All Bark No Bite

[gatorcane]

Maybe an effect of GW, maybe it's just normal, nevertheless, THANKS TO THE SEASON FOR WHAT SOME CALL "ALL BARK NO BITE!"

I agree totally. I like all bark and no bite -- I am not complaining at all

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

Maybe an effect of GW, maybe it's just normal, nevertheless, THANKS TO THE SEASON FOR WHAT SOME CALL "ALL BARK NO BITE!"

Lol...as a storm-chaser for 15 years there is both a good and bad side to a relavitely
quiet season...

thank god that many who have suffered in the past are getting some relief

but there is nothing good to chase this year... except barry gave
me some thrill when the harsh winds roared that rain it was awesome
to watch..

[Steve]

Gator,

What's the point in even making a thread like this before at least mid-November? 11/3/2 vs. 11/6/2? All bark, no bite? No. History of 2007 is to be continued...

JMO

[HURAKAN]

2005 was very destructive but we couldn't have enough of it to be satisfied. As more storms formed, more we wanted. I guess as a hurricane enthusiast it's common nature.

Now people want to get the same amount of satisfaction with normal seasons. That's impossible.

[Steve]

I agree. Maybe they should just compare everything to 2005 and make it the baseline for their future excitement or something. Every year is different. Every year presents different threats and different scenarios. I'm still calling e-bleep waving on all these types of threads.

Steve

[ConvergenceZone]

Yea, I'm only checking this board about once every couple of days now...Nothing EXCITING at all going on in the tropics...Sure there are many pathetic looking systems, but that doesn't say much......

[KWT]

I'd hardly say Lorenzo looks pathetic ConvergenceZone, its a rapidly developing tropical storm that has every chance of becoming a hurricane, indeed its developing as fast as the record breaker Humberto right now, if not faster!

[cpdaman]

overall this season has been very good to U.S home owners, and bad for sparcely populated areas of central america ("if all you care about is the atlantic/ caribean")


many like to get on there soap box and shout "oh pooh you just care about the u.s you awful human being". it makes them feel like a better person so i just shrug.

it is human nature to be excited about storms that bring danger. some deny it. others may feel guilty about it. I don't.

to those that say it wasn't a quiet season because central america got pounded (well based on that logic i would say did you forget about those in the gulf of OMan who suffered serious flooding and numerous deaths from cyclone's or those in japan and taiwan who bore the brunt of many storms. it's like you fault other's for zeroing in on the united states, by pointing out central american hits, when you don't mention the pacific or indian ocean storms.

it's either the whole world or the united states ( or whereever you may live, or HAVE LOVED ONE'S). you can't have it both ways.

[Category 5]

I have to resurrect this thread because I still think this saying has been holding (since Dean/Felix/Humberto)....

lots of invests and activity but nothing to write home about.....

Lots of shear has plagued the Atlantic....

anything that attempts to go north of 15N has been sheared to bits.

Look.

If the season ended today it would be above average (12 storms vs the average of 11). Two category 5's have made landfall, something thats never happened in a single season. We had one of the 10 most intense Atlantic Hurricanes on record. At least 183 people have been KILLED this season. Parts of Mexico and Central America are in RUINS. And your calling it all bark no bite????? What to you qualifys as active????

Oh and by the way, we've had 7 named storms this month, more then September of 2005.

[KWT]

Sadly Category 5 an active season to some people has a landfalling major in the USA...
doesn't matter that there have been two landfalling cat-5's in central America as its not hitting them.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

Look you all CAN'T deny the fact that
North of the Caribbean almost everything
has been sheared/weak or ripped apart
except for that Freak Humberto.
Yes the season HAS been very active
but NOT compared to what was expected
for CERTAIN states that have been targeted
viciously in the past.
When I heard 17 storms I though holy crap
FL is really in for it.

Obviously this is the MOST VIOLENT HURRICANE
SEASON EVER for areas of central america.


This has been one of the quietest
seasons florida has seen--- I mean the
worst that hit florida was a Tropical Storm Barry,
and I hear that that may have been a depression
at landfall...It IS all bark no bite for FLORIDA,
but not for central america.
That is the point I am making here.

Ask any floridian. This is one year we havent
had to be even threatened by anything more
than a weak depression. 2007 for FLORIDA is
quieter than 2001, 2000, 2003, 2002, heck its one
of the quietest EVER in FL.

So in the context of FL gatorcane's post about quiet
applies to FL and makes 100% PERFECT SENSE.

As I stated- ABOVE the caribbean shear has blasted
much apart

And before anyone asks- I DO NOT THINK that
FLORIDA = THE ENTIRE TROPICS.

And also before anyone asks- I do know that
the season is far from over and that even
super quiet areas like FL can be threatened.

[Category 5]

..............

[Dean4Storms]

Well for the US the season thus far has been mostly all bark and no bite. Humberto is about it as far as anything serious.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

This has been one of the quietest
seasons florida has seen--- I mean the
worst that hit florida was a Tropical Storm Barry,
and I hear that that may have been a depression
at landfall...It IS all bark no bite for FLORIDA,
but not for central america.
That is the point I am making here.

I only see two people complaining.

After the events of 2004 and 2005 I can't fathom how any person can wish for a hurricane, let alone somebody in Florida. It just defies logic.

I've made my point, I'll shut up now.

No no no--- I am not wishing for a hurricane at all!
I do wish for 40 mph tropical storms- but Not hurricanes.

And also I was just making an observation- for Florida
this has been one of the queitest seasons.

And I wasn't meaning to complain about no hurricane, i was
just pointing out that gator's original statements did indeed
verify so far for FL.

[Category 5]

This has been one of the quietest
seasons florida has seen--- I mean the
worst that hit florida was a Tropical Storm Barry,
and I hear that that may have been a depression
at landfall...It IS all bark no bite for FLORIDA,
but not for central america.
That is the point I am making here.

I only see two people complaining.

After the events of 2004 and 2005 I can't fathom how any person can wish for a hurricane, let alone somebody in Florida. It just defies logic.

I've made my point, I'll shut up now.

No no no--- I am not wishing for a hurricane at all!
I do wish for 40 mph tropical storms- but Not hurricanes.

And also I was just making an observation- for Florida
this has been one of the queitest seasons.

Sorry if I misunderstood you. They're are plenty of people who seem to PRAY for major hurricanes.

In fact, parts of Florida could actually use a TD/Weak TS. Last I heard, the drought is still going.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

That's okay- the confusion is understandable because I have been
wishing for minimal tropical storms all season long...sometimes
saying it many times each day- so it is understandable
that one reading my post could see it as a desire for a hurricane, even though
it wasn't specifically meant that way.

[ConvergenceZone]

not complaining, just stating facts. I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and act as if this season has been active for the USA mainland when it hasn't been....Like Tampa said, anything coming near the US gets sheared apart or doesn't develop into much of anything at all...Nobody can deny that.

[Category 5]

not complaining, just stating facts. I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and act as if this season has been active for the USA mainland when it hasn't been....Like Tampa said, anything coming near the US gets sheared apart or doesn't develop into much of anything at all...Nobody can deny that.

My point is, The activity of an Atlantic Hurricane Season isn't determined by how many storms hit the U.S.

[jlauderdal]

Well here we are nearly in mid September and all that is formed is a highly sheared T.S. Gabrielle. We just passed the peak of the season and still nothing signficant this month.

Each TWO from the NHC looks full of activity going on in the Atlantic but when it comes down to it, seems like most invests can't make it any further.

92L really has me wondering. How can an invest that looked so good and even the pro mets were thinking could develop suddenly goes poof?

91L has a 30-40% chance of development by the pro mets...and is taking its sweet time to get going. It may not even develop at all (would that be a let down for many on this board or what?)

Then you have experts saying La Nina is in full swing and things should ramp up soon. I'd like to agree with them but as each day goes by those CONUS fronts win out the battles and the waters in the GOM and off the EC of the US will slowly begin to cool.

What is going?

It's all Bark on No Bite

does gray do a post hurricane season self-analysis, i hear alot of noise out of his department early in the season but not much the last two seasons from him say in December, just curious. would be interested to see what kind of funding he gets, that i will dig up on my own.

[Steve]

Let's look at some facts (with Lorenzo currently intensifying prior to landfall):

1) Score is 12/4/2 now; over the named storm average with the potential of at least 1 additional tropical storm in the reanalysis.

2) We're on our 4th landfalling hurricane - amazing in any season.

3) Total North American Landfalls: 6 (7 if you count Chantal as extratropical hit on eastern Canada) - also amazing in any season. Lorenzo will likely be added to number tomorrow making it 7 landfalling, named storms with a +/- month and a half to go.

It's not all bark this season no matter what anyone is saying. Not only that, it is a very interesting season (IMO). Particularly interesting to me has been the way W Gulf storms were intensifying while landfalling. When it's all said and done, if 10 named storms of various intensity end up landfalling in North America this season, will it have been all bark? I don't think so. It's going to be 7 by tomorrow, and that's an extreme year by anyone's definition.

Steve