Martial Law in Pakistan

[feederband]

Khruschev wasn't a madman but his rhetoric ("We will bury you" - complete with banging his shoe on the podium at the UN) was at least as "mad" ad anything Ahmedinejad had ever said.

Yet Ahmedinejad ends his tyraits with "allah" willing...This makes him much more dangerous..

Ummm ... that's an absolutely standard expression throughout the Muslim world. Am I "dangerous" because I regularly use expressions like "God willing" or "thank God?"

If you use it after using words of destuction of another country...What would make anyone think that the killings of many would be a thing that their god would want?

[x-y-no]

If you use it after using words of destuction of another country...What would make anyone think that the killings of many would be a thing that their god would want?

Why would one think Khruschev and Stalin were any less dangerous for not invoking God?

[feederband]

If you use it after using words of destuction of another country...What would make anyone think that the killings of many would be a thing that their god would want?

Why would one think Khruschev and Stalin were any less dangerous for not invoking God?

Not less dangerous but maybe less willing...

[x-y-no]

Less willing? Come on now! The Soviet Union was as brutal and ruthless as any regime in history.

[feederband]

Less willing? Come on now! The Soviet Union was as brutal and ruthless as any regime in history.

They were becuase they could...Having a god on your side makes it right...

[gtalum]

Not mad...They truly believe they are doing their gods work...When he says isreal will be wiped off the earth he truly believes his god has ok'd this...As we see it is very difficult to change this way of thinking..

When other leaders invoke their god's name, they don't truly believe it? I'm not sure where you're going with this. Why si it mad for one guy to invoke his god and not mad for another guy to invoke his?

[gtalum]

They were becuase they could...Having a god on your side makes it right...

The Soviet Union was areligious. They didn't invoke a god.

[feederband]

Not mad...They truly believe they are doing their gods work...When he says isreal will be wiped off the earth he truly believes his god has ok'd this...As we see it is very difficult to change this way of thinking..

When other leaders invoke their god's name, they don't truly believe it? I'm not sure where you're going with this. Why si it mad for one guy to invoke his god and not mad for another guy to invoke his?

Lets just say I don't think we are going to see American terrorist fly planes into Iran and say Praise Jesus as they expolde into buildings...


Not really tring to go anywhere with this except they wish us all dead...Where I on the other hand wish them all to live...

[feederband]

They were becuase they could...Having a god on your side makes it right...

The Soviet Union was areligious. They didn't invoke a god.

Right...I should of typed Iran in the second sentence...

[gtalum]

Lets just say I don't think we are going to see American terrorist fly planes into Iran and say Praise Jesus as they expolde into buildings...

We haven't seen any Iranian terrorists fly planes into American buildings and saying "Praise Allah" either.

Not really tring to go anywhere with this except they wish us all dead...

How do you know "they wish us all dead"? And who exactly is "they"

I'm not trying to be a butthead, I'm honestly curious where this all started. Remember, it wasn't Iranian (or Iraqi) terrorists that attacked us on 9/11. It was mostly Saudi terrorists and two Emiratis, a Lebanese, and an Egyptian terrorist. And for some reason we are allied with the Saudis and at war with Iraq (and likely soon to be at war with Iran). That makes no sense.

[vbhoutex]

Lets just say I don't think we are going to see American terrorist fly planes into Iran and say Praise Jesus as they expolde into buildings...

We haven't seen any Iranian terrorists fly planes into American buildings and saying "Praise Allah" either.

Not really tring to go anywhere with this except they wish us all dead...

How do you know "they wish us all dead"? And who exactly is "they"

I'm not trying to be a butthead, I'm honestly curious where this all started. Remember, it wasn't Iranian (or Iraqi) terrorists that attacked us on 9/11. It was mostly Saudi terrorists and two Emiratis, a Lebanese, and an Egyptian terrorist. And for some reason we are allied with the Saudis and at war with Iraq (and likely soon to be at war with Iran). That makes no sense.

And those terrorists were associated with Al Quaeda which is active and harbored in each of the countries you metnioned. The Saudi's are actively trying to rid their country of them. I don't know about the others.

"They" is the "bad" Muslim faction(s) and "they" have avowed to rid the earth of us "infidels". This is common knowledge!!

It sounds to me like you are spinning this to make your argument more valid. JMHO. I am not trying to be a butthead either.

[feederband]

Lets just say I don't think we are going to see American terrorist fly planes into Iran and say Praise Jesus as they expolde into buildings...

We haven't seen any Iranian terrorists fly planes into American buildings and saying "Praise Allah" either.

Not really tring to go anywhere with this except they wish us all dead...

How do you know "they wish us all dead"? And who exactly is "they"

I'm not trying to be a butthead, I'm honestly curious where this all started. Remember, it wasn't Iranian (or Iraqi) terrorists that attacked us on 9/11. It was mostly Saudi terrorists and two Emiratis, a Lebanese, and an Egyptian terrorist. And for some reason we are allied with the Saudis and at war with Iraq (and likely soon to be at war with Iran). That makes no sense.

I'm taken no offense.....We are fighting many people from many lands...The people that run Iran are those people...The people that flew the planes on 9/11 took no allegence to the goverments they were from...


Don't get me wrong I personally don't trust any of those goverments...

[vbhoutex]

OK, now that I am involved in this I realize we are way off the original subject and I am part of that problem. Let's try and get back to the original subject.

[feederband]

OK, now that I am involved in this I realize we are way off the original subject and I am part of that problem. Let's try and get back to the original subject.

What was this tread about again...

[vbhoutex]

OK, now that I am involved in this I realize we are way off the original subject and I am part of that problem. Let's try and get back to the original subject.

What was this tread about again...

You laugh, as do I, but I had to go back and look after I made my reply.

[gtalum]

And those terrorists were associated with Al Quaeda which is active and harbored in each of the countries you metnioned.

Al Quaeda was nonexistent in Iraq until after Saddam was deposed. Saddam was vehemently against Islamic extremism, despite his other many faults. he was a secular leader. I have seen no evidence that Al Quaeda has acted significantly in any of the other nations besides Saudi Arabia.

Further, Al Quaeda is harbored right here in the US, according to some. Does that give other nations justification to attack us?

The Saudi's are actively trying to rid their country of them. I don't know about the others.

I seen evidence that the Islamic extremist Wahhabists running Saudi Arabia have any desire to rid themselves of the Islamic extremist Al Quada.

"They" is the "bad" Muslim faction(s) and "they" have avowed to rid the earth of us "infidels". This is common knowledge!!

How is it common knowledge? Where and when have you heard anyone besides Osama bin laden make such a comment?

It sounds to me like you are spinning this to make your argument more valid. JMHO. I am not trying to be a butthead either.

I'm not spinning, I'm looking at objective evidence. "Common knowledge" as you described is not supported by any hard evidence.

[vbhoutex]

I seen evidence that the Islamic extremist Wahhabists running Saudi Arabia have any desire to rid themselves of the Islamic extremist Al Quada.

I am presuming you left out a few words here. The Saudi's have attacked Al Quaeda's in their country or so we are told by the media and have executed and/or put them on trial for their actions.

How is it common knowledge? Where and when have you heard anyone besides Osama bin laden make such a comment?

I can 't believe you are even asking this question! It has been all over the media since 9/11 and it certainly hasn't been only Osama.

Al Quaeda was nonexistent in Iraq until after Saddam was deposed. Saddam was vehemently against Islamic extremism, despite his other many faults. he was a secular leader. I have seen no evidence that Al Quaeda has acted significantly in any of the other nations besides Saudi Arabia.

Further, Al Quaeda is harbored right here in the US, according to some. Does that give other nations justification to attack us?

I didn't say they were active previously. I said they are now active and harbored in those countries. Again, it has been all over the media. If you have seen no evidence then you have not followed the media, at least not in an unbiased fashion(and no this is nor an attack!). I'm not even going to comment on your last question in this portion!