Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes

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Re: Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes

#21 Postby HurricaneBill » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:00 pm

::dresses up as Chris Crocker::

Leave hurricanes alone!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes

#22 Postby Category 5 » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:51 pm

This is a bigger waste of our money then Stormfury. Why don't we just spend it on plausable ideas like preparing and forecasting instead of trying to play god? The fact that tax dollars go to funding nonsense like this is embarassing.
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Re: Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes

#23 Postby Frank2 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:29 am

Project Stormfury was cancelled after the 1980 season because it was determined that any weakening after seeding was perhaps more due to a natural eyewall replacement cycle, than anything man-made (not to mention the political pressures that were coming from countries concerned that they would suffer the effects of an American experiment gone wrong)...

With all due respect to the folks I worked for at the time, the idea of seeding a hurricane always seemed to remind me of the effect someone has when shooting very soft peas at an elephant, but, I might be wrong...

Granted, certain types of seeding does seem to work for short periods (from what I learned when in aviation), especially on non-convective type low or mid-level clouds (a very stable deck of alto-cu, for example), but, the Stormfury results seemed to be very hard to discern, at best...

As far as the microwave issue, that sounds like it would set a dangerous military precedent (since they are the only ones who might have that capability) - again, always best to leave a sleeping bear alone...
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Re: Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes

#24 Postby terstorm1012 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:42 am

Right, stormfury was a huge failure, but small-level seeding looked very promising. At least according to Dr. Roger Peilke Sr. (he wrote about it in Human Impacts on Weather and Climate, a great book to read if you get a chance, and very science oriented unlike some of the more recent books on weather and climate which are not written by scientists. Can you tell I have a bug up someplace uncomfortable about science journalism and "journalists?" :lol: )
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Re: Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes

#25 Postby wxman57 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:08 pm

What heavy transport plane flies at 50,000+ feet? The image in the article shows a C-130 flying well above the top of a hurricane. :lol:
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Re: Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes

#26 Postby Dionne » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:35 pm

wxman57 wrote:What heavy transport plane flies at 50,000+ feet? The image in the article shows a C-130 flying well above the top of a hurricane. :lol:


Our C17 Globemaster III has a service ceiling of 45,000 ft and it will hold 170,900 lbs of "soot". And we have 158 of them at a cost of 202 million dollars each. Now doesn't that make y'all feel better? :lol:
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Re: Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes

#27 Postby stormcrow » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:36 pm

Well just another thousand or so and you might have enough soot to start to make a small impact. Whats 200 billion to the government. Oh and I quess there would be maintainence etc.
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#28 Postby MBryant » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:09 pm

~Why worry about seeding the clouds with soot or producing tons of carbon black when we could just use Scaler Technology for the same result?~

ps ~sarcasm~
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Re: Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes

#29 Postby Cyclone1 » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:38 pm

HurricaneBill wrote:::dresses up as Chris Crocker::

Leave hurricanes alone!!!!!!!!!!


:roflmao:

LOL nice! One of the funniest posts I've seen in a while.
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Re: Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes

#30 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:43 pm

Cyclone1 wrote:
HurricaneBill wrote:::dresses up as Chris Crocker::

Leave hurricanes alone!!!!!!!!!!


:roflmao:

LOL nice! One of the funniest posts I've seen in a while.


Agree. This is the only thing you can do when you see people trying to play with Mother Nature at this scale.
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Re: Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes

#31 Postby HurricaneRobert » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:19 pm

Every few years we need to cut a big chunk of ice from Haley's Comet and drop it in the ocean.
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Re: Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes

#32 Postby Category 5 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:28 pm

HurricaneRobert wrote:Every few years we need to cut a big chunk of ice from Haley's Comet and drop it in the ocean.


That's a better use of our tax dollars then this. :wink:

Seriously, I mean that.
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