep into Mexico. It is getting to be that time of year, but I'm not sure any troughs will be strong enough and get close enough to have an affect, assuming it is still trapped down there this weekend.
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Kennethb wrote:What goes on in the Bay of Campeche, stays in the Bay of Campeche?

Though that was a fairly deep mid-level trough that did that, of course . . . so what Brent said is essentially correct.
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URNT15 KNHC 251711
AF305 01JJA INVEST HDOB 12 20070925
170400 2417N 09202W 4854 06145 0354 -075 -089 097012 013 999 999 03
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170800 2406N 09216W 5828 04732 0198 -003 -003 099010 011 999 999 03
170830 2405N 09218W 6039 04465 0229 +010 +010 089007 009 999 999 03
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171300 2352N 09233W 8636 01403 0146 +176 +164 093017 018 999 999 03
171330 2350N 09235W 8956 01095 0153 +194 +174 090015 015 999 999 03
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URNT15 KNHC 251711
AF305 01JJA INVEST HDOB 12 20070925
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