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Mother of 'Baby Grace'-GUILTY-CAPITAL MURDER-LIFE SENTENCE

#1 Postby Ptarmigan » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:44 pm

Mother of 'Baby Grace' Told Police She Tortured, Beat Daughter to Death, Court Documents Show

Baby Grace has a name, Riley Ann Sawyers. What kind of sick freak torture and kill their own child like this and dumps it into the bay??????????????????? Scum like them need to be tortured brutally by being impaled and crucified alive and be kept alive as long as possible. They should have objects thrown at them in scorn.
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#2 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:07 pm

I usually do not support execution except in treason cases.

I would be in favor of sending her to a concentration camp like place for many years. Lets see how she likes being beaten for the slightest of infraction (and the step dad as well)

Also, if anyone here is involved in a relation where one party supports this type of abuse on a child, get out now. Put the child first
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#3 Postby vbhoutex » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:12 pm

It is best I keep my thoughts to myself as I cannot say anything about !#@$@$%#$%^&& like them that would be acceptable in any kind of company. They most certainly are not human and neither of them deserves to ever have the word parent or mother or father associated with them as they have never been any of those!!!!!! :x :x :x :x :x :x
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#4 Postby Ptarmigan » Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:38 am

Mugshots of these two sick monsters.

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#5 Postby southerngale » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:22 am

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Rest in peace, Riley. :(

The girl was beaten with leather belts, had her head held
underwater in a bathtub and then was thrown across a room, her head
slamming into a tile floor, Trenor said in the document. She said
they kept the body in a storage shed for one to two months before
they put it in a plastic bin and dumped it into Galveston Bay.


:grr: :x

How sick and twisted you must be to do something so vile, so inhumane! That poor, innocent little girl, killed by the person who should have loved her with her all her heart and done everything to protect her. If she didn't want her, she should have given her to a family member who did, or to ANYONE! I look at that baby's face and I can't keep from bawling my eyes out.

It makes me sick.
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#6 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:28 am

Ptarmigan wrote:Mugshots of these two sick monsters.

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:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:


I believe the picture of the man is the real father and he had nothing to do with the crime. It is her current boyfriend/husband that was the perpetrator of this heinous crime. He even tried to kill himself and left a note saying it was all his fault.
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#7 Postby gtalum » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:06 am

I can't deal with stories about horrible things happening to kids anymore, now that I have my own.

They'll be dealt with harshly in prison.
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#8 Postby Squarethecircle » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:28 pm

Stuff like this happens a lot these days, unfortunately enough. It's just so distressing... I say life with no parole is a good option; if they had killed a second child in a similar way, then the death penalty should've come into play.
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#9 Postby gtalum » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:31 pm

Squarethecircle wrote:Stuff like this happens a lot these days...


It's not any more common now than it ever was. You just hear and see more about it, thanks to the speed of communication available.
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#10 Postby Squarethecircle » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:33 pm

:uarrow: Actually, the population increase has a lot to do with it to, although the percentage hasn't gone up.
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#11 Postby DaylilyDawn » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:42 pm

If I could I would stake them out on a ant nest and pour honey on those two. They don't deserve to live after what they admitted to doing to that sweet little girl.
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#12 Postby TexasStooge » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:47 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:Mugshots of these two sick monsters.

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:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

They think they're so tough, but they won't be once in prison.

Sure a 9-year-old kid I'm babysitting has been driving me batty for over a year, but I do my best to keep my composure.
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#13 Postby Cyclone1 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:40 pm

Unimaginable. How could they? They deserve every bit of the torture that they inflicted on that poor girl, if not more.

Riley, rest in peace.
Kimberly and Royce, burn in hell.

Horrible.
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#14 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:41 pm

It is one thing to kill someone you do not know, but it is another thing all together to kill someone you know intimately, especially your own (or any other) defenseless child. :grr:

The above statement is why I have such a hard time in my classes comprehending something like Nazis Germany, the Cambodian Khmer Rouge, or more recently the Rwandan genocide of 1994. The people these groups killed, especially early on, were segments of their countries own populations. The same segments that they had eaten with, purchased goods from, made friendships with, and basically previously lived with day in day out for their entire lives. How could anyone do such a thing? I do not think any of the explanations yet advanced completely answer all the terrible questions this type of behavior raises about human nature. I still find it, as one professor has termed the anthropology of true evil, perplexing. :?:
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#15 Postby mf_dolphin » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:59 pm

It's at times like these that we have to remember that people like these will be held responsible for their actions when they stand before their final judge. May God have mercy that they didn't show....
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#16 Postby Terrell » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:34 pm

LIfe in prison without the possibility of parole, or death by lethal injection are apropriate. Torturing them only stoops to their level. (assuming that they're actually guilty)
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#17 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:49 pm

I still perfer my solution. It would also be much more cost effective. Today, it costs far more than it should to house a convicted felon and the cost of execution is too high. Too many rights are given to criminals. Child killers should have the right to be called by number, given 2 750 calorie meals per day, the right to do 12 horus of hard labor each and every day, and the right to be punished for each and every mistake

perhaps that would serve as a deterrant to others, since execution is not exactly doing this now
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#18 Postby Terrell » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:12 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:I still perfer my solution. It would also be much more cost effective. Today, it costs far more than it should to house a convicted felon and the cost of execution is too high. Too many rights are given to criminals. Child killers should have the right to be called by number, given 2 750 calorie meals per day, the right to do 12 horus of hard labor each and every day, and the right to be punished for each and every mistake

perhaps that would serve as a deterrant to others, since execution is not exactly doing this now


I would agree that it probably costs more than it should to house prisoners, but I suspect my solutions and yours would differ. With respect to violent crimes such as this, however, I would not want to show any leniency on sending them to prison for a long time (up to life without parole). I also have no problem with prisoners having 12 hour days of hard physical labor. I wouldn't, however, mock the concept of rights by calling forms of punishment "rights" (especially when there have been cases of people who are in prison that later are shown to be innocent of the crimes for which they were incarcerated). On the issue of punishment for every mistake, I don't agree with you without knowing specifics w/r/t mistakes or punsihments.

As to the calorie requirements in the meals, I don't know enough about human nutrition, to know whether or not a person can survive on 1500 calories a day under such circumstances, and I see no point in trying to negatively impact their health (outside of cases where the death penalty applies) the punishments of hard labor and confinement, for years on end is sufficent in my opinion. I would agree that prisons shouldn't have cable TV in them (at least not for the prisoners) and that the facilities should be rather Spartan in nature, but I don't support anything that goes in the direction of torturing prisoners or trying to destroy their physical health.
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#19 Postby Ptarmigan » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:27 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:I still perfer my solution. It would also be much more cost effective. Today, it costs far more than it should to house a convicted felon and the cost of execution is too high. Too many rights are given to criminals. Child killers should have the right to be called by number, given 2 750 calorie meals per day, the right to do 12 horus of hard labor each and every day, and the right to be punished for each and every mistake

perhaps that would serve as a deterrant to others, since execution is not exactly doing this now


I like the idea of chain gangs and hard labor. Kinda like in the movie Cool Hand Luke. Why 12 hours? Why not 16 hours? Personally, I don't see prisons and execution as a deterrant, but as a form of punishment.
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#20 Postby Squarethecircle » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:12 pm

Punishment is futile, as there is no way to undo a crime. However, the threat of it hanging above their heads is much more effective. Thus prisons do not need to punish, only to threaten to do so, and reserve it for the more, how would you say, severe cases. The ones who are not punished will still be miserable, of course, but the ones that are even more miserable are the ones who will be publicized. The threat of something that you cannot even bring yourself to do is often far more effective than the punishment itself. If you are a child or a parent, you should have already learned this.
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