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#1001 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:50 pm

If upgraded at the 7 pm advisory, would this be the fastest ever a storm went from TD to hurricane?
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#1002 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:04 pm

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#1003 Postby RL3AO » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:15 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:If upgraded at the 7 pm advisory, would this be the fastest ever a storm went from TD to hurricane?


Probably operationally, but it will be changed in the best track.

Also, I find it funny that the Spanish advisory is up to date on Karen, but there are none for Lorenzo.
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#1004 Postby PhillyWX » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:42 pm

This reminds me a bit like Stan, only farther north.
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#1005 Postby PhillyWX » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:45 pm

RL3AO wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:If upgraded at the 7 pm advisory, would this be the fastest ever a storm went from TD to hurricane?


Probably operationally, but it will be changed in the best track.

Also, I find it funny that the Spanish advisory is up to date on Karen, but there are none for Lorenzo.


I wish I could find it funny as well. :(

I don't mean to rip the NHC on this, but looking at the storm at 11 AM it looked like a TS to me. Dvorak has been wrong before and this should have been one of those cases where radar was used and given the presentation and how it was going to continue to strengthen an upgrade would have been prudent at 11 AM. It looks bad for them to have to upgrade from a TD to a 60 mph TS at 2 PM ET because they relied on computer estimates and waited for the recon.
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#1006 Postby HurricaneRobert » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:59 pm

PhillyWX wrote:This reminds me a bit like Stan, only farther north.


This is like another one from that season - Jose.
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#1007 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:00 pm

PhillyWX wrote:This reminds me a bit like Stan, only farther north.


The difference is that Stan was moving faster.
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Re: Tropical Storm LORENZO: BOC : Discussions & Images

#1008 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:00 pm

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Look at the white spot in the center, very intense convection.
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#1009 Postby PhillyWX » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:01 pm

HurricaneRobert wrote:
PhillyWX wrote:This reminds me a bit like Stan, only farther north.


This is like another one from that season - Jose.


Or Bret or Gert. There were a few in 2005 that blew up and moved inland.
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#1010 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:03 pm

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Looking like a hurricane!!!
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#1011 Postby HurricaneRobert » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:04 pm

Stan took a while to develop. Wasn't it able to pull moisture in from the Pacific, soaking Guatemala completely? Lorenza has a lot of power, but not the abilities of that storm.
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#1012 Postby punkyg » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:06 pm

Guys i'm excited this is gonna be my first time seeing a hurricane that looks like a lopsided ball.

do you think lorenzo will be stronger then 80mph
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Re: Tropical Storm LORENZO: BOC : Discussions & Images

#1013 Postby BigA » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:09 pm

I honestly hope the people there are ready for this storm. Theres a radar image at this site. http://johnzap.com/WEATHERveracruz.html
If you are so inclined, pray for the people there. This could be a nasty flood event.
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#1014 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:25 pm

I can't believe what this did today.
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#1015 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:27 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:If upgraded at the 7 pm advisory, would this be the fastest ever a storm went from TD to hurricane?


Don't forget Humberto. 15Z it was a TD, at 05Z (16 hrs hater) it was a hurricane. However, it was likely a TD at least 12 hours before then, but the NHC didn't upgrade it. And Lorenzo was almost certainly a TS this morning, but the plane had left when it intensified.
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#1016 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:28 pm

wxman57 wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:If upgraded at the 7 pm advisory, would this be the fastest ever a storm went from TD to hurricane?


Don't forget Humberto. 15Z it was a TD, at 05Z (16 hrs hater) it was a hurricane. However, it was likely a TD at least 12 hours before then, but the NHC didn't upgrade it. And Lorenzo was almost certainly a TS this morning, but the plane had left when it intensified.


Yep, even if we assumed it became a TS right after the 7 am advisory (at that point definitely a TD), it would be only a 12 hour race through tropical storm classification...
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#1017 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:37 pm

When is the next Recon flight? Late this evening?
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#1018 Postby whereverwx » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:38 pm

Here's a nice afternoon visible:

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#1019 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:38 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:When is the next Recon flight? Late this evening?


A. 28/0600Z
B. AFXXX 0613A CYCLONE
C. 28/0230Z
D. 20.1N 96.7W
E. 28/0500Z TO 28/0900Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT
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#1020 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:39 pm

cycloneye wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:When is the next Recon flight? Late this evening?


A. 28/0600Z
B. AFXXX 0613A CYCLONE
C. 28/0230Z
D. 20.1N 96.7W
E. 28/0500Z TO 28/0900Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT


Just as I thought: 9:30 pm CDT.
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