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No-name storms: Left out of the database.

#1 Postby Cyclone1 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:53 pm

They may have warm cores, they may have rain bands, they may have central dense overcast, they may even eyes. What they lack is a name.

This is the thread for storms that maybe, kinda, almost, sorta, could of been named, but weren't even numbered. And there are plenty of them. If you find one, or know of one, or think you know of one, post it here. Also, I'm curious as to your opinions, what storms you all think were just cold-core/upper level/circulation free blobs, and what storms were nameable, and just left out of the database.

The opening is overly-dramatic, I know. It's just the slow season... and I'm bored... and... shut up.

Anyway, on to the storms, these are just the ones I could think of off the top of my head. Imageshacked. No particular order.

November 20, 1996, North Atlantic
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September 12, 1992, South of Nova Scotia
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April 2 (yeah...), 1998, NE of Puerto Rico (STDS issued by NHC)
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December 22, 1994, precursor to the 1994 Christmas Eve Nor'easter
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October 2, 1994, Gulf of Mexico (called subtropical by the HPC)
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Five is enough for one post, though I know of like 20-ish. I'll be posting more later, also. Remember, none of these storms ever got a name/number from the official hurricane center of that basin.

What do you all think about these? If you know of any more non-classified storms, tell me about em.
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Re: No-name storms: Left out of the database.

#2 Postby WindRunner » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:12 pm

I actually have a whole file of them, but I'm not allowed to share . . . please keep them coming, though, some of those look quite interesting . . .
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Re: No-name storms: Left out of the database.

#3 Postby Ptarmigan » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:35 pm

I always wonder how many of them go undetected despite satellites.
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Re: No-name storms: Left out of the database.

#4 Postby Cyclone1 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:36 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:I always wonder how many of them go undetected despite satellites.

That's the purpose of this thread. :wink: There are a LOT of them, I'll be posting more later.
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Re: No-name storms: Left out of the database.

#5 Postby Jam151 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:46 pm

Yeah those are interesting cases. Some others I know of are

November 29, 1984 Central Atlantic
ftp://eclipse.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/isccp/b ... E-6-IR.jpg

January 4, 1992 Off Virginia (!)
ftp://eclipse.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/isccp/b ... E-7-IR.jpg

September 12, 1992 Northwest Atlantic
ftp://eclipse.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/isccp/b ... E-7-IR.jpg

October 3, 1992 Gulf of Mexico
ftp://eclipse.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/isccp/b ... E-7-IR.jpg

October 8, 1996 North Atlantic
ftp://eclipse.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/isccp/b ... E-8-IR.jpg

August 12, 2000 Northwest Atlantic
ftp://eclipse.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/isccp/b ... E-8-IR.jpg

August 29, 2000 North Carolina
ftp://eclipse.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/isccp/b ... E-8-IR.jpg

October 3, 2000 Northwest Atlantic
ftp://eclipse.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/isccp/b ... E-8-IR.jpg

June 26, 2006 New Jersey
ftp://eclipse.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/isccp/b ... -12-IR.jpg

November 2, 2006 Far North Pacific (!!!)
ftp://eclipse.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/isccp/b ... -11-IR.jpg

August 30, 2007 Northwest Atlantic
ftp://eclipse.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/isccp/b ... -12-IR.jpg

October 6, 2007 Far Northeast Atlantic
ftp://eclipse.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/isccp/b ... G-2-IR.jpg


I'm probably forgetting others.

(edited to add October 3, 2000)
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Re: No-name storms: Left out of the database.

#6 Postby Cyclone1 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:52 pm

Jam151 wrote:Yeah those are interesting cases. Some others I know of are

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I'm probably forgetting others.


Wow! Nice finds!
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Re: No-name storms: Left out of the database.

#7 Postby WindRunner » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:59 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:I always wonder how many of them go undetected despite satellites.


It really is quite amazing, especially back in the lates 1970s how many might have been missed . . . unfortunately, our satellite archives aren't quite as good as they should be back beyond the 1990, and that may prove detrimental to our record-keeping in the long run.
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Re: No-name storms: Left out of the database.

#8 Postby Cyclone1 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:59 pm

Here's a GOOD one.

May 27, 1988
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Re: No-name storms: Left out of the database.

#9 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:06 am

The infamous 2004 May Haiti gale. Killed over 2000 people they day before this image, while it was over Hispaniola. It didn't organize until the following day.
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Re: No-name storms: Left out of the database.

#10 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:30 am

Jam151 wrote:Yeah those are interesting cases. Some others I know of are

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I'm probably forgetting others.

(edited to add October 3, 2000)


I noticed 1992 had three no name storms. If they were named, than 1992 is more active than previously thought. If so, 1992 would have 10 storms. Derek Ortt pointed that out before I remember. Now I wonder if 2005 even had more storms that went undetected.
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#11 Postby Chacor » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:33 am

I doubt 2005 would have had any undetected, just because everyone was watching it after the 2004 season.
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#12 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:57 am

Chacor wrote:I doubt 2005 would have had any undetected, just because everyone was watching it after the 2004 season.


April 15, 2005. :wink:
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#13 Postby Squarethecircle » Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:59 am

Cyclone1 wrote:
Chacor wrote:I doubt 2005 would have had any undetected, just because everyone was watching it after the 2004 season.


April 15, 2005. :wink:
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That doesn't look particularly tropical to me... or subtropical for that matter...
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#14 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:02 am

Yeah, you're probably right. It does just look like a cut-off low.
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#15 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:03 am

Many of these storms may look subtropical but if you don't any prove that it had a warm or semi-warm center, then they're as good as an extratropical low.
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#16 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:11 am

I know, we just don't have that kind of information on many storms like these. I'm not saying that any storm on this thread was a (sub)tropical cyclone, I'm just saying, by appearance alone, they look like they maybe, kinda, could have been.

EDIT: Also, this thread isn't a "omg this storm was a huricane kthx bye" thread, it's a thread mainly for images of impressive cyclones/blobs that just weren't named.
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#17 Postby Squarethecircle » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:14 am

Hey, C1, don't you have archives choc full of this kind of thing on your Wikipedia talk page, or something?
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#18 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:16 am

Squarethecircle wrote:Hey, C1, don't you have archives choc full of this kind of thing on your Wikipedia talk page, or something?

Nope. You may be thinking of Eric's.
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#19 Postby Squarethecircle » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:18 am

Cyclone1 wrote:
Squarethecircle wrote:Hey, C1, don't you have archives choc full of this kind of thing on your Wikipedia talk page, or something?

Nope. You may be thinking of Eric's.


Yeah, that's right. But you still talk with him about it :P .
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#20 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:24 am

Squarethecircle wrote:
Cyclone1 wrote:
Squarethecircle wrote:Hey, C1, don't you have archives choc full of this kind of thing on your Wikipedia talk page, or something?

Nope. You may be thinking of Eric's.


Yeah, that's right. But you still talk with him about it :P .


Rarely, actually. Anyway, we shouldn't continue discussing it here. PM me if you want.
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