ProMets: Should 95L have been named? Page 3

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Sidenote: Thanks to Derek Ortt for explaining TD 10.

1. 95L Europe/NE Atlantic 994 mb 50 mph winds

Also: 96L from august was initially debated
in this thread.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

I will watch closely to see if 95L gets
a name being 994 mb and 50 mph.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

I agree with you on all counts above. 96L was a nice looking system. Also td 10 had tropical storm force wind and the nhc even said it was earlier on. But did not upgrade.

[Ed Mahmoud]

Yesterday's system that made landfall near GLS probably technically met the definition of either an STD or TD. It was a closed low with some convection near the center without an associated frontal boundary.

Edit to add, while still offshore, databuoys near Sabine, North of the center, had sustained 20 knot winds, so I'd guess 25 knots somewhere near the center.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

I'm going to admit that if it was not for the high level of shear over the Atlantic, that 2007 likely would of beat 95 in named storms. Look at the well defined LLC on 91L; if it was not for the shear hitting it now it would be a named system. 95L heck that could be added later on. 96L tampa shows if the shear was lighter it would of also been. Just to name a few.

[Cyclone1]

I'm going to admit that if it was not for the high level of shear over the Atlantic, that 2007 likely would of beat 95 in named storms.

To be fair, you could say that about any season.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

Post season to be interesting.

[Cyclone1]

Why is everyone counting out the naming of 95L? 11:00 is a perfectly acceptable upgrade time.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

I will keep checking until 11. If it is upgraded then I will
update this thread.

[Cryomaniac]

Why is everyone counting out the naming of 95L? 11:00 is a perfectly acceptable upgrade time.

Probably because of where it is. But if it looks like a duck...

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

CORRECTION:

95L is not fully subtropical yet!! See senorpepr's response
in the 95L thread.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

The official Tally:

13/5/2

I'll trust the NHC more than myself but I will
read their post season material when it comes out.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

07/1145 UTC 51.0N 22.0W ST2.5/2.5 95L -- Atlantic Ocean

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

Everyone I want to hear your opinions on this
because my crazy amateurish mind could use
some knowledge and science.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

96=tropical storm
10=tropical storm
95L that is over the northeast Atlantic 50 knot tropical storm.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

thanks matt:D

anyone feel free to Disagree with me if you want-
say what you want feel free

[Recurve]

But the season's a dud! How could there be 14 named storms?

[MiamiensisWx]

But the season's a dud! How could there be 14 named storms?

Actually, it's 15 NS. You're a strengthening hurricane on your way to our third Category 5 system. It's an unbelievable year.

If people are bored, they can always pretend the long-range GFS, Euro, Canadian, etc. landfalls are happening "live" in the CONUS. We're still recovering in Miami from the last 384 hour operational GFS hurricane (i.e. 1926 redux). The Northeast took a beating from the numerous 384 hour GFS '38 repeats, too. We don't need another landfall!

Obviously, I'm joking here.

OT: I think the August INVEST (shown in images) may have been a non-tropical system. It was heavily involved with baroclinic factors. I think our recent Azores system is a more likely STS candidate per post-seasonal upgrade.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

But the season's a dud! How could there be 14 named storms?

Actually, it's 15 NS. You're a strengthening hurricane on your way to our third Category 5 system. It's an unbelievable year.

If people are bored, they can always pretend the long-range GFS, Euro, Canadian, etc. landfalls are happening "live" in the CONUS. We're still recovering in Miami from the last 384 hour operational GFS hurricane (i.e. 1926 redux). The Northeast took a beating from the numerous 384 hour GFS '38 repeats, too. We don't need another landfall!

Obviously, I'm joking here.

OT: I think the August INVEST (shown in images) may have been a non-tropical system. It was heavily involved with baroclinic factors. I think our recent Azores system is a more likely STS candidate per post-seasonal upgrade.

The energy of the season and not the number of named system is the thing that is being debated. The eastern pacific is now having the second least active in history. I strongly disagree that "95L" was subtropical, people think everything that is not over 78+ sst's is subtropical. That is not true at all, subtropical means that it has a shallow warm core with a broad wind field. Based on 85h data showing well defined banding and even a eye for a time, shows that this had developed a pretty tropical formation. Even so it had cooler waters then what we would expect to form it. But it had a cold upper level 200-300 millibar airmass above it to help transform it into what it was. I strongly believe it was at least subtropical. Heck I would not be mad at all if the nhc in post season made it so. But also believe it could of been tropical.

As for 96L, I remember watching it. It had NO frontal boundry at this time. Reminds me of the unnamed subtropical storm.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

Oh well. The NHC is much smarter than me.

The Most Important
Thing: I think squirrels are cute (Off topic because the
tropics are dead anyways).