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Why do I crave big tropical weather even after seeing damage

#1 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:40 am

The deaths, destruction are horrible and makes me sad. But then there is the
thrill of a storm. But WHY? Why do I want a thrill when I know that there
could be damage?
I don't know I've been searching Psychology sites and can't figure out why???

Found something interesting: as I feel strongly compelled to figure out this
division in perception of a storm:

http://www.randomhouse.com/broadway/cat ... ew=excerpt
Two decades later, Psychology Today did a story on risk taking in which the magazine culled the opinions of top researchers and psychologists and came to similar, if less ebullient, conclusions. The consensus among the scientists was that, among other things, an inclination to take risks may be "hard-wired into the brain . . . and may offer such a thrill that it functions like an addiction." Extroverts are more likely to be risk takers, the experts concluded, a finding that seems logical. But the researchers were divided on what propels the impulse; some argued that it is an internal drive, an urge hardwired into one's personality, while others argued that environmental factors play a large role. Marvin Zuckerman, a pioneering psychologist in the field, labels some people "high sensation seeking," or HSS individuals, whereas other researchers break people down into Type A, Type B, and Type T, for thrill.



http://psychologytoday.com/articles/pto ... 00027.html

Researchers don't yet know precisely how a risk taking impulse arises from within or what role is played by environmental factors, from upbringing to the culture at large.
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#2 Postby Coredesat » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:44 am

It happens too often, not just with you but with a lot of people around here (and on a few other forums, especially one that shall remain nameless).
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Re: Why do I crave big tropical weather even after seeing damage

#3 Postby Category 5 » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:46 am

Core is right, it's not just you. And whether we like it or not, we all have that daring voice in our heads.
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Re: Why do I crave big tropical weather even after seeing damage

#4 Postby Frank2 » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:27 am

As I've heard more than once, we all have that dark side to us, but, at some point we need to decide whether we will continue to embrace it or not - as I've found, this extends to every experience in life, not just weather-related disasters...

One thing I've found is that this desire often diminishes as a person gets older (like children, the elderly usually wanting peace instead of turmoil), but, since none of us know how long our life will be, it's wise to make hay while the sun shines, and, make the right decision while we have a chance...

Perhaps you also think this way because you've never experienced disaster or turmoil first-hand - not just as a wanting visitor to a disaster, but, as an actual victim - as a number of folks here have said, that usually puts an end to the desire...

It's similar to those who like to watch a "good fire" - until their own house burns down...

In the early 1960's (ahem), my late sister and I met a young woman (mid-20's) who worked in a small bakery, but, for an unknown reason, seemed to be the saddest person we ever knew, until one day, when her apron sleeve was raised - and we could see the concentration camp serial number tatooed on her wrist.

We then realized that this poor girl was so traumatized (only 15 years after being released), that it was as if the light in her heart had been extinguished...

I once made the mistake of comparing real life Korean War experiences with that seen on my favorite television program MASH, to the worst person - a surgeon who lived through the real-life experience as a young Doctor at a MASH unit, and, with a great deal of anger in his voice, I can still hear his 3-word reply:

"It was terrible"

I could see similar sadness in the victims of Hurricanes Andrew and Katrina (not to mention those I've known who worked at the World Trade Center site) - in the weeks after Katrina, an attorney from New Orleans who had lost her dog, home and workplace was brought to our office, in order for her to use a computer, and, seemed all right for a day or two, until the entire experience seemed to catch up with her, and began crying at her desk...

All of the above is something to think about the next time you have the desire for disaster - true peace is ALWAYS better...
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#5 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:37 am

thanks guys. Peace is definitely much better than damage and pain.
I will try hard to engrave that into my perspective.
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#6 Postby Coredesat » Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:30 pm

Frank2 wrote:As I've heard more than once, we all have that dark side to us, but, at some point we need to decide whether we will continue to embrace it or not - as I've found, this extends to every experience in life, not just weather-related disasters...

One thing I've found is that this desire often diminishes as a person gets older (like children, the elderly usually wanting peace instead of turmoil), but, since none of us know how long our life will be, it's wise to make hay while the sun shines, and, make the right decision while we have a chance...

Perhaps you also think this way because you've never experienced disaster or turmoil first-hand - not just as a wanting visitor to a disaster, but, as an actual victim - as a number of folks here have said, that usually puts an end to the desire...

It's similar to those who like to watch a "good fire" - until their own house burns down...

In the early 1960's (ahem), my late sister and I met a young woman (mid-20's) who worked in a small bakery, but, for an unknown reason, seemed to be the saddest person we ever knew, until one day, when her apron sleeve was raised - and we could see the concentration camp serial number tatooed on her wrist.

We then realized that this poor girl was so traumatized (only 15 years after being released), that it was as if the light in her heart had been extinguished...

I once made the mistake of comparing real life Korean War experiences with that seen on my favorite television program MASH, to the worst person - a surgeon who lived through the real-life experience as a young Doctor at a MASH unit, and, with a great deal of anger in his voice, I can still hear his 3-word reply:

"It was terrible"

I could see similar sadness in the victims of Hurricanes Andrew and Katrina (not to mention those I've known who worked at the World Trade Center site) - in the weeks after Katrina, an attorney from New Orleans who had lost her dog, home and workplace was brought to our office, in order for her to use a computer, and, seemed all right for a day or two, until the entire experience seemed to catch up with her, and began crying at her desk...

All of the above is something to think about the next time you have the desire for disaster - true peace is ALWAYS better...


This is an excellent post, and I think everyone should read it before they get the urge to wishcast storms, especially those people who wish for these storms even though they have lived through them before.

BillieJeanneinMS from the Storm2k chat room is a good example of this. She claimed to have lived through several destructive hurricanes, and got extremely cranky and disappointed whenever she found out a storm was not headed her way, as if she wanted to experience death and destruction again.

We have to ask ourselves: what is the true reason we track tropical cyclones? Is it because we get a sick or guilty pleasure from watching people get hit by them, and don't want to admit it? Or is it because we want people to be safe? Or is it a combination of both? I've seen a lot of the third answer around here.
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#7 Postby Category 5 » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:50 pm

Frank2 wrote:As I've heard more than once, we all have that dark side to us, but, at some point we need to decide whether we will continue to embrace it or not - as I've found, this extends to every experience in life, not just weather-related disasters...

One thing I've found is that this desire often diminishes as a person gets older (like children, the elderly usually wanting peace instead of turmoil), but, since none of us know how long our life will be, it's wise to make hay while the sun shines, and, make the right decision while we have a chance...

Perhaps you also think this way because you've never experienced disaster or turmoil first-hand - not just as a wanting visitor to a disaster, but, as an actual victim - as a number of folks here have said, that usually puts an end to the desire...

It's similar to those who like to watch a "good fire" - until their own house burns down...

In the early 1960's (ahem), my late sister and I met a young woman (mid-20's) who worked in a small bakery, but, for an unknown reason, seemed to be the saddest person we ever knew, until one day, when her apron sleeve was raised - and we could see the concentration camp serial number tatooed on her wrist.

We then realized that this poor girl was so traumatized (only 15 years after being released), that it was as if the light in her heart had been extinguished...

I once made the mistake of comparing real life Korean War experiences with that seen on my favorite television program MASH, to the worst person - a surgeon who lived through the real-life experience as a young Doctor at a MASH unit, and, with a great deal of anger in his voice, I can still hear his 3-word reply:

"It was terrible"

I could see similar sadness in the victims of Hurricanes Andrew and Katrina (not to mention those I've known who worked at the World Trade Center site) - in the weeks after Katrina, an attorney from New Orleans who had lost her dog, home and workplace was brought to our office, in order for her to use a computer, and, seemed all right for a day or two, until the entire experience seemed to catch up with her, and began crying at her desk...

All of the above is something to think about the next time you have the desire for disaster - true peace is ALWAYS better...


This is one of the most excellent, well thought out posts I've ever read.
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Re: Why do I crave big tropical weather even after seeing damage

#8 Postby jinftl » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:13 pm

Maybe what we seek is the experience of storm conditions...the sheer power of nature...watching what we have been tracking on satellite and radar unfold before our very eyes. There is a rush of adrenaline that is the very essence of 'being alive'..similar to the rush we get from extreme sports, thrill rides, and even racing cars.

The aftermath of the storm is very different than the adrenaline-producing conditions during the storm. There is nothing thrilling, exciting, or heart-pounding about the slow recovery from a storm.
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Re: Why do I crave big tropical weather even after seeing damage

#9 Postby flashflood » Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:52 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:The deaths, destruction are horrible and makes me sad. But then there is the
thrill of a storm. But WHY? Why do I want a thrill when I know that there
could be damage?
I don't know I've been searching Psychology sites and can't figure out why???

Found something interesting: as I feel strongly compelled to figure out this
division in perception of a storm:



Here are a few ways you could look at it. Although it may not be directly related, the events are somewhat similar.

My firend really likes it when it rains. So, is he bad for wanting it to rain although it causes slippery roadways, which leads to more accidents and fatalities?

Dreaming of a "white" Christmas? You may want to dream of something else after 8 people died while shoveling Christmas snows in Ohio a few years ago.

Have you felt excited about getting or driving a new car? Well, just think about this. In 2005, the financial cost of car crashes is more than "230 Billion dollars. 2.9 million people were injured and 42,636 people killed". After reading that stat, how could anyone feel excited about getting a new car.



Anyone can go on and feel guilty about not feeling guilty for liking something, it's really no big deal to me. I think life is too short to worry about issues like that as long as your not hurting anyone.
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Re: Why do I crave big tropical weather even after seeing damage

#10 Postby Frank2 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:36 pm

From what I've learned in life, it's the person's intent that matters - a person can love to watch the glow of a fireplace, but, another can love to watch a building burn to the ground...

That is similar to the many (like myself) who like a rainy day, versus the desire for a flash flood to wash away a community...

Still, it is not good to nurture the bad desires - lest we end up with a harvest of cacti - since they originate from the sinful side of our human nature...
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Re: Why do I crave big tropical weather even after seeing damage

#11 Postby Ixolib » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:52 pm

The older you get - and the more responsibilities you take on in terms of family, job, and real property - the less you will find yourself desiring a storm. Plus, seeing one on radar and satellite photos/video is one thing. Living through and experiencing one first hand (especially one the likes of Katrina) - and its aftermath - is an entirely different subject. The two cannot, repeat cannot, compare with one another......
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#12 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:32 pm

Ixolib wrote:The older you get - and the more responsibilities you take on in terms of family, job, and real property - the less you will find yourself desiring a storm. Plus, seeing one on radar and satellite photos/video is one thing. Living through and experiencing one first hand (especially one the likes of Katrina) - and its aftermath - is an entirely different subject. The two cannot, repeat cannot, compare with one another......


The aftermath is always much worse than the actual storm itself (unless you do something dumb like ride out a major hurricane in a mobile home). Except for flood disasters like Katrina, indirect deaths often outnumber direct deaths with US hurricanes these days. Also going without power and water for days or weeks on end is extremely difficult.
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#13 Postby BocaGirl » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:24 am

TampaBay, you are young...only 19, I believe. Perhaps you will never be able to change your fascination and desire for storms. However, why not channel that fascination into something productive.

I can tell you from long experience that sitting in front of the computer is lonely. Online friends, even the best online friends, who communicate with typed words and phrases are not the same thing as real people who communicate with voices and faces in person. So what I suggest is to balance your online experience by joining a local group like CERT or the Red Cross. These volunteer organizations are always looking for new members and would love to have someone who knows about the weather. Someone like YOU.

If and when a storm hits your area, you will be part of the solution, firsthand. As a trained first responder, you will experience the storm "up close and personal" while helping people who really need your assistance.

TampaBay, I know that you have some issues that you are trying to work out. I commend you for trying to address them. And please understand, I'm not saying that you should give up all online contacts. I'm not! I'm just thinking you might do well to broaden your scope with some like minded people in your area.

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#14 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:40 pm

thank you bocagirl! I am volunteering with a local hospital 8-)
I have been and am there with patients helping out as much as I
can. I was there from 9am to 6 pm today, and it was awesome getting
to help with the medical equipment!
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#15 Postby Frank2 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:02 am

I agree with BocaGirl - sometimes, on another web site, I'll post a comment to a message that hasn't been responded to for many weeks, and, it's a pretty empty feeling to know that no one is listening (at least in this world)...

In the end, the "human element" cannot compare with the computer...

I was a hospital volunteer for many years, and, in some way, it always filled my heart's needs...

I'm very happy for you, Tampa Bay - it sounds like you are enjoying the experience...
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#16 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:48 pm

Thanks Frank you are Awesome!!!! :ggreen:
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#17 Postby boca » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:29 am

Tampa Bay I commend you too. I also like the forces of tropical weather before Wilma. After Wilma after seeing what it did I pray that they change course. I do wishcast a lot for depressions and tropical storms due to their large amounts of rainfall but that's where it stops. I have friends off this board that are not weather crazed like me so it keeps me balanced, also I made some good friends out of the gatherings we have during hurricane season. Real people from S2K and its great people like them that keep me here. I been adicted to this forum for 4 years now but I spend roughly about an hour each day on the forum keeping up with hurricane season and winter weather up in the NE since I was originally from NJ. You might have some issues but they can be delt with easily.
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#18 Postby Category 5 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:21 pm

boca wrote:I was originally from NJ.


Seriously? Where in NJ?
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#19 Postby boca » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:41 pm

I used to live in Middlesex County in Kendall Park. I have cousins that live in Howell and Colonia, NJ. Being in South Florida I do miss the change of seasons, but I get up their as much as possible. I read the Mount Holly discussions as much as the Miami discussions. When I come up there I will look you up.
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#20 Postby Dionne » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:08 am

In my younger days.....I definitely took risks.....foolish risks. Skiing out of bounds avalanche prone ravines. 29 months as a military firefighter. As we age our risk taking changes. I would not risk any storm if given the option. But I would take on a marginally profitable contract.

Someone mentioned volunteering. I am a volunteer. It is more rewarding than you can possibly imagine.
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