December 19-26, 2007 Idea: La Niña Begins To Bare Its Fangs

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December 19-26, 2007 Idea: La Niña Begins To Bare Its Fangs

#1 Postby donsutherland1 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:37 am

For weeks on end, one has heard the mantra that strong La Niñas mean warmth in the East. Yet, for the first week of December, winter has stood defiant. Northern New England was belted by a substantial snowfall. Afterward, a clipper brought a moderate snowfall to portions of the Mid-Atlantic.

Nevertheless, the latest computer guidance is now hinting at perhaps the start of the long-dreaded warmth of La Niña. In fact, when one rolls ahead the composite Superensemble analogs centered around 12/15, there are hints of a regime change in the East that could be as spectacular as it would be unwelcome among winter weather lovers.

Composite temperature anomalies centered around 12/15:
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Composite temperature anomalies centered around 12/15: Rolled ahead 5 days:
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Composite temperature anomalies centered around 12/15: Rolled ahead 8 days:
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The same holds true if one takes the composite based on the Canadian, ECMWF, 0z GFS, and Superensemble objective analogs centered around 12/15 and rolls them forward 8 days:

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At this time, I do not believe the period as a whole will wind up with such large warm anomalies as might be implied by the 12/23 composite.

In any case, by 12/23 in the composite maps, the warmth in the East had locked in. Consequently, the overwhelming majority of the subsequent 30 days featured above normal temperatures. Is this a hint that the La Niña is ready to seize control of the prevailing patterns? Time will tell.

A look at the teleconnection indices offers little comfort from the idea of an gathering storm of warmth. The latest ensemble guidance indicates that the EPO will likely become positive by the 12/19-26 period and that the PNA could tank. The Arctic Oscillation is forecast to rise to around +1 to +2. Worse, a number of these signals have persisted for several days on the ensembles. That kind of setup would favor ridging in the East and a generally wintry arrangement for the Pacific Northwest where winter has been a rare visitor in recent years.

During the 12/16-31 period during the 1971-2000 base period, an AO of +1 to +2 coupled with a PNA < 0 yielded the following composite temperature anomalies:

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Those anomalies match up reasonably well in terms of the location of cold and warm anomalies with those produced by the objective analog packages cited above.

Finally, the MJO is likely to be shifting from Phase 4 to Phase 5, possibly early in the 12/19-26 timeframe. Phase 5 favors ridging in the East. All said, at this point in time, this convergence of factors leads me to have fairly high confidence that a warmer pattern could predominate in the East during the 12/19-26 period. Such a pattern does not rule out a brief shot of colder air.

During the aforementioned timeframe, although the warmth likely won’t be excessive for the period as a whole, Boston, New York City, and Philadelphia could all see the temperature top out in the lower 50s on one or more days. Washington, DC and Richmond could reach or exceed 60°. A 40° or above reading is possible in such cities as Burlington and Toronto.

The Pacific Northwest down to northern California, Ohio Valley, and Tennessee Valley look to feature above normal precipitation.

Average Regional Temperature Anomalies (12/19-26):
Northeast: Somewhat above normal
Mid-Atlantic: Above normal
Southeast: Above normal
Great Lakes: Somewhat above normal
Northern Plains: Somewhat below normal to near normal
Central Plains: Above normal
Southern Plains: Above normal
Pacific Northwest: Below normal
Southwest/Rest of West Coast: Somewhat below normal to near normal
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#2 Postby Aquawind » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:19 am

Looks good for holiday travelers, shoppers and skiing out west! Unfortunately alot of melting prior to Christmas though. We have been slightly above normal temps and below precip down here for awhile now. Fire Season is going to be a dandy if this continues as forecast.
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#3 Postby jasons2k » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:30 am

I love the warm so I'll take it!

As always, thanks for the analysis Don.
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#4 Postby RL3AO » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:45 am

Stay away La Nina. I want my snow to stay here.
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#5 Postby JonathanBelles » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:28 pm

I already hate these 80's in December. It seems like late spring already.
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#6 Postby Squarethecircle » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:06 pm

The forecast for us in the next few days is about ten degrees above what we've had for the last week, which will be very uncomfortable.
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#7 Postby ohiostorm » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:32 pm

I'd love to take those 80s off your hands. Send them to Pittsburgh.
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Re: December 19-26, 2007 Idea: La Niña Begins To Bare Its Fangs

#8 Postby Stephanie » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:53 pm

I can imagine my bulbs popping up during this time period. :roll:

I don't know. It still feels like we're due for SOMETHING, maybe not this month but January or February. No scientific evidence to go by.

How long do La Nina's normally last?
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Re: December 19-26, 2007 Idea: La Niña Begins To Bare Its Fangs

#9 Postby JonathanBelles » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:10 pm

Stephanie wrote:I can imagine my bulbs popping up during this time period. :roll:

I don't know. It still feels like we're due for SOMETHING, maybe not this month but January or February. No scientific evidence to go by.

How long do La Nina's normally last?

Last forecast was for La Nina until June I think.
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Re: December 19-26, 2007 Idea: La Niña Begins To Bare Its Fangs

#10 Postby JBG » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:20 pm

Stephanie wrote:I can imagine my bulbs popping up during this time period. :roll:

I don't know. It still feels like we're due for SOMETHING, maybe not this month but January or February. No scientific evidence to go by.

How long do La Nina's normally last?

Don could answer this better, but as we slip into "cold phase" PDO shouldn't the La Nina's become longer, stronger and more frequent?
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#11 Postby tomboudreau » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:40 pm

ohiostorm wrote:I'd love to take those 80s off your hands. Send them to Pittsburgh.


Bah on 80's in the winter. Don't need that stuff during the winter. It has its chance to be like that 6 to 8 months out of the year. Bah I say, bah!
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#12 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:03 am

83ºF, and the frost Tuesday didn't seem to kill back the banana plants, so maybe they'll be tasty fruit on the trees next Summer.


I'm ready for Winter to be over, now that we've had a frost. Can't usually say that around here in December, as there is nothing between the North Pole and Houston but barbed wire fence.
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Re: December 19-26, 2007 Idea: La Niña Begins To Bare Its Fangs

#13 Postby Stephanie » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:07 pm

Thanks fact.

I thought that the La Nina/El Nino cycles lasted about a year or so.

I LOVE the warm weather, but 80 degrees just isn't Christmas weather. :wink:
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#14 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:30 pm

La Nina is coming, and no snowman is safe! :froze:
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Re: December 19-26, 2007 Idea: La Niña Begins To Bare Its Fangs

#15 Postby Cumulonimbus » Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:50 pm

I live in Seattle(yes..one of those northwestern members) and cooler/colder weather is needed for awhile here to keep the snow in the mountains and not melting into the rivers. Last Sun/Mon was horrible, especially south and west of Seattle with major flooding and hundreds of people who lost everything. I can't remember a time when so many people had to be rescued by helicopter in this part of the country.

It would be nice to have a white Christmas in Seattle. I can't remember ever seeing one and I have been here a long time(more than 40 years). We had some snow last Saturday and Sunday morning it changed to rain and then the Pineapple Express hit us hard. It was 60 degrees by 2 am Monday morning. Temps reversed back down and it was 24 last night at 8pm. That too is unusual in Seattle to swing so fast from one direction to another and back again. Very light snow fell this morning and it is in the mid 30's now.

It looks cooler and wetter starting next Fri with low snow levels. It appears that interesting weather is ahead. Thanks Don for the analysis.
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Re: December 19-26, 2007 Idea: La Niña Begins To Bare Its Fangs

#16 Postby tropicana » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:15 pm

we could use a nice 40F day here, its been cold and damp and snowy in recent times. But yeah, we got a lot of snow to melt for us to even have a snowless Christmas. I dare La Nina! haha
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Re: December 19-26, 2007 Idea: La Niña Begins To Bare Its Fangs

#17 Postby Stephanie » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:51 pm

Cumulonimbus wrote:I live in Seattle(yes..one of those northwestern members) and cooler/colder weather is needed for awhile here to keep the snow in the mountains and not melting into the rivers. Last Sun/Mon was horrible, especially south and west of Seattle with major flooding and hundreds of people who lost everything. I can't remember a time when so many people had to be rescued by helicopter in this part of the country.



Those images on CNN were horrifying. My prayers are with all of them.
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#18 Postby donsutherland1 » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:33 am

At the risk of being rebuked by the American Psychiatric Association for precipitating a flood of new depression cases, I have to note that there continue to be gathering indications of a pattern change to warmer (a pattern I greatly dislike, for those who are interested in knowing) for the 12/19-26 period. Even worse, there is a hint on the GFS ensembles of a mini-blowtorch for early in that period:

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The ensemble ideas for the EPO have painted an increasingly bleak picture. The NCEP suite is now suggesting that the EPO could rise to much above normal levels:

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Such situations have typically corresponded with warmth across eastern North America. Therefore, it is plausible that the warmer pattern could lock in once it arrives.

If the warmer pattern does, in fact, unfold for the closing 10-14 days of the month, the next big issue could concern how long it might last. Ed Berry's outstanding column suggests that the cold could return mid to late January. He wrote, "...this pattern may shift ~10-20 degrees of longitude farther east during mid-late January bringing possibly intense cold for particularly the northeast states while extending back into the central USA. At that time ridge amplification may occur from just off the USA west coast into Alaska."

The pattern seen on the 360-hour GFS ensembles is reasonably similar to that which was present on December 24, 1979 and December 23, 1982:

GFS Ensembles:
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Composite Analogs cited above:
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In winter 1979-80, a more sustained cold returned around 1/24. In 1982-83, colder weather returned around 1/13 (February 1983 saw a historic blizzard). If those ideas are representative, they would support what Ed Berry has suggested might take place in terms of the timing for the return of colder weather. For now, that's still within the realm of speculation given the enormous timeframe involved.
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Re: December 19-26, 2007 Idea: La Niña Begins To Bare Its Fangs

#19 Postby Lowpressure » Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:21 pm

Don, I have 77 degrees right now in Charlotte, NC!! I will check the official high at the airport, but the record for the date is/was 73! Calling for a high of 48 on Sunday 12/16.

Update- Charlotte Douglas is 76 degrees at 11:52 am!
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#20 Postby JBG » Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:35 pm

donsutherland1 wrote:If the warmer pattern does, in fact, unfold for the closing 10-14 days of the month, the next big issue could concern how long it might last. Ed Berry's outstanding column suggests that the cold could return mid to late January. He wrote, "...this pattern may shift ~10-20 degrees of longitude farther east during mid-late January bringing possibly intense cold for particularly the northeast states while extending back into the central USA. At that time ridge amplification may occur from just off the USA west coast into Alaska."

The pattern seen on the 360-hour GFS ensembles is reasonably similar to that which was present on December 24, 1979 and December 23, 1982:

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In winter 1979-80, a more sustained cold returned around 1/24. In 1982-83, colder weather returned around 1/13 (February 1983 saw a historic blizzard). If those ideas are representative, they would support what Ed Berry has suggested might take place in terms of the timing for the return of colder weather. For now, that's still within the realm of speculation given the enormous timeframe involved.
Weren't both of those analog years sharply different in ENSO and PDO terms, i.e. El Ninos during Warm Phase PDO? Aren't we in La Nina (the premise for this thread) in Cold Phase PDO?
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