Facing the facts: 2007 season not living up to expectations

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Re: Facing the facts: 2007 season not living up to expectations

#61 Postby KatDaddy » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:35 pm

Its like riding a rollercoaster eveyday when there is a potential threat to the Upper TX Coast. It becomes a life absorbing event. Its a life long passion for me and for many others to watch and experience tropical cyclones. However I am also extremely respectful of the power. The 2005 season was a historical and very humbling experience. Perhaps its time for to chase.
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#62 Postby dwg71 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:20 am

I get a feeling that the season is just about over. Maybe one or two systems. JMO.
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Re: Facing the facts: 2007 season not living up to expectations

#63 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:32 am

So where is everyeone that said Ocotober and November will be active???...I admit when I eat crow, but for the 2nd year in a row when I've mentioned the season ending early in September, I got many reasponses like "October and November can still be active"...I've seen absolutely no proof of that so far, in fact it's just the opposite....See ya next season!
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Re: Facing the facts: 2007 season not living up to expectations

#64 Postby Sanibel » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:45 am

Seasons can change tendencies all of a sudden. Although 2007 has trended hostile it is a mistake to think one season has one tendency. The tendency shift can come at the end of the season. I would not be pushing anything with those prominent convection areas now persisting in the Caribbean. They could turn the corner and go big still.
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Re: Facing the facts: 2007 season not living up to expectations

#65 Postby weatherwoman » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:08 am

everyone sounds disapointed that we didnt get a cat 5 hit the us now if we had gotten hit then you all would be complaining to the ones who say bring it on like me i like to see hurricanes come and i wanted one to hit us this year but had i said that to someone i would have gotten my head bit off
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Re: Facing the facts: 2007 season not living up to expectations

#66 Postby Downdraft » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:10 am

weatherwoman wrote:everyone sounds disapointed that we didnt get a cat 5 hit the us now if we had gotten hit then you all would be complaining to the ones who say bring it on like me i like to see hurricanes come and i wanted one to hit us this year but had i said that to someone i would have gotten my head bit off


Not biting your head off but have you ever been in a bad hurricane? Ever lost your power for 2 weeks, couldn't drive because the roads were closed, walked for hours hoping to get a back of ice so you could keep your wife's insulin cool? Waited 6 months to get your roof fixed and when you did found out your home owners insurance was going up 100% I used to get angry at people that wanted that power to visit them now I just think it's sad that life has so little excitement in them that they need to experience a natural disaster to get a high. :(
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Re: Facing the facts: 2007 season not living up to expectations

#67 Postby Frank2 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:26 am

I agree with convergencezone - in my opinion, it seems everyone became "spoiled" during the very active 2004 and 2005 seasons, but, THOSE ARE THE EXCEPTIONAL SEASONS (like 1933 or 1969, or, once every 30-40 years)...

In my humble opinion (and I might be totally wrong), the season is over!

As someone else wisely noted over the weekend, for those who work in tropical meteorology, this actually has been a very active and interesting season, but, for many here, it's been just the opposite...

Some here continue to say we can have one or two more systems, but, nothing is indicating that at this time - sure, a hurricane could form a few days or two weeks from now, but, that is highly, highly unlikely...

Sorry, folks (only in this troubled day and age does a person need to apologize for the lack of a disaster) - time to put away the tracking chart and take out the ice skates...
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#68 Postby hurricanetrack » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:44 am

Looks like it will be tough to get 4/2/1 for the rest of the time left in the season. Global models show nothing at all over the next week to 10 days. Might end the season with five total hurricanes- Karen was possibly one for a few hours as they mentioned in the discussion that one time. Anyhow- 5 hurricanes is not a lot in this active period, not a lot at all.

I also think that people who get angry or aggitated at those who "like" hurricanes is like getting angry or aggitated with people who build fire hydrants. No one on this board has ever said they like seeing people without power, without homes and without hope. True hurricanes go hand in hand with that but if certain people, either "in the business" or not like hurricanes, so be it. They can like them all they want, and others can dislike them all they want, and it will never, ever make a hill of beans difference in what happens each hurricane season. People are entitled to be frustrated with others who, for what ever reason, enjoy being in or seeing a hurricane. I see nothing wrong with that. It's not crazy or insane. Hurricane "fans" don't cause hurricanes and only people truly out of touch with their fellow man enjoys the misery that comes with hurricanes. Since things are quiet, I am going to compose a nice post about the hurricane business and my role in it and how years like 2006 and 2007 affect my business just like 2004 and 2005 affected it too. This could be an interesting other topic. I'll get to it tonight sometime...
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#69 Postby gerrit » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:09 pm

hurricanetrack wrote:I also think that people who get angry or aggitated at those who "like" hurricanes is like getting angry or aggitated with people who build fire hydrants.


It's more like people who say they want to see a nice big fire in an apartment building or a hotel...

I don't get agitated anymore. I still don't understand them but that's a different story.

I'm glad the season seems to come to an end. Looking forward to cooler temperatures. :)
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Re: Facing the facts: 2007 season not living up to expectations

#70 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:21 pm

Hurricanes are devastating,
but I don't see a problem with wishing for a weak tropical
storm so one can experience it. The "high" I get is only
from weak tropical systems, Not Hurricanes. Hurricanes
hurt people in horrible ways.

And especially if the heat index has been hitting 100
and above each day for 3 months straight it is
nice to have some rainy and breezy days
as long as the winds don't exceed 45 mph or
so (in other words a weak tropical storm).
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Re: Facing the facts: 2007 season not living up to expectations

#71 Postby gerrit » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:29 pm

It depends where you are, I guess. The last tropical storm here (Jeanne 2004) left us without water and power for three weeks. Yes I know it's the bad infrastructure in PR - who in his right mind has power lines above ground in a tropical cyclone area? If the power lines would be where they should be in the first place (in the ground) we wouldn't have had that problem.

A similar storm with tropical storm force winds topples some trees in northern Europe (where I'm from, originally) but life goes on without blackouts.

But, here in rural PR I have to live with the bad infrastructure, so not even a tropical storm is welcomed here. :)
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Re: Facing the facts: 2007 season not living up to expectations

#72 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:41 pm

so not even a tropical storm is welcomed here.


I go even more far.A Strong Tropical Wave,Look what happened in October,1985 in Mameyes,when a strong wave moved slowly. :(
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Re: Facing the facts: 2007 season not living up to expectations

#73 Postby gerrit » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:51 pm

cycloneye wrote:
so not even a tropical storm is welcomed here.


I go even more far.A Strong Tropical Wave,Look what happened in October,1985 in Mameyes,when a strong wave moved slowly. :(


That was before I moved to PR but you're so right.. 129 people killed in that landslide..
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Re: Facing the facts: 2007 season not living up to expectations

#74 Postby Frank2 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:27 pm

It might be hard for younger posters to understand, but, it's only human nature that as a person gets older (not necessarily older as in elderly, but older as in someone who has entered middle age or has become a senior citizen), the desire to hear crickets instead of a howling wind increases, and, that's just fine with me...

As I once heard, if the world were filled with only babies, children and senior citizens or elderly, there'd be no trouble at all - it's those years in between that are the problem...
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#75 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:35 pm

who in his right mind has power lines above ground in a tropical cyclone area?

The banana republic known as Miami-dade county
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#76 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:44 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:who in his right mind has power lines above ground in a tropical cyclone area?

The banana republic known as Miami-dade county


Try the whole SE coast of FL..
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#77 Postby gerrit » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:51 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:who in his right mind has power lines above ground in a tropical cyclone area?

The banana republic known as Miami-dade county


Yeah, I know that. I don't get it.. When I was growing up in the Netherlands, power lines and telephone were above ground. When I left the Netherlands in '88 one had to search very hard to find above ground power lines..

I moved to Germany in '88, lived in the middle of nowhere - power lines underground.

I haven't had even one black out in 13 years in Germany and I don't remember ever experiencing one in the Netherlands.

Over here it's about time to buy a new generator because my present gen-set is about to die..
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#78 Postby Category 5 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:08 pm

hurricanetrack wrote:I also think that people who get angry or aggitated at those who "like" hurricanes is like getting angry or aggitated with people who build fire hydrants.


It depends on how it's meant.

I like Hurricanes, I enjoy tracking them and I enjoy the mystery and uncertainty that comes with them. On the other hand, I DON'T like seeing them crash into the coastline, kill people, level towns, and ruin lives.

However, your living is made on those storms, so you need them in order to do your job and you've experenced many catestrophic Hurricanes first hand and obviously have a great respect for them. Thats alot different then somebody in an area thats not even not even affected by Hurricanes cheering for a storm to strengthen and strike the CONUS.
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#79 Postby gatorcane » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:15 pm

it's not over until Nov. 30th and we have a la nina...so

also a "monsoon-like" trough has set in through the Caribbean.

As WxMan said in another thread - very similar to the pattern we saw this time in 2005.
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Re: Facing the facts: 2007 season not living up to expectations

#80 Postby Downdraft » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:40 pm

I like tornadoes and I like hurricanes I can't prevent either one but I can study them and make myself aware of those dangers around me. We are all here because we love tropical weather but liking them and saying you'd like to get hit by a big bad one are two different things. I guess you have to experience it not to want to ever be another one. I also live in Florida and lets face it Florida's main way to bust a drought is tropical weather. So they are both a curse and a blessing. Nobody can argue that a nice depression parked over Lake O wouldn't be a godsend. La Nina may be an active season for hurricane lovers but it also means drought for Florida. Drought means wildfire here. Nothing in nature it seems is free.
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