The euphforia for invests a thing of the past?

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The euphforia for invests a thing of the past?

#1 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:24 am

In past years this forum was hopping when a invest was up.When word came that a invest was up,the forum became very active with constant posts.Now a invest pops up and the forum activity goes up only a little,and the reaction of many of the members is from,Oh good,well here is another one,will this one develop?,Nah,this is pure crap,Another one that will bust,and even some are not posting like in past years,meaning less to little posting etc.In past years the reactions were,Whoa!,Hurrah,invest x is up!!,where are the first model plots,Here we go! etc.But I understand the circunstances of why the change of reactions from past years to present.Things haved not been too favorable in the Atlantic and when a new invest pops up,the reaction is what I described above.Lets see in the 2008 season how the peeps will react when invests pop up.I guess it all depends on how the Atlantic turns out to be favorable or not,to then see more of the same in 2008 or we will return to the euphforia of the past seasons.
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#2 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:32 am

I guess since the lastest invests have not been very promissing people have back off from the euphoria. Nonetheless, when there is a good wave that shows potential or a non-tropical system that shows potential the forum activity increasity.

By the way, when I say "potential" I don't mean in the next 3 to 4 days, I mean in a day or two. It also shows that many members have noticed that an invest doesn't exactly mean a cyclone will develop. It's just an area of interest and nothing more.
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#3 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:31 am

When an invest headed towards me pops up and then
dissappates I feel a huge letdown. I love to watch the
action of 40 to 50 mph winds blowing- I stay up late at night
to watch or wake up early but as long as I see those winds
it makes my adrenaline rush happen.

I try to be excited but it's so disheartening to see
all these invests ripped apart. It is awesome if they
become a storm then things get really exciting.

For now though the invests keep dying. :( :( :(

But I shouldn't complain because I got tropical storm force
wind gusts from Barry, TD 10, the Low Pressure last week (90L)
or I call it the September storm, and then the Current 1006 mb
Caribbean low brought tropical storm force gusts much of last
night. It was so awesome and exciting to watch those tropical
storm gusts.

Now I don't ever want hurricanes because they hurt people.
But tropical storms that are weak 40-50 mph make me
very happy and excited.
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#4 Postby Aquawind » Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:47 am

Sorry but I am enjoying the break not being in the cone. The cone is hurricane reality and the last few years have been euphoric alright. I am still paying attention though as the season is not over yet.. :wink:

It takes more than a invest for me to get pumped.. They are nice to watch develop from the infant stages to maturity but the cone is my concern as it should be. So many things to do so little time.
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Re: The euphforia for invests a thing of the past?

#5 Postby swampdude » Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:22 am

I concur. Death to all invests!!! :grrr: Sorry, after being at ground zero for two of the last three U.S. landing hurricanes (Rita and Humberto) , we are a bit gun-shy and flinch at the mention of tropical activity in the Gulf. I must admit that there is a certain amount of excitement and adrenaline with a beautiful hurricane satellite image but we have had our fill for a while. :wink:
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Re: The euphforia for invests a thing of the past?

#6 Postby Frank2 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:23 pm

Well, the board changes as the members come and go, and, as you said, it seems two or three years ago, Invests were of greater interest, almost being treated with the anticipation of a short-order cook's dishes ("Invest 93L is up!"), but, perhaps the younger posters now are less interested in following developing systems, than in seeing where developed systems might go (blame it on "everything in one second" technology)...

Imagine how someone my age feels when it comes to posting here (the doctor used an inkwell pen (1880-1960) to sign my birth certificate) - it's not easy when it comes to being compared to a dinosaur...

LOL
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Re: The euphforia for invests a thing of the past?

#7 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:22 pm

Lets see if 93L and 94L change the preception that (Until it develops then I believe it) :) Right Brent?
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#8 Postby wxmann_91 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:41 pm

Most invests, especially in a year like 2007, will never develop. I think the realization of that has led to less euphoria for Invests.
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Re: The euphforia for invests a thing of the past?

#9 Postby Tstormwatcher » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:42 pm

cycloneye wrote:Lets see if 93L and 94L change the preception that (Until it develops then I believe it) :) Right Brent?


And don't forget 95L!!!!
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Re: The euphforia for invests a thing of the past?

#10 Postby artist » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:03 pm

it seems to me at the beginning of the season there was more activity here but now that there have been so many invests out there of which only a few have had anything become of them that after awhile the anticipation just isn't what it was. Particularly after the 2004, 2005 seasons. For myself - thank goodness! :cheesy:
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#11 Postby stormchazer » Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:22 pm

When this site was less popular, you had mostly enthusiast n the board and it was more about the discussion of the pottential. The past seasons though have jolted us all and it is less about the science and more about self-preservation.

Also, the boaard is much mre educated so the simple Invest do not illicit the discussions they once did.

Finally, we are a little spoiled after 2004-2005 where everything seemed to form.
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Re: The euphforia for invests a thing of the past?

#12 Postby canetracker » Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:34 pm

I know what you mean Cyloneye. It is such a coincidence that you made this thread as I have noticed that about myself. I have not been watching or posting like I should. I really can't tell you exactly why, but I think it is burn out.
I stay on the net for a good part of the day, sometimes lose sleep then for most of the invest or developed systems, conditions become hostile and eventually shred them apart.
I mainly watch and post out of fear that a system will devastate someone, but with conditions being the way they are lately, I guess I don't feel the need to worry.
Let something really crank up and posters will come back. By the way, great thread!
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#13 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:27 pm

Early-season Invests (feeling the start of the season) and those in areas of high potential (making early calls on potential for major development) tend to pump people up a lot more than late-season Invests in poor conditions...
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Re: The euphforia for invests a thing of the past?

#14 Postby Downdraft » Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:42 pm

Sorry to say it but a lot of us don't have the time to read 33 plus page threads on just an invest. People have been saying it all season long you have to dig through page after page of less than productive quotes to find one worth reading. Also, the NRL has become far more liberal on declaring invests than they used to be. I've decided until it's a depression it's not worth looking at every new sat picture posted every 15 minutes and every argument about will it or won't it. It's insane to even discuss anything but the global models with these either. Without an initialized center tracking models are worthless.
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#15 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:00 pm

Downdraft wrote:Sorry to say it but a lot of us don't have the time to read 33 plus page threads on just an invest. People have been saying it all season long you have to dig through page after page of less than productive quotes to find one worth reading. Also, the NRL has become far more liberal on declaring invests than they used to be. I've decided until it's a depression it's not worth looking at every new sat picture posted every 15 minutes and every argument about will it or won't it. It's insane to even discuss anything but the global models with these either. Without an initialized center tracking models are worthless.

I'll add another fact to this post. Too many people focus on the poor SHIP/DSHP intensity guidance for every run and treat them as the gospel (i.e. hype or dismiss a system).
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Re: The euphforia for invests a thing of the past?

#16 Postby amawea » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:19 pm

Well Cycloneye,
A lot of the invest this year have been,IMHO, knee jerk reactions to what the tpc thinks might happen. I'm wonderering if maybe they may be over reacting to the technology they have before them in regards to satellite data, etc. and calling popcorn buildups around a minor low into play as invest. Heck Idon't know but sometimes it's like crying wolf on some of these so the sheep get lazy.
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#17 Postby fci » Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:01 am

I compare Invests to the first snow storm of the season (I relate to this in my past when I lived in places that HAD snow!).

The first snowfall would get amazing coverage and attention and subsequent events would get less attention until it got to the point that snow was an afterthought. "Oh yeah, it's supposed to snow tomorrow; big deal".

Well this year the first few Invests drew immense interest. Even heated arguements about whether an Invest "deserved" to be labelled as an Invest.

Now, with the slew of them that we have had with little development (at least in areas of interst, I don't count the Northern Atlantic ones); Invests have become a "ho hum" occurance. Sort of like the 4th or 5th snowfall analogy that I discussed above.

Next season, the first 90L will spark a lot of interest and depending on how development occurs next year will dictate how long the interest lasts.

My $.02
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Re: The euphforia for invests a thing of the past?

#18 Postby jinftl » Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:37 am

I have a feeling invest 94L is going to generate quite a bit of buzz on the boards today....it is in a climatological spot that makes people here in South Florida take notice...
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Re: The euphforia for invests a thing of the past?

#19 Postby Typhoon_Willie » Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:50 am

Actually the NRL has nothing to do with intiating the invests. The various hurricane centers around the world tell them what to post as an invest and what storm systems are not invests.
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#20 Postby Typhoon_Willie » Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:54 am

Remember these invests are areas, for the most part, of minor low pressure that has the potential for development. Whether the development actually occurs is another ball game.
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